Mass Effect Andromeda - Known Features Thread - Who needs Milky Way anyway? [15/6/2015]
#1452
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 12:00
Whatever happens, the meltdown of BSN will be glorious. I've popcorn at the ready.
That's just malicious.
#1453
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 12:04
That's just malicious.
Nah. It's the best way to observe hyperbolic meltdowns. I have a special seasoning salt for my popcorn just for these occasions.
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#1454
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 12:51
Nah. It's the best way to observe hyperbolic meltdowns. I have a special seasoning salt for my popcorn just for these occasions.
It's dark behind that funny curtain.
Don't eat too much popcorn.
#1455
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 01:33
but remember... once the game is released and the raging starts.... the bannings will continue until morale improves.
There is a proper way to rage and an improper way to rage.
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#1456
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 09:05
I think we should all remember that at least some of the criticism will be legitimate. Even as someone who personally enjoyed ME3, including its ending, I had to concede that some of the things people complained about could have been done better, and there is a feeling the game would have benefited from another 6 months dev time.
Upset players will have a legitimate point If ME Next takes place in Andromeda, and gives no opening for a future game to go back to the Milky Way, simply to avoid having to deal with the ending. It's understandable to avoid controversy this time around, but to avoid it in all future games will destroy a huge amount of the potential the franchise has.
#1457
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 10:19
TBH, they've been hinting that this game is going to act like an offshoot/spin-off for a while. I think it'll be set on an Ark ship that leaves for the Andromeda galaxy just after Shepard dies at the start of ME2. Then they only have 1 set of game choices to even consider. I guess future ME games will the 'Better Call Saul' to the original trilogy's 'Breaking Bad'.
#1458
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 11:06
It would suck if Dragon Age continues on with DA5 and DA6 while Mass Effect ends with 4.
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#1459
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 11:24
DA was never meant to end with a third game. ME was originally planned As a trilogy. We don't know If their plan for the IP involved more then one game.I wonder if this game is the first of a new trilogy or if it is a one shot game, sort of like Bioware doing an encore curtain call for Mass Effect fans before they release the new IP?
It would suck if Dragon Age continues on with DA5 and DA6 while Mass Effect ends with 4.
I doubt NME will be the last game of the IP though, unless it fails horribly.
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#1460
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 11:28
I wonder if this game is the first of a new trilogy or if it is a one shot game, sort of like Bioware doing an encore curtain call for Mass Effect fans before they release the new IP?
It would suck if Dragon Age continues on with DA5 and DA6 while Mass Effect ends with 4.
I agree it would definitely suck to stop at 4 with ME! Which is why I don't think Bioware would do that to us fans. There are so many possibilities for them to use, even doing spin offs... It's outer space for fucks sake an endless amount of places to explore and unlimited imagination opportunities! Can't wait for E3 to get here and to get all the details available! ME is by far my favorite franchise and I can't wait to see what's next!! I love DA as well and it is next on my list of favs and I hope they continue blowing my mind with DA additions!! But only ME can give me the mako, awesome biotics, and a sniper rifle lol!! #thiswillbeepic!!! #headshotthebaddies!!
#1461
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 11:45
I don't think this'll be a new trilogy, but I'm sure more ME games will follow. Bioware sound like they want to jump around the established timeline, rather than make a whole new long storyline. Still, if ME4 ends on an ominous cliffhanger, then we'll know what follows .
#1462
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 12:17
#1463
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 12:47
ME was originally planned as a trilogy. DA has the ability to theoretically go on indefinitely because it doesn't have a strong overarching narrative. Each is a mostly self contained story, switching locations to avoid variable pileup. If they want to continue ME indefinitely in the same way, they may opt for more self contained stories.
The continuous narrative pays off.
Just look at the numbers for each game.
#1464
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 04:08
There are drawbacks that make a continuous narrative, especially with decisions carrying over, untenable in the long run.
For starters its difficult to plan out a proper story arc without knowing how many entries you have to tell it in. And if they just draw things out indefinitely, then things just keep feeling unresolved, good stories need endings. There's also the problem of variables piling up and the pressure on the developer to make them relevant in future games, that gets harder as you go on.
If they go for a continuous story, it'll either be a trilogy or a duology, maybe. If the plan is to keep making Mass Effect indefinitely, more self contained games are more likely.
Of course, they may want to test the waters after the ME3 ending reception, put out a title that can standalone but leave the door open for a sequel.
#1465
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 05:35
There are drawbacks that make a continuous narrative, especially with decisions carrying over, untenable in the long run.
Either make simple, success or failure endings, or use community choice.
Problem solved?
#1466
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:14
I don't think that fixes any of the problems I mentioned.
#1467
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:23
I don't think that fixes any of the problems I mentioned.
How does it not?
The variables don't pile up indefinitely and you have an ending.
#1468
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:25
Of course, they may want to test the waters after the ME3 ending reception, put out a title that can standalone but leave the door open for a sequel.
After seeing DAI ending, it seems exactly what they did with that game. Of course, Dragon Age does not feature continuous narrative similar to Mass Effect but a similar scene at the ending leaves the door open for possible sequels. Just need to make choices not as galaxy-altering as in Mass Effect.
#1469
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:38
After seeing DAI ending, it seems exactly what they did with that game. Of course, Dragon Age does not feature continuous narrative similar to Mass Effect but a similar scene at the ending leaves the door open for possible sequels. Just need to make choices not as galaxy-altering as in Mass Effect.
I agree mostly with what you've said but I like the idea of exploring new galaxies rather than revisiting harvested planets and sceneries already viewed.. By moving ME into new regions, we get to explore other possibilities and indulge the imagination.. When I read some of the posts, I notice that some are to glued to wanting ME to be true to life and to be backed up by scientific facts, but fail to take in to consideration what would be taken away from the game.. I don't think a talking purple dragon that beats up pink gorillas will happen any time soon, but that doesn't mean that spyro wasn't an awesome game.. Just sayin...
#1470
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:42
By moving ME into new regions, we get to explore other possibilities and indulge the imagination.
I just don't even know what that means. What kinds of possibilities?
#1471
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:43
Guest_john_sheparrd_*
I just hope we don't get another saving the galaxy plot (The Reapers just can't be beaten in that regard and it would feel like a rehash)
I'm hoping for something small-scale
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#1472
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:45
I agree mostly with what you've said but I like the idea of exploring new galaxies rather than revisiting harvested planets and sceneries already viewed.. By moving ME into new regions, we get to explore other possibilities and indulge the imagination.. When I read some of the posts, I notice that some are to glued to wanting ME to be true to life and to be backed up by scientific facts, but fail to take in to consideration what would be taken away from the game.. I don't think a talking purple dragon that beats up pink gorillas will happen any time soon, but that doesn't mean that spyro wasn't an awesome game.. Just sayin...
I'm neutral in the whole 'Andromeda-MW' debate, but remaining in the MW still allow us to explore uncharted planets. We Explored very little of the MW.
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#1473
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:46
I just we don't get another saving the galaxy plot (The Reapers just can't be beaten in that regard and it would feel like a rehash)
I'm hoping for something small-scale
Rehashes are fine. The overarching approach being formulaic doesn't mean there's no room for novelty on the side.
And small scale? That's what side-quests are for.
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#1474
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:52
I just don't even know what that means. What kind of possibilities?
Other possibilities such as new worlds, new alien races, a new set of conflicts... Like what they have done with DA by each new story having a new set of companions, new enemies, new places to explore.. To give an example to indulging the imagination, we could travel to a galaxy completely made up (ex. Gaxalxy grape soda and visit planet purple orange green and whiskey lol). ME has unlimited potential. What I find to be most rewarding about games is seeing someone else's imagination at work.. Such as the turians and asari, its interesting to see a world through someone else's imagination in my opinion...
#1475
Posté 08 juin 2015 - 06:54
I'm neutral in the whole 'Andromeda-MW' debate, but remaining in the MW still allow us to explore uncharted planets. We Explored very little of the MW.
We've explored very little of what we actually explored. Having seen or visited one place on a planet doesn't mean you've explored the planet.
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