Are you talking about the first reveal of game play footage or the release of game itself?
Game release. Footage could appear at any time. If the game is released later I would be quite surprised, after all ME3 came out in march 2012 so to march 2016 it would be 4 years development time, or 3 years and 6 months if they all took a vacation.
I'd have to disagree with your lower-bounds release Kata. This year is a no-go based on how little we still know going into E3 2015 (even though it's still months away), and even then a March release next year sounds kind of outlandish. I'll admit I haven't followed ME releases in the past, so maybe they could, but I'd doubt it.
E3 will most likely give us our first glimpse into the story for ME:N, I'd be surprised if we get any story related news before then.
Game release. Footage could appear at any time. If the game is released later I would be quite surprised, after all ME3 came out in march 2012 so to march 2016 it would be 4 years development time, or 3 years and 6 months if they all took a vacation.
I'll be very surprised if we see the game this year. I thought that might be likely this time last year, but the near lack of info since then has forced me to revise that prediction.
There's a good chance we could get our hands on the game in March next year though. End of 2016 at the latest.
I'd have to disagree with your lower-bounds release Kata. This year is a no-go based on how little we still know going into E3 2015 (even though it's still months away), and even then a March release next year sounds kind of outlandish. I'll admit I haven't followed ME releases in the past, so maybe they could, but I'd doubt it.
I would be also quite surprised if they released it this year but it could happen. After all they could be way further into the game dev cycle than we think but keeping it all close to the chest because they do not want something that happened during the ME3 cycle(the dark energy plot got leaked, and i have to say I am glad it didnt make it into the game, it was bad) to happen again.
March 2016 is I think the most probable one, not just because its 4 years since the ME3 release but also because if the dev time is prolonged its easier for the game to get stuck in development hell.
It also might be a summer 2016 release but I doubt it. The latest I could see it getting released is holidays 2016.
they do not want something that happened during the ME3 cycle(the dark energy plot got leaked, and i have to say I am glad it didnt make it into the game, it was bad) to happen again.
Where do people keep getting this idea from? It's simply not accurate. Nothing was rewritten or changed because of a leak during development.
There was never a dark energy plot written for ME3. The only time it's ever been mentioned was in an interview by Drew Karpyshyn, who talked about ideas they'd thrown around for ways to end the series. He left Bioware before ME2 shipped.
The "leaked" plot was identical to the one in the final game, to the point that the whole Starkid conversation was there, line for line. They changed nothing between September 2011 and the release date in March 2012.
Where do people keep getting this idea from? It's simply not accurate. Nothing was rewritten or changed because of a leak during development.
There was never a dark energy plot written for ME3. The only time it's ever been mentioned was in an interview by Drew Karpyshyn, who talked about ideas they'd thrown around for ways to end the series. He left Bioware before ME2 shipped.
The "leaked" plot was identical to the one in the final game, to the point that the whole Starkid conversation was there, line for line. They changed nothing between September 2011 and the release date in March 2012.
Well if it wasnt the case, my bad. I wasnt around for the thing back then and it seems the idea comes from the interview, the early reports of the leaked plot and some other random bits of gaming news reports around the net which people talked about after the fact.
Anyway the point still stands, because the way ME3 ended was quite controversial I think they are trying to keep as much info in house as possible to prevent another shitstorm from hitting the fan in case what they are doing is disliked by some people. After all if they reveal some kind of details which can be taken the wrong way and be detrimental to the sales of the game once it is released.
After all they could be way further into the game dev cycle than we think but keeping it all close to the chest
And given the belated reaction that a ton of people here had to the PAX demo of DAI (It's completely different!!!!1... except not really), I wouldn't be at all surprised if that were the case.
And given the belated reaction that a ton of people here had to the PAX demo of DAI (It's completely different!!!!1... except not really), I wouldn't be at all surprised if that were the case.
Yeah but it makes me paranoid(well more than usual anyway) that they are still keeping their silence. Then again that photo about them doing motion capture work means that they still have quite a way to go.
Yeah but it makes me paranoid(well more than usual anyway) that they are still keeping their silence. Then again that photo about them doing motion capture work means that they still have quite a way to go.
It means nothing of the sort. Why would you think that motion capture is restricted to the beginning of development?
Dunno at which point of developement motion capturing is usually done, but at least they ARE working on ME4, right?
It means nothing of the sort. Why would you think that motion capture is restricted to the beginning of development?
Didnt say "beginning" just said a lot of things to do still. Getting all the voice-work probably, getting all the motion capture to do what they need it to in game engine, animating everything properly in cutscenes. A lot of coding. A lot of bugfixing. Getting gameplay and cutscenes to work properly together.
I say Holiday 2016 as our best case scenario and March 2017 as our worse case scenario for the release.
E3 2015 will focus on the barebones introduction to ME4 with some follow up work at PAX Prime and Gamescom. The barebones introductions would be regarding the mako/exploration, VERY basic idea of where the story is heading and some new features.
E3 2016 will role out the major marketing push for the release with a more indepth trailer and many gameplay videos as well as more information about the plot, characters, and locations. Perhaps this is when the multiplayer component will be revealed and talked about. If delayed to Spring 2017, then perhaps GamesCom or even PAX Prime could have some meaty ME4 showings.
Either way, ME4 WILL NOT release this year nor will it release before fall 2016.
I say Holiday 2016 as our best case scenario and March 2017 as our worse case scenario for the release.
E3 2015 will focus on the barebones introduction to ME4 with some follow up work at PAX Prime and Gamescom. The barebones introductions would be regarding the mako/exploration, VERY basic idea of where the story is heading and some new features.
E3 2016 will role out the major marketing push for the release with a more indepth trailer and many gameplay videos as well as more information about the plot, characters, and locations. Perhaps this is when the multiplayer component will be revealed and talked about. If delayed to Spring 2017, then perhaps GamesCom or even PAX Prime could have some meaty ME4 showings.
Either way, ME4 WILL NOT release this year nor will it release before fall 2016.
I disagree, holiday 2016 is way too far. And if the game is still in development by 2017 then its dead. Also I think they are going to keep as many details secret for as long as they can get away with it before the release to the reviewers.
I remember a few years ago when DAI was still in dev and there weren't even a video out about it that I said that its going to come out in holiday 2014 because it was the perfect time to release it both on the new consoles and pc and the old ones. Of course I have absolutely no proof of that and for all you know I am just lying to prove my point.
Doesn't matter. ME4 was handed over to a new team, the game development started quite probably a few months at most after ME3 release. Lets say it was middle of 2012. That gives us 3 years so far. DA2 was released in March 2011 and DAI was released in November 2014. That is roughly 3.5 years. Considering they had to learn how to work with the new engine.
Now they have that experience, and while the new team still needs time to learn and get into the "groove" getting the game done in 3.5 years would be plenty of time. Or if more than that its still going to be released before summer 2016. It makes too much sense for them to do that. More than 4 years and people start to forget about the game, not us, people who post on these forums and debate issues and get into arguments over what is basically just fiction but the people who played the game once and were done with it. Because no matter how much we think we are important to the game devs their marketing department always says to them that they have to make a game that has the "wow" factor to get those people to buy it. People who enjoy the game but do not get even a quarter as invested in it as we do.
Games like Elder Scrolls and GTA can afford to have long development cycles because they are massively popular but Mass Effect while is quite loved is not one of those games. ME3 sold around 1.2 million copies in the release month compared to 6 million copies of GTA4 and 11 million of GTA5 in their first week.
Games like that cannot afford to coast on the sidelines for that long.
And given the belated reaction that a ton of people here had to the PAX demo of DAI (It's completely different!!!!1... except not really), I wouldn't be at all surprised if that were the case.
It was significantly different. The content shown was a step up from BioWare's previous games and what we actually got in DA3.
But yeah it might be a good idea to not have what was likely a vertical slice of what you want to achieve out in public if there is concern you might be unable to implement it as was ultimately the case with DA3. Much less messy that way.
EA will schedule it for Q4 2016 at the latest. Even if there are delays and the game doesn't actually come out till later I don't believe they would let the very first planned release date be set for Q1 2017.
Either way, ME4 WILL NOT release this year nor will it release before fall 2016.
I agree but it's possible that the first release date to be announced will be Q1 2016
I could see me4 come out next year if they release Shepards trilogy on current gen this year.
EA will schedule it for Q4 2016 at the latest. Even if there are delays and the game doesn't actually come out till later I don't believe they would let the very first planned release date be set for Q1 2017.
I agree but it's possible that the first release date to be announced will be Q1 2016
I'm still gonna call Q1 2016. I also predict we will get a E3 gameplay video in June.
They didn't start working on ME:N until sometime in April 2013, about a month after the Citadel DLC was released according to Jos.
Dont forget about their new IP either.. Theres alot happening in Bioware at the moment and the 2015 E3 is going to be a big year for them.
I'm still gonna call Q1 2016. I also predict we will get a E3 gameplay video in June.
They didn't start working on ME:N until sometime in April 2013, about a month after the Citadel DLC was released according to Jos.
Dont forget about their new IP either.. Theres alot happening in Bioware at the moment and the 2015 E3 is going to be a big year for them.
Yeah March-June 2016 is the most likely time for the release. And considering the DLC was made with the old team(at least I think it was) and the next game was handed over to the new team I would think that while full blown development of ME4 did start after the Citadel DLC there were probably a lot of preliminary work going on.
They didn't start working on ME:N until sometime in April 2013, about a month after the Citadel DLC was released according to Jos.
It was in pre-production in September 2012.
Bioware Montreal might've been working on it from June 2012, according to some really old tweets.
The question is will the game launch later this year, or in 2016.
It'd be more realistic to discuss whether the release will be in 2016 or 2017.
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