The whole thing about "perfect place to jump in" with ME3 always confused me, it simply cannot be the perfect place because there are two previous games that tell the story of the character and the universe. Its like saying Matrix 3 is the perfect place to start watching it.
Next game however, well it could be, if they resolve the issues left from ME3 right at the start, for example canonizing one ending. Or create some kind of blended ending.
As far as I am concerned, people who were terrified about the "ME3 being a great place to start the series" marketing stuff were exaggerating. It maintained the same themes and context as the previous games. Even Vega, who was supposedly there to guide new players into the universe was pretty well done and didn't really stick out compared to other characters.
Does anyone remember the "awesome button" drama from ME3's marketing?
Disagree. Vega worked when he was unobtrusive and utterly optional, but I found him very distracting and a poor character in the first 1/3 of the game.
The Dev basically said that there won't be any save import, like with DAI, and Gamble then stated that the choices that we've made matters for them, so I'm pretty sure that a system like DA : Keep will be available for the next Mass Effect.
I've went from 25% sure to 75% sure.
Exact percentages.
I found this to be interesting.
@SomeStrangeFX @bioware @masseffect @GambleMike The next ME is a great place to jump into the series. No need to worry about saves.
No canon ending and no need to worry about saves? Hmmmm...
Tell me another (very iffy) story about The Shepard.
No canon ending and no need to worry about saves? Hmmmm...
DAI didn't needed a save file either so...
Yep......
It said that ME4 will have the "main pillars" of the original trilogy, but it only said gameplay and storytelling. I thought the main and strongest pillar were the supporting characters?
The Dev basically said that there won't be any save import, like with DAI, and Gamble then stated that the choices that we've made matters for them, so I'm pretty sure that a system like DA : Keep will be available for the next Mass Effect.
It only makes sense. The keep was a great idea even if it wasn't handled 100% perfectly. Now that they have experience they could make a good one for Mass Effect.
The whole thing about "perfect place to jump in" with ME3 always confused me, it simply cannot be the perfect place because there are two previous games that tell the story of the character and the universe. Its like saying Matrix 3 is the perfect place to start watching it.
Next game however, well it could be, if they resolve the issues left from ME3 right at the start, for example canonizing one ending. Or create some kind of blended ending.
Unless the devs are planning a fresh "RESTART OR RE-BOOT" then yes it is a the perfect place for CALL OF DUTY PLAYERS TO START BECAUSE E.A.
It only makes sense. The keep was a great idea even if it wasn't handled 100% perfectly. Now that they have experience they could make a good one for Mass Effect.
I think a Keep-like service is totally possible (as in, they could built it and integrate it into the next game) but it's not certain at this point whether it'll be necessary.
If they're going out of their way to avoid having to deal with the endings, MEN could be so far removed from Shepard's trilogy (in time, space or both) that there's no point carrying over choices because nothing would be relevant.
DA:I reflects player choices by virtue of being set on the same continent (even in the same countries) only a few years after the other two games, but I expect MEN's setting and story will be doing something completely different to the first three games, considering how much they're talking about new stuff.
I think a Keep-like service is totally possible (as in, they could built it and integrate it into the next game) but it's not certain at this point whether it'll be necessary.
If they're going out of their way to avoid having to deal with the endings, MEN could be so far removed from Shepard's trilogy (in time, space or both) that there's no point carrying over choices because nothing would be relevant.
DA:I reflects player choices by virtue of being set on the same continent (even in the same countries) only a few years after the other two games, but I expect MEN's setting and story will be doing something completely different to the first three games, considering how much they're talking about new stuff.
That is a good point. Looking forward to more info down the line to see just things turn out.
The Dev basically said that there won't be any save import, like with DAI, and Gamble then stated that the choices that we've made matters for them, so I'm pretty sure that a system like DA : Keep will be available for the next Mass Effect.
I'd strongly urge people not to read too much into Gamble's tweet. He's a master of vagueness to put it mildly. All we know for sure is that we can safely delete our ME3 save files.
It said that ME4 will have the "main pillars" of the original trilogy, but it only said gameplay and storytelling. I thought the main and strongest pillar were the supporting characters?
I don't think that the side characters are the main pillars of the universe as a whole. The side characters changed, some were added, others became less important throughout the trilogy.
I don't think that the side characters are the main pillars of the universe as a whole. The side characters changed, some were added, others became less important throughout the trilogy.
True. They were certainly the biggest pillar holding up ME2 though. Through the side characters and their missions, we got to know the ME universe a lot better.
The whole thing about "perfect place to jump in" with ME3 always confused me, it simply cannot be the perfect place because there are two previous games that tell the story of the character and the universe. Its like saying Matrix 3 is the perfect place to start watching it.
Next game however, well it could be, if they resolve the issues left from ME3 right at the start, for example canonizing one ending. Or create some kind of blended ending.
PR speak, pure and simple. They aren't going to say "look, we'll try to be accommodating where we can, but if you're asking if the 3rd part of a trilogy is a good place to start you're a friggin idiot", and I can't really blame them I guess. But yeah, to be honest I can't shake the urge to roll my eyes when I hear that "perfect place" line.
Like you said though, this time around it might actually be true.
True. They were certainly the biggest pillar holding up ME2 though. Through the side characters and their missions, we got to know the ME universe a lot better.
Sure. Characters are certainly one of the most important aspect of the story, and probably BioWare's strongest point.
My objection to them being regarded as pillars is the fact that the specific characters are not constant, and if done right, can be replacable. ME2 added a ton of new characters and minimized the importance of certain ME1 ones. It also "upgaded" some other old characters. A pillar imho, best describes something rigid and irreplaceable, which doesn't fit the role of characters throughout the trilogy.
Sure. Characters are certainly one of the most important aspect of the story, and probably BioWare's strongest point.
My objection to them being regarded as pillars is the fact that the specific characters are not constant, and if done right, can be replacable. ME2 added a ton of new characters and minimized the importance of certain ME1 ones. It also "upgaded" some other old characters. A pillar imho, best describes something rigid and irreplaceable, which doesn't fit the role of characters throughout the trilogy.
Not a specific set of characters, no, but one could argue that the role of squadmates in general and other supporting characters does fit such a role in the trilogy.
Was GDC a bust for new ME info?
Yeah, nothing. Didn't get Battlefront news either.
I'd strongly urge people not to read too much into Gamble's tweet. He's a master of vagueness to put it mildly. All we know for sure is that we can safely delete our ME3 save files.
All one of them? I'm not putting my 40+ other Shepards through that mess.
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