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Mass Effect Andromeda - Known Features Thread - Who needs Milky Way anyway? [15/6/2015]


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I agree mostly with what you've said but I like the idea of exploring new galaxies rather than revisiting harvested planets and sceneries already viewed.. By moving ME into new regions, we get to explore other possibilities and indulge the imagination.. When I read some of the posts, I notice that some are to glued to wanting ME to be true to life and to be backed up by scientific facts, but fail to take in to consideration what would be taken away from the game.. I don't think a talking purple dragon that beats up pink gorillas will happen any time soon, but that doesn't mean that spyro wasn't an awesome game.. Just sayin...

There were no places that stayed in their original state after transition from ME1 to ME2 and ME2 to ME3. Citadel was pretty much the only place common throughout the trilogy and it changed with each game. We visited Ontarom in ME3. If not the planet description I never would've guessed it's the same planet from ME1.

The galaxy is enormous, there is a ton of potential to have a continuous narrative and explore different locations with each installment.


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I'm neutral in the whole 'Andromeda-MW' debate, but remaining in the MW still allow us to explore uncharted planets. We Explored very little of the MW.


I can see your point here, but I guess I might be a little confused on how you didn't get to explore uncharted worlds. In the game when you travel through different systems to harvest materials, you would get a text explaining the planet and some of them were not liveable and you could not land on them, but were able to harvest using probes. Are these the planets you are talking about not getting to explore? I hope I don't come across as an ass for asking you this, I'm really not trying to, I just am unsure of which planets you're talking about..

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Other possibilities such as new worlds, new alien races, a new set of conflicts... Like what they have done with DA by each new story having a new set of companions, new enemies, new places to explore.. To give an example to indulging the imagination, we could travel to a galaxy completely made up (ex. Gaxalxy grape soda and visit planet purple orange green and whiskey lol). ME has unlimited potential. What I find to be most rewarding about games is seeing someone else's imagination at work.. Such as the turians and asari, its interesting to see a world through someone else's imagination in my opinion...

 

But that's a waste.

 

You meet a bunch of Turian military types and then conclude that there's nothing more to explore about Turians?

 

You visit one place on a planet and so it's 'explored'?


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But that's a waste.
 
So you meet a bunch of Turian military types and then conclude that there's nothing more to explore about Turians?
 
You visit one place on a planet and so it's 'explored'?


Ahh, okay I see your point there.. I agree it would be interesting to learn more about the individual races, but at the same time looking from a devs POV I can kind of understand why they didn't delve deeper into race back story.. Reapers are harvesting the human race but let's hold that **** off and learn about the turians lol.. Hopefully in this installment, we will be able to receive more of a history story to go along with the main plot because I agree learning more about the races would add to the game.. Thanks for explaining what you meant!
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There were no places that stayed in their original state after transition from ME1 to ME2 and ME2 to ME3. Citadel was pretty much the only place common throughout the trilogy and it changed with each game. We visited Ontarom in ME3. If not the planet description I never would've guessed it's the same planet from ME1.
The galaxy is enormous, there is a ton of potential to have a continuous narrative and explore different locations with each installment.

I agree that galaxies are huge and full of potential all their own, but I still can't help but say I'm excited to see something new and who's to say that the MW won't be back in the next installment? I just really like the idea of something new, for me the MW is over used. Of course this is just my opinion and I know a lot of people want to go back to the MW.

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I agree that galaxies are huge and full of potential all their own, but I still can't help but say I'm excited to see something new and who's to say that the MW won't be back in the next installment? I just really like the idea of something new, for me the MW is over used. Of course this is just my opinion and I know a lot of people want to go back to the MW.

I wouldn't call the MW over used the vast majority of it is unexplored and the relay network will only cover a small portion of the galaxy. Add to that most relay's are inactive there's still lots to explore.


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I wouldn't call the MW over used the vast majority of it is unexplored and the relay network will only cover a small portion of the galaxy. Add to that most relay's are inactive there's still lots to explore.


True, but I'm still interested in what else ME can offer.. I know MW is a favorite, and has potential, but I'm ready for what's next.. These are just my opinions.. Does MW have more to offer? Absolutely! Could it be reused in future games? Absolutely!

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I wouldn't call the MW over used the vast majority of it is unexplored and the relay network will only cover a small portion of the galaxy. Add to that most relay's are inactive there's still lots to explore.

I doubt they will return to the MW I don't think they want to deal with the consequences of the endings

But I agree the Milky Way is definitely not overused



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One topic I think everyone is over looking is that this game is going to be a whole new story set in a new region of space.. Is this because of the endings for ME3, most likely, however returning the story to the MW would just be a set up for another Shepherd by a different name.. I'm definitely looking forward to a new hero and a new setting. I'm not saying that MW should be scrapped, I'm saying it should be revisited later into the games..

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True, but I'm still interested in what else ME can offer.. I know MW is a favorite, and has potential, but I'm ready for what's next.. These are just my opinions.. Does MW have more to offer? Absolutely! Could it be reused in future games? Absolutely!

Here's the thing the whole point of going to another galaxy is to never return to it, the MW would never be used again. It's just going to be wasted potential and most of the lore will be thrown away.



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I doubt they will return to the MW I don't think they want to deal with the consequences of the endings

But I agree the Milky Way is definitely not overused

If that's the case then Bioware haven't learned from their mistakes they made in the trilogy, they'll just end up repeating them again.


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Here's the thing the whole point of going to another galaxy is to never return to it, the MW would never be used again. It's just going to be wasted potential and most of the lore will be thrown away.


Not necessarily.. Anything is possible.. Its a game...

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Not necessarily.. Anything is possible.. Its a game...

Not really the leaks (if they turn out to be true) indicate that they'll be no more games in the MW.



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Not really the leaks (if they are true) indicate that they'll be no more game sin the MW.

The leak indicates the next game will be set in Andromeda and probably not in the milky way. They say nothing about not returning to the milky way sometime in the future. Bioware themselves don't know that yet.


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The leak indicates the next game will be set in Andromeda and probably not in the milky way. They say nothing about not returning to the milky way sometime in the future. Bioware themselves don't know that yet.

The whole point of leaving the MW is not to deal with the endings which will be a rather bad practice on Bioware's part.



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The whole point of leaving the MW is not to deal with the endings which will be a rather bad practice on Bioware's part.

Actually, its really smart on Biowares part because if the arc rumors are fact then the most likely senerio would be that the arc left during ME2 while Shepherd was being rebuilt for that 2 year period.. If this happened, then at the end of ME3 the mass relays are rendered useless so therefore the "arc" cannot return to the MW until they are repaired... This gives Bioware time do decide how to deal with the ME3 ending and also opens more opportunities between 2 galaxies.. Opportunity for future games in the ME franchise...
I highly doubt this is the end of ME all together!

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The whole point of leaving the MW is not to deal with the endings which will be a rather bad practice on Bioware's part.

A part of it is probably so they don't need to deal with the endings. But there are other reasons. It is fresh and new and does allow a different story to be told. The player will naturally feel more isolated removed from access to council space and resources.

 

Writers often write several books in the same setting, go and write something else, then later return to their previous setting when they have inspiration. It does help creatively.

 

The endings can be dealt with down the track when people are possibly less sensitive to them.

 

I'm not saying the ME franchise will return to the MW. But it is possible. I think quite likely if the franchise continues to do well and fans want it to return.


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A part of it is probably so they don't need to deal with the endings. But there are other reasons. It is fresh and new and does allow a different story to be told. The player will naturally feel more isolated removed from access to council space and resources.

 

Writers often write several books in the same setting, go and write something else, then later return to their previous setting when they have inspiration. It does help creatively.

 

The endings can be dealt with down the track when people are possibly less sensitive to them.

 

I'm not saying the ME franchise will return to the MW. But it is possible. I think quite likely if the franchise continues to do well and fans want it to return.

Except all of the above can be done without moving to another galaxy, since doing so is just unnecessary as the vast majority of the galaxy is unexplored.


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The leak indicates the next game will be set in Andromeda and probably not in the milky way. They say nothing about not returning to the milky way sometime in the future. Bioware themselves don't know that yet.

If ME4 is well received and Andromeda works well why would they want to return to the Milky Way and risk it?
ME4 is obviously a reboot/experiment of sorts (going with the leaks here) and if it works MW is done



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If ME4 is well received and Andromeda works well why would they want to return to the Milky Way and risk it?
ME4 is obviously a reboot/experiment of sorts (going with the leaks here) and if it works MW is done

 

Imagine if the leak turns out to be completely off the mark. I would be so happy.

 

I think it's exactly right though and may well have been released on purpose.



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If ME4 is well received and Andromeda works well why would they want to return to the Milky Way and risk it?
ME4 is obviously a reboot/experiment of sorts (going with the leaks here) and if it works MW is done

Because the milky way was also popular. And a change of scenery is nice. And people want to find out what happens next. And the writers start to have some ideas on that and want to tell that story.


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How does it not?

The variables don't pile up indefinitely and you have an ending.

Only if the story ends. The next entry would have to start a whole new story arc. (I'm not talking about changing the player character, I'm talking about the overarching story)

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Because the milky way was also popular. And a change of scenery is nice. And people want to find out what happens next. And the writers start to have some ideas on that and want to tell that story.

I guess we will just have to wait and see

But "change of scenery" is a lame argument since that could have been easily achieved by setting the game in an unexplored corner of the MW
Instead they chose to dump the latter and create a whole new galaxy

 

I mean I'm excited for ME4 too but its clear what they are doing



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I guess we will just have to wait and see
But "change of scenery" is a lame argument since that could have been easily achieved by setting the game in an unexplored corner of the MW
Instead they chose to dump the latter and create a whole new galaxy

I mean I'm excited for ME4 too but its clear what they are doing

Yes it is clear, Bioware is creating a new chapter to the ME franchise.. Lol

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Imagine if the leak turns out to be completely off the mark. I would be so happy.

 

I think it's exactly right though and may well have been released on purpose.

Yeah the leak is 90% true at this point I would be surprised if its something entirely different