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[Jaison1986]

I guess it makes sense on some level.

 

 

But kind of destroys the intent of the original. From what I understand, the original writers viewed him as a metaphor of their own turn-of-the-century Jewish upbringing. Being an immigrant or foreigner in America, and trying to earn respect and success. "Lois" kind of represents some normalcy and acceptance. Wonder Woman is the opposite direction... it's Superman embracing his differences.

 

 

Eh, but I like DarkKnightHolmes said... talking about Superman leads to cheesy philosophical discussions. 

 

I aways thought an relationship with an equal would the real normalcy for superman. I mean, sure, it makes him get out of touch of his human side even more, but I suppose it's a lot less stressful for him to have a partner that he can embrace as he wants and not fearing crushing all the bones in her body. Someone that understands his super human related issues from personal experience. In the end people seek other people that are like them, it's easier to relate that way.

 

But to each their own. Certanly don't want to start another philosophical argument.

[Dovahzeymahlkey]

I aways thought an relationship with an equal would the real normalcy for superman. I mean, sure, it makes him get out of touch of his human side even more, but I suppose it's a lot less stressful for him to have a partner that he can embrace as he wants and not fearing crushing all the bones in her body. Someone that understands his super human related issues from personal experience. In the end people seek other people that are like them, it's easier to relate that way.

 

But to each their own. Certanly don't want to start another philosophical argument.

storywise, thanks to Flashpoint, The Flash screwed up and resetted the timeline in a way that the relationship between the two never works out like in the other timelines before DCnU.

[Sully13]

wat

FOR THE LOVE OF GRODD BATMAN BUY THEM A RECORDER BOX.  

[Dovahzeymahlkey]

Is Flashpoint what created the New52?

 

Sorry... I pick things up occasionally, but don't know a lot of big events since 20 yrs ago.

yes, Flashpoint is what created new52. Oddly enough, thanks to Convergence, those timelines erased by Flashpoint became canon again, completely undoing the entire point of Flashpoint...

 

Anyways, have some Superman new52 lore.

[Sully13]

isnt that what always happenes?

*coff Heroes Reborn*coff

[TheClonesLegacy]

yes, Flashpoint is what created new52. Oddly enough, thanks to Convergence, those timelines erased by Flashpoint became canon again, completely undoing the entire point of Flashpoint...

That's because they made up Convergence pretty much on the spot after realizing what Marvel had been planning since 2009 (Secret Wars 2015, and the All New, All Different Marvel branding)

 

DC aren't great long term planners, which is ultimately why they ****** me off so much as a company.

 

Also I thought Convergence was garbage.

 

Just keep putting out Injustice Books and I'll be happy DC, please and thank you.

[Swaggerjking]

I personally don't like this trailer at all I just can't feel and I my self can't seem to find anything i really like in this trailer maybe other than the quick wonder woman thing was kinda cool but everything else looks stupid and is just disappointed especially that freaking stupid gas station  scene really killed it

Oh and especially the info they I think was said at CC about metropolis and Gotham are is so freaking cheap to make this happen  and the look they gave Lex Luther I really hate it 

[Fast Jimmy]

isnt that what always happenes?
*coff Heroes Reborn*coff

Hey now... that show might not be terrible... maybe...

[TheClonesLegacy]

Hey now... that show might not be terrible... maybe...

I think she meant this.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Heroes_Reborn

[Dermain]

Nature abhors cheaters. Richard Dawkins talks about this in The Selfish Gene - those animals who participate in even rudimentary communities are shunned and cast out for not pulling their weight or abusing the good graces of others in the community. This aggression can result in punishment, exile, even death. This ranges from the lowly insect, to flocks of birds all the way to sentient beings - if you don't contribute, you are openly shunned.

Superman would not be welcome in society if he just shrugged off people's cries for help. He would be ridiculed, shut out, possibly even hunted down. That's basic community dynamics on every level of life. So Superman has a biological imperative imposed by the shared social responsibility nature of communities to help those he can.

 

+100 approval for mentioning The Selfish Gene.

 

Morality, the ability to choose between a beneficial or harmful action (to oneself, a person or a group of people) is exclusive property of man.

No one has observed actual morality in the animal kingdom, rather biological dictated behaviour, in fact the greatest good acts a man can do can be depriving his personal space or any personal right he believes in. Father Kolbe offered his life instead of the one of a family man, acting against his personal interest to stay alive.

 

What I was disputing is if that kind of man (Dawkins) can talk about science (which, by now, has never observed morality acts in the animals) and selfishness without resulting goofy.

 

He's an evolutionary biologist, and there are numerous studies that examine morality in animals in biology and comparative psychology.

[Sully13]

Hey now... that show might not be terrible... maybe...

thats Legends of Tomorow. hand over your nerd licence.

 

heroes reborn was one of the first attempts at a reimagening. it happened after the Onslaught event in the 90s. 

My point is it only lasted a year or two.

[Fast Jimmy]

thats Legends of Tomorow. hand over your nerd licence.

heroes reborn was one of the first attempts at a reimagening. it happened after the Onslaught event in the 90s.
My point is it only lasted a year or two.

I was thinking of THIS, not Legends of Tomorrow:

http://imdb.com/title/tt3556944/

[TheClonesLegacy]

thats Legends of Tomorow. hand over your nerd licence.

heroes reborn was one of the first attempts at a reimagening. it happened after the Onslaught event in the 90s.
My point is it only lasted a year or two.

Yes. It's also where that Rob Liefeld Captain America drawing is from.

[Sully13]

Oh i know.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Suicide Squad trailer is out:

 

I hope he's torturing Jason at the end!

[TheClonesLegacy]

Looks loads better than BvS.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Yes.

[Dermain]

I guess Leto's Joker isn't so Hot Topic after all.

 

He only had one face tattoo. The teeth still look a bit silly though.

[Chewin]

Still not convinced by Leto, but I will keep an open mind until the movie, since he is quite a good actor and I am sure he will pull of a good performance acting wise, though we'll see whether it will actually be "Joker material" for me.

[LPPrince]

Suicide Squad trailer is out:

 

I hope he's torturing Jason at the end!

 

2:18ish or so, pause it. You'll see The Joker torturing Harleen Quinzel. Guess it also shows how she became Harley Quinn.