[Andromeda video]
Beautiful. Don't know what else to say. I've watched it 4 times now.
It's a shame not to live long enough to see the unimaginable, out there.
I know what you mean. But on the other hand, at least we get these magnificent glimpses and we can let our minds wander and dream 
that's better than living in the Dark Ages, at least.
so i just find out about this "new shinobi leak". My god someone is too afraid to go back to and face his own failures. New Galaxy, really? It's understandable that new studio doesn't want to take responibility for ME3 ending fiasco but this? Let's just say it is not a creative way to deal with the problems of post me3 universe, it's just a cheap way to put them under the carpet.
It could work if the game is tied to the Milkyway and the player is able to travel between the two galaxies relatively freely. Maybe a very ancient and abandoned intergalactic mass effect relay is found. Visiting a new galaxy would be cool, so long as it doesn't mean we have to abandon the MW forever.
First of all, its not a theory. It's not even a hypothesis, really. Sorry, pet peeve of mine is people not knowing what these words mean. Secondly, you missed the point entirely. The point is, it only takes ONE species achieving this just once to completely colonize the entire galaxy in a cosmic blink of an eye. That's what is so impressive by it, and that's why the Fermi Paradox still stands as a legit question. If you don't come away from it absolutely awed by how comparatively quick a species can colonize a galaxy with sublight travel, then you dont understand what Fermi was talking about.And that's all well and good but it's little more than a theory, it also assumes other species would even want to travel to the stars. For an example of what i mean, the Ancient greeks came close to inventing the steam engine http://en.wikipedia....f_Alexandria ina time when the great library of alexandria was still standing. You can imagine what the world would like now if they had. Technology isn't something that you just put your mind to and presto, it's about investing time and resources in the right places, in the right moment and if the time and resources aren't invested? You don't invent the steam engine for another 2000 years or even at all. That's not even taking into account that they might simply not be interested, iirc the only reason we did it was because two super powers were having d*ck swinging competition.
No, sorry. I meant "twice the size and the age of", but the lack of "the" made the sentence suggest something else.Andromeda is no longer twice the size of the Milky Way, since it's been discovered that the Milky Way is about 50,000 light years bigger than previously estimated.
Also, twice the age of the Milky Way? Are you really suggesting the Andromeda Galaxy is 24 billion years old?
What the hell is all this "ark theory" BS ?
Like the rest of ME is highly realistic..
I'm just looking for a good game, not a Carl Sagan documentary... 
Again, if WE wanted to do it, which we do, we could colonize every star system in only 50 million years. And our sun and our planet are relative newcomers in the galaxy. There are planets billions of years older than earth.
How?
so i just find out about this "new shinobi leak". My god someone is too afraid to go back to and face his own failures. New Galaxy, really? It's understandable that new studio doesn't want to take responibility for ME3 ending fiasco but this? Let's just say it is not a creative way to deal with the problems of post me3 universe, it's just a cheap way to put them under the carpet.
ME3 left the Milky Way untenable. There's simply no way to account for every variable so they would either have to pick a canon galaxy-state, throwing out the choices most players made, or simply act like all roads led to the same destination and design the game around vagueries and one-line explanations about massively important things.
"It's crazy how all organic matter in the galaxy is technorganic, huh?" "Yeah, but it has literally zero impact on anything so let's never speak of it again."
"So where are all the Quarians?" "Just, uhhh... on the other side of the galaxy... and they never leave the Flotilla any more..."
ME3 left the Milky Way untenable. There's simply no way to account for every variable so they would either have to pick a canon galaxy-state, throwing out the choices most players made, or simply act like all roads led to the same destination and design the game around vagueries and one-line explanations about massively important things.
"It's crazy how all organic matter in the galaxy is technorganic, huh?" "Yeah, but it has literally zero impact on anything so let's never speak of it again."
"So where are all the Quarians?" "Just, uhhh... on the other side of the galaxy... and they never leave the Flotilla any more..."
It is frustrating that the whole thing has to play hostage to that ending, where apart from ditching the entire galaxy, there is no way to move forward.
so i just find out about this "new shinobi leak". My god someone is too afraid to go back to and face his own failures. New Galaxy, really? It's understandable that new studio doesn't want to take responibility for ME3 ending fiasco but this? Let's just say it is not a creative way to deal with the problems of post me3 universe, it's just a cheap way to put them under the carpet.
I just don't get why Andromeda. If they had no other ideas than galaxy jumping, they could have just have the people go to one of the dozen Dwarf galaxies that are orbiting the Milky Way. Close enough that the technology our cycle has can make the journey if needed without too much strain on the lore, yet far enough away to not be affected by the Crucible.
They aren't sexy enoughI just don't get why Andromeda. If they had no other ideas than galaxy jumping, they could have just have the people go to one of the dozen Dwarf galaxies that are orbiting the Milky Way. Close enough that the technology our cycle has can make the journey if needed without too much strain on the lore, yet far enough away to not be affected by the Crucible.
They aren't sexy enough
But they are close enough we know what the clusters, nebulae, and supernova remnants look like to have as the backdrop for the areas like the ME trilogy did. And if they wanted the Milky Way can be in the sky of some of the planets.
With Andromeda we only have the view of the galaxy itself. We will never be seeing Andromeda in that view except maybe the opening cutscene showing the ship going there. It won't even be on the galaxy map since we are in only a cluster of it.
So for a game like Mass Effect, they are sexier than Andromeda would be.
I just don't get why Andromeda. If they had no other ideas than galaxy jumping, they could have just have the people go to one of the dozen Dwarf galaxies that are orbiting the Milky Way. Close enough that the technology our cycle has can make the journey if needed without too much strain on the lore, yet far enough away to not be affected by the Crucible.
The technology of "our" cycle is space magic. Why are you getting hung up on this detail? ME3 threw all technological logic out the window. We could use a wormhole to get to the Andromeda galaxy. It could be a 'Contact' situation where we're given plans to build the technology to get us there. It could be anything.
Depends, but the average person probably doesn't know what a dwarf Galaxy is. I'm guessing they chose it for the name recognitionBut they are close enough we know what the clusters, nebulae, and supernova remnants look like to have as the backdrop for the areas like the ME trilogy did. And if they wanted the Milky Way can be in the sky of some of the planets.
With Andromeda we only have the view of the galaxy itself. We will never be seeing Andromeda in that view except maybe the opening cutscene showing the ship going there. It won't even be on the galaxy map since we are in only a cluster of it.
So for a game like Mass Effect, they are sexier than Andromeda would be.
The technology of "our" cycle is space magic. Why are you getting hung up on this detail? ME3 threw all technological logic out the window. We could use a wormhole to get to the Andromeda galaxy. It could be a 'Contact' situation where we're given plans to build the technology to get us there. It could be anything.
Because that is a big detail. It throws the established lore away. You're fine with everything in ME just being "because Space Magic" now?
Depends, but the average person probably doesn't know what a dwarf Galaxy is. I'm guessing they chose it for the name recognition
And maybe to emphasize that it's a one way trip.
A lot of people don't know a lot of things about astronomy, but Bioware still put those things in. It can be a learning experience. Besides, people know about things like the Large Magellanic Cloud, or LMC, dwarf galaxy. I mean, you can see it and the SMC clearly with the naked eye from Earth.
I know, I just think name recognition may be a factor.Because that is a big detail. It throws the established lore away. You're fine with everything in ME just being "because Space Magic" now?
A lot of people don't know a lot of things about astronomy, but Bioware still put those things in. It can be a learning experience. Besides, people know about things like the Large Magellanic Cloud, or LMC, dwarf galaxy. I mean, you can see it and the SMC clearly with the naked eye from Earth.
Because that is a big detail. It throws the established lore away. You're fine with everything in ME just being "because Space Magic" now?
I know, I just think name recognition may be a factor.
And are such bodies far enough away to discourage travel back to the Milky Way?
I agree. I think it's the only reason they chose Andromeda personally.
The LMC is 158,200 light years away, or just over a 36 year trip with the FTL our cycle has, so at the very least it will be a long time before the ship gets enough fuel and rebuilds what is needed(going by the droppable ballasts as a way to discharge suggestion) to even consider heading back.
Then I guess it depends on whether or not they want to tell the story of the freshly arrived colonists or start at a point later in time. (My preferred structure has been a good amount of time after arrival, with the Pathfinder Initiative created to find new planets to support the population that the first colony was unable to, being on a suboptimal planet. That would allow for some level of establishment in the new Galaxy instead of being a very small number of colonists)I agree. I think it's the only reason they chose Andromeda personally.
The LMC is 158,200 light years away, or just over a 36 year trip with the FTL our cycle has, so at the very least it will be a long time before the ship gets enough fuel and rebuilds what is needed(going by the droppable ballasts as a way to discharge suggestion) to even consider heading back.
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Andromeda is beautiful!
This has nothing to do with anything but I want to add it if it is ok?!
It is space!
Space is boring to look at just like that.
Mass Effect 3 threw the established lore away. There's no point in returning to a time before ME3, lore-wise. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Except ME3 did no such thing there is still a lot to explore after ME3 as in 99% of the unexplored galaxy.
Except ME3 did no such thing there is still a lot to explore after ME3 as in 99% of the unexplored galaxy.
Missing the point.
If they don't leave the Milky Way behind, their choices are:
And the Crucible affected ALL of the galaxy, so yeah. The Milky Way is screwed.
And the Crucible affected ALL of the galaxy, so yeah. The Milky Way is screwed.
Indeed it is, and it's difficult to accept the screwed state of it, as though a galaxy is not an assemblage of hundreds of billions of stars but something entirely other that can be screwed by a guy wearing a silly hat.
Canon ending! Which will ****** off a lot of people. Which they promised they wouldn't do. Although based on past experiences, I would take their promises with a grain of salt.
I know this won't happen, but if memory serves, people at Bioware were aware or must have been aware that the conclusion of ME3 would anger/disappoint some people, and they went ahead with it anyway.
In fact, a lot of people here often argue, that certain fans' inevitable disappointment shouldn't dissuade the team from following their elected path.
Because that is a big detail. It throws the established lore away. You're fine with everything in ME just being "because Space Magic" now?
A lot of people don't know a lot of things about astronomy, but Bioware still put those things in. It can be a learning experience. Besides, people know about things like the Large Magellanic Cloud, or LMC, dwarf galaxy. I mean, you can see it and the SMC clearly with the naked eye from Earth.
No idea what you're on about.
More biotic amps please Bioware and throw in some imitation Geth and a Prothean.
Missing the point.
If they don't leave the Milky Way behind, their choices are:
- Prequel/Inquel/Reboot. How many people actually want this? Based on pretty much every poll I've seen, most people don't.
- Canon ending! Which will ****** off a lot of people. Which they promised they wouldn't do. Although based on past experiences, I would take their promises with a grain of salt.
- Trying to carry over all three choices... which is impossible to do in a not half-assed way.
- Retcon. Not pretty.
And the Crucible affected ALL of the galaxy, so yeah. The Milky Way is screwed.
Honestly I think going with destroy canon isn't so bad. Your Shepard can be dead by ME2 anyway and nobody ever complains about that ending being ignored and 'player choices' or ever suggests that because their shep is dead they should have a replacement for the events of ME3.
It's as simple as saying that Commander Shepard (In this timeline/universe/version of events) did X your Shepard may have done Y or Z but this particular Shepard didn't.
And just to throw this out there for anyone who might read it. If we are all so unanimous about the ending being as sh*thouse as it is, why are so many people wanting the choices to carry over in the first place?
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