Only if the story ends. The next entry would have to start a whole new story arc. (I'm not talking about changing the player character, I'm talking about the overarching story)
That's what I meant. Individual stories come in 2 or 3 installments, end there, and are succeeded.
Like you'd have in a television series, something like Star Trek. There are major story arcs there which have a beginning, middle and end.
Yes it is clear, Bioware is creating a new chapter to the ME franchise.. Lol
Yeah the leak is 90% true at this point I would be surprised if its something entirely different
And the reason I say it may have been released on purpose is because it happened before, and no one would make that mistake twice.
Why would they even put so much information in a survey? Doesn't make sense to me.
That's not what I was meant when I addressed the question of a continuous story. The trilogy is a continuous story, because it has a single overarching story.That's what I meant. Individual stories come in 2 or 3 installments, end there, and are succeeded.
Like you'd have in a television series, something like Star Trek. There are major story arcs there which have a beginning, middle and end.
That's not what I was meant when I addressed the question of a continuous story. The trilogy is a continuous story, because it has a single overarching story.
What you describe I would call a series of continuous, self contained, stories. That could be done, because they are echoed self contained, not continuous.
It was an issue of terminology then.
Although they still follow one another more or less directly so I would call it semi-continuous.
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Sorry the post deleted half of what I wrote for some reason and what remained came off as extremely rude.. Sorry!! The post was meant to say.. "Yes it is clear, Bioware is creating a new chapter to the ME franchise... Lol jk! I think that the story will eventually lead back to the MW or become a combo of back and forth between Andromeda and the MW"! Sorry for the other post coming off as rude!!
No worries a combo of back and forth between Andromeda and Milky Way would be interesting!
They could just set the next game 4 billion years into the future when the Milky Way and Andromeda collide. Problem solved.
I guess we will just have to wait and see
But "change of scenery" is a lame argument since that could have been easily achieved by setting the game in an unexplored corner of the MW
Instead they chose to dump the latter and create a whole new galaxy
I mean I'm excited for ME4 too but its clear what they are doing
As I said, part of it is probably to do with the endings. But there are also stories that can be told in a different galaxy that can't be told in the milky way.
Whatever they do in the milky way, they can always fall back on a massive industrial base. A new alien species is very difficult to make as threatening because of the reapers. They will not be extremely technologically advanced unless their entire back story is tailored to the reapers. And I just can't see how they could overwhelm the council species from an industrial point of view. Assuming the leaks are true, it is highly likely the Khet are going to have a massive industrial and numbers advantage, but they don't have to be technologically superior. I like that dynamic. Likewise, they can't really do the what the Remnant sounds like in the milky way because the Reapers would have cleaned them up more.
I think we should all remember that at least some of the criticism will be legitimate. Even as someone who personally enjoyed ME3, including its ending, I had to concede that some of the things people complained about could have been done better, and there is a feeling the game would have benefited from another 6 months dev time.
Upset players will have a legitimate point If ME Next takes place in Andromeda, and gives no opening for a future game to go back to the Milky Way, simply to avoid having to deal with the ending. It's understandable to avoid controversy this time around, but to avoid it in all future games will destroy a huge amount of the potential the franchise has.
No offense but I would call those people out. It's one thing to be critical of a game because it aimed for something and failed, it's another to be critical of a game for something you expect it to do but was never promised. At the end of the day if they're going to Andromeda then I want them to make the best damn Andromeda game they can make. We can always go back in a future game.
No offense but I would call those people out. It's one thing to be critical of a game because it aimed for something and failed, it's another to be critical of a game for something you expect it to do but was never promised. At the end of the day if they're going to Andromeda then I want them to make the best damn Andromeda game they can make. We can always go back in a future game.
Here's the thing, if the leaks are true then Bioware will be ditching the MW completely which means we'll never be going back to the MW ever again which why people have a problem with moving to another galaxy. People don't want to see such a interesting galaxy get thrown away like rubbish its only going to be a huge disservice to the franchise.
Here's the thing, if the leaks are true then Bioware will be ditching the MW completely which means we'll never be going back to the MW ever again which why people have a problem with moving to another galaxy. People don't want to see such a interesting galaxy get thrown away like rubbish its only going to be a huge disservice to the franchise.
Literally nothing indicates that they will never make another game in the MW. Stop dramatizing.
But nothing indicates that they'll make another game in the MW either.
But nothing indicates that they'll make another game in the MW either.
That's fine. No one here is saying they will definitely return. But don't say
Here's the thing, if the leaks are true then Bioware will be ditching the MW completely which means we'll never be going back to the MW ever again which why people have a problem with moving to another galaxy.
But nothing indicates that they'll make another game in the MW either.
nothing indicted they were leaving until the leak so whats your point? things dont change until they do and in real life there is not always a direct path that can be easily followed to a conclution
edit: ohjust realized what you meant sorry, but i know what your saying yes they are never going to go back to Shepard story that's done
edit2: But there are also stories that can be told in a different galaxy that can't be told in the milky way.
Totally disagree here i Really like that we are going away from the MW but lets not pretend it has anything to do with new
stories it has everything to do with not letting old stories get in the way
There are drawbacks that make a continuous narrative, especially with decisions carrying over, untenable in the long run.
For starters its difficult to plan out a proper story arc without knowing how many entries you have to tell it in. And if they just draw things out indefinitely, then things just keep feeling unresolved, good stories need endings. There's also the problem of variables piling up and the pressure on the developer to make them relevant in future games, that gets harder as you go on.
If they go for a continuous story, it'll either be a trilogy or a duology, maybe. If the plan is to keep making Mass Effect indefinitely, more self contained games are more likely.
Of course, they may want to test the waters after the ME3 ending reception, put out a title that can standalone but leave the door open for a sequel.
A duology would be a nice compromise. Maybe Bioware will continue the Me series with self-contained two parters, the choices from the first of which caries over to part 2. Give each 'serial' a satisfying ending and I'd like that idea. ME:Next could be part 1 out of 2 of the 'New world' story, Maybe they could follow up with a Cerberus origin story? I understand that acknowledging the choices of every single ME game will be hard but a few nods/cameos would be nice.
For me I wouldn't so much mind moving the franchise to another galaxy if the current one's story had ended conclusively. That didn't happen and Bioware's motives for leaving everything we've been fighting for in the last three games are so blatantly transparent that it kind of sours any sort of excitement I once had.
ME:Next could very well stand on its own as an excellent game but the likelihood is it won't be the Mass Effect I know and love.
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Literally nothing indicates that they will never make another game in the MW. Stop dramatizing.
Why would they if Andromeda is successful? It would be stupid from a business perspective to go back to the MW and possibly reignite the controversy
of the endings
If you can't see the obvious reasoning behind them setting ME4 in Andromeda I'm not sure what to tell you
Why would they if Andromeda is successful? It would be stupid from a business perspective to go back to the MW and possibly reignite the controversy of the endings
If you can't see the obvious reasoning behind them setting ME4 in Andromeda I'm not sure what to tell you
I know why they would move to Andromeda. Its a good idea and support it. Im just saying that someday they could make another game set in the MW, whether its a prequel, a sidequel or even a sequel(tho its very not likely for this one). A game set before ME1, a game set in the 2 years while Shepard was dead or maybe during ME3 are very possible.
The milky way's problem is a world state problem which can be written around, just setup a plot in Andromeda that also affects the Milky Way and *boom* you've liquidized the Milky Way's world state and made it malleable enough to return to.
Regarding a return to the Milky Way...
I doubt it will be the setting of ME: Next, but after playing The Witcher 3 I now I think it is entirely doable in a subsequent game. Just go the same route CD Projekt Red did with TW3, and ignore some of the variables created by the previous game. Just select a single ending choice from ME3 and roll with that as the sole basis for your Milky Way sequel. People may gripe about it before release, but if the game turns out be amazing not many people will care. Look at the reaction TW3 is currently getting, despite largely ignoring many choices and different outcomes created by those choices in TW2. Like any game it has a few detractors, but on the whole both the critical and fan praise has been glowing.
Regarding a return to the Milky Way...
I doubt it will be the setting of ME: Next, but after playing The Witcher 3 I now I think it is entirely doable in a subsequent game. Just go the same route CD Projekt Red did with TW3, and ignore some of the variables created by the previous game. Just select a single ending choice from ME3 and roll with that as the sole basis for your Milky Way sequel. People may gripe about it before release, but if the game turns out be amazing not many people will care. Look at the reaction TW3 is currently getting, despite largely ignoring many choices and different outcomes created by those choices in TW2. Like any game it has a few detractors, but on the whole both the critical and fan praise has been glowing.
Canonizing an ending has always been an option, but everybody would rather whine about the lack of meaningful choice. Also if TW3 is any indication, choices carrying over to the sequel being a selling point is dead and buried.
Canonizing an ending has always been an option, but everybody would rather whine about the lack of meaningful choice. Also if TW3 is any indication, choices carrying over to the sequel being a selling point is dead and buried.
It has always been an option and has been suggested by fans occasionally at least since the release of the Extended Cut, but The Witcher 3 really demonstrates that it is viable way to go while still crafting a critically and commercially successful game. TW3 largely did what some fans have been suggesting the ME series do regarding the vastly diverging endings, and just role with a sole default import, and they've made it work. Not many people cared because it was a great game.
GalacticWolf5, on 09 Jun 2015 - 1:25 PM, said:They've already confirmed that there will be no canon ending to ME3.
Sole canon and sole import need not necessarily be the same thing. If an ending is appointed sole canon, it means that the other ending choices don't happen officially, sort of like the ending where Shepard dies in Mass Effect 2. That is quite different from a sequel that explores the results of only one ending choice, but isn't accompanied by dev statements saying that chosen ending is the sole canon. Basically if you chose any of the other two endings they are still canon for your version of Shepard, you just don't get a sequel that explores the results of that choice.
If Bioware goes that route, and realistically I think it is their only viable option for a sequel set in the Milky Way, it might also be a good idea to have the fans vote on it like they did with Fem Shep's appearance. Set up a poll before hand where fans are asked if they'd rather see a Destroy, Control, or Synthesis sequel. It gets fans involved in whatever path the sequel follows, would probably damper some of the pre-release complaining, and would provide some hype and excitement for that game before the basic plot is even announced.
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