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[Steppenwolf]

Yeah, like saying our choices would affect future games but then turn around and throw the entire Shepard Trilogy away.

They never even said there would be more Mass Effect games until well after ME3 was already out so this isn't true at all.

We can just hope that they learn from the problems and criticisms of DA3 (their first "big" game) and do a better job creating worthwhile content in ME4.

..."big" games are what put BioWare on the map. Inquisition is just the first time they've done it in a long time.

[wolfhowwl]

Certainly. It's just unfortunate that the ME team couldn't have learned from DA:I's mistakes before they left the drawing board.

While open world is a recent trend among the more recent AAAs, I'm not terribly surprised ME4 decided to expand. Exploration, if anything, is a return to form for Mass Effect and a completely reasonable move for a game about exploring a galaxy. I just wish BioWare could have been a bit more original in their execution.

But I'm jumping the gun on my criticisms. These claims, however likely, have yet to be confirmed.

Some of the stuff I've seen about DA3 like with the Keeps seems like they originally had a much more ambitious vision for the game but then likely the realities of their budget, release dates, last-gen constraints, and dealing with the engine took their toll. ME4 will have the advantage of experience with their engine, no-last gen consoles, and probably a higher budget.
 
Also bluntly grindy bullshit is more tolerable when your combat is fun and ME3 demolishes Dragon Age in that regard.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

This is the first I've ever heard that future games would be affected by our choices. Do you have a source for that?

http://www.vg247.com...may-carry-over/

[Steppenwolf]

Also bluntly grindy bullshit is more tolerable when your combat is fun and ME3 demolishes Dragon Age in that regard.

I find the combat in Inquisition to be on par with ME3. They're very different, but playing a mage or rogue at high levels in really enjoyable to me.

[Steppenwolf]

http://www.vg247.com...may-carry-over/

Thanks for proving yourself wrong, I guess(?).

[wolfhowwl]

http://www.vg247.com...may-carry-over/

ayy lmao

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Thanks for proving yourself wrong, I guess(?).

How is showing a Bioware employee saying our choices will cross over before this leak showing they won't be proving myself wrong? 

[RoboticWater]

Some of the stuff I've seen about DA3 like with the Keeps seems like they originally had a much more ambitious vision for the game but then likely the realities of their budget, release dates, last-gen constraints, and dealing with the engine took their toll. ME4 will have the advantage of experience with their engine, no-last gen consoles, and probably a higher budget.
 
Also bluntly grindy bullshit is more tolerable when your combat is fun and ME3 demolishes Dragon Age in that regard.

I do hope you're right. The whole 100s of planets has me worried though. Scope issues brought down DA:I and may very well do the same to ME4.

[MrFob]

http://www.vg247.com...may-carry-over/

 
Well:
a) The interview on that page is hardly what I'd call a commitment (using the word "may" and all).
b ) If the rumors are true, the scenario would still very much allow for some limited save import, where people may reference events of the trilogy in ME:N. This would actually be fairly close the the WW1/2 analogy that was used there.
c) All of this is just rumors for now. Let's not judge the game before we know what's actually going on.

[JeffZero]

I do hope you're right. The whole 100s of planets has me worried though. Scope issues brought down DA:I and may very well do the same to ME4.

 

I share your trepidation, Commander Data.

[Steppenwolf]

How is showing a Bioware employee saying our choices will cross over before this leak showing they won't be proving myself wrong?

You didn't show that, because no BioWare employee has said that. "May" is not a promise or a commitment and we've known since ME1 that Shepard's story was going to be a trilogy.

[Dr. rotinaj]

I do hope you're right. The whole 100s of planets has me worried though. Scope issues brought down DA:I and may very well do the same to ME4.

 

This, 100 times this. I believe DAI is a good game but the focus on exploring big environments created a game where the excellent parts were separated hours apart by tons of non-cutscene quests with minimal story content. As a result, the good parts felt too short-lived. I'm worried about this style being adopted by NME because Bioware kept touting DAI as the "beginning of next generation Bioware RPGs." Hopefully we'll see some actual news at E3 so we can see where this game is going.

[The Elder King]

I think Exploration Will be a Major Focus in The next game Regardless or the leak. What They Said so far, plus what DR.rotinaj said About their statement about DAI heavily suggested it. Even if the leak will he proven To be false exploration will be a Major point in the game.
I Just hope they learnt from DAI And improve From it.

[Phaedon]

And let's not get started on everything they said about Mass Effect 3.

Actually, let's.

With the exception of the ending, and Casey Hudson denying Multiplayer for some time, what they told us was pretty much what we got.

The ME3-era KFT google docs are alive and well.

[Vazgen]

Actually, let's.

With the exception of the ending, and Casey Hudson denying Multiplayer for some time, what they told us was pretty much what we got.

The ME3-era KFT google docs are alive and well.

Uhm, I hate to do this, but this video:

[The Elder King]

Actually, let's.With the exception of the ending, and Casey Hudson denying Multiplayer for some time, what they told us was pretty much what we got.The ME3-era KFT google docs are alive and well.

Well, they said a lot of times That the level of autodialogue Would be on the Same level of ME2, even After the demo. Which wasn't true.

[Phaedon]

The example is dishonest, but the presented feature is not.

We actually had made a digested version of the old KFT thread in the form of a video:



I apologize for the aspect ratio, YouTube screwed it up automatically over the years.

There are 80 features and DPs or so (not counting the tabs that had multiple ones), with only 3 which imho, don't hold up to scrutiny. You couldn't customize the camo of weapons (not directly at least, indirect color change was possible), the environments didn't really change all the time, and finally, the whole endings promise was completely dishonest. "Multiple ways to retake Earth" and all that.

I would consider a ~95.25% reliability rate pretty good.

[Phaedon]

Well, they said a lot of times That the level of autodialogue Would be on the Same level of ME2, even After the demo. Which wasn't true.

Alright, source?

[chris2365]

Actually, let's.

With the exception of the ending, and Casey Hudson denying Multiplayer for some time, what they told us was pretty much what we got.

The ME3-era KFT google docs are alive and well.

I am sure there was more than that. Maybe not to the extent some people claim, but they definitely overhyped and overpromised more compared to ME1 and ME2.

One quote I remember was about a month before release. Mac Walters did an interview and claimed that the Rachni were going to have a big role in ME3, and especially in the final battle.

Yeah

[The Elder King]

Alright, source?

I can't find it. I saw multiple thread's from Feb 2012 about the demo and the concerns of dialogue, and Many mentions Chris Priestly saying that dialogues Were cut down from the demo, and that Most dialogues would Have the three choices and Not just two, But Nobody posted a link. I'm not going to search every pages of every thread. I Can link the discussions though.

[dreamgazer]

Alright, source?

 

They never said that directly, far as I recall, but they (Weekes, I believe) did address the negative feelings towards auto-dialogue and that they'd take that feedback into consideration. Here's hoping they look at Inquisition as the right way to go with dialogue agency (with more cinematic camerawork). 

[AresKeith]

They never said that directly, far as I recall, but they (Weekes, I believe) did address the negative feelings towards auto-dialogue and that they'd take that feedback into consideration. Here's hoping they look at Inquisition as the right way to go with dialogue agency (with more cinematic camerawork). 

 

And less neutral sound dialogue

[The Elder King]

I do hope they improve from DAI, but Between the Former and ME3 I'll pick DAI's dialogue system everytime.
Though I think it'd a better Approach to expect ME3 system For MEN

[NM_Che56]

"Explore 100s of solar systems (over 4x size of Mass Effect 3) collecting resources, developing your ship, crew, and arsenal, while engaging in diplomacy in order to set up colonies, while discovering the mystery behind the Remnants and racing to secure their technology."

 

"100s of surfaces to explore, for discovering places to colonise, and alien vaults/outputs to conque"

 

The degree of exploration could vary between sending out ships/probes to going by foot.  Feasibly, sending mercs to explore the surface on your behalf would count. LOL

[Steppenwolf]

Actually, let's.

With the exception of the ending, and Casey Hudson denying Multiplayer for some time, what they told us was pretty much what we got.

The ME3-era KFT google docs are alive and well.

Ah, so if we just ignore all the things they lied about then they didn't lie at all?

I would consider a ~95.25% reliability rate pretty good.

Even if I accepted your exceptionally fuzzy math, which I don't, would you trust your spouse/significant other if s/he only told you the truth 95% of the time but lied through her teeth about important things the rest of the time?