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[Nogroson]

I would also be happy if there would be some reference to the endings or at least the characters (Shepard, but not only), but I'm not very optimistic on that. I think Bioware will try to stay as far as possible from ME3 and mainly Shepard.

 

Will see

[Mcfly616]

I'm not opposed to prequels in general.  But in this case, do you seriously think they'll go back to a purely overheat mechanic with weapons?

 

Beyond that there would still be the feeling that nothing you do in a prequel matters, ME3 will still happen.  Nothing you accomplish will actually matter.  Shepard and the galaxy are still frakked from the get-go.   

 

 maybe people should worry about the next game instead of the game after next. I don't really care if ME3 still happens. It happened. Let it go. The Last Samurai was a great movie. So was the Ghost and the Darkness.....Guess what: WW2 still happens. Two stories that have nothing to do with WW2. Bioware can just as easily create a story within the MEU that has nothing to do with Reapers or Shepard or any of that saving the galaxy crap.

 

No need to completely do away with thermal clips, considering they were around before the Reaper invasion in ME3. Everything you do within said 'prequel' matters to the characters involved and tasks at hand. Maybe we should hope they go all in on one game and make choices carry more weight in a drastically branching self-contained narrative, instead of worrying about carrying the choices over to the as of yet nonexistent sequel. (regardless of the chronology of the next game)

[ZipZap2000]

if this remastered edition rumour for next gen turns out to be real i'll be squarely in the sequel camp until then I have no idea what's going on but enjoying reading this thread A LOT.

[Sanunes]

I would also be happy if there would be some reference to the endings or at least the characters (Shepard, but not only), but I'm not very optimistic on that. I think Bioware will try to stay as far as possible from ME3 and mainly Shepard.

 

Will see

 

The problem with referencing Shepard is the same as what was happening in Mass Effect 3, Shepard made so many choices and if they don't include enough of them the warcries of "my choices don't matter" or "what about this choice my Shepard made, its important to mention too" or "what about my LI, I need to see them mentioned too" will happen again.

[FaWa]

Best to stray far far away from anything involving the original trilogy, because no one wants a retcon, and no one wants a choice to be canoninized either. 

 

I'm interested in how they'll handle it. ME3 was very "Who gives a **** about choices being hard to implement in future games, there are no future games!" in its approach.

 

If it sucks and its a prequel... The references to Star Wars will never go away.

[KaiserShep]

If it sucks and its a prequel... The references to Star Wars will never go away.

Heh, indeed. We'll all be Lucas'd forever.

[InWeirdPeril]

if this remastered edition rumour for next gen turns out to be real i'll be squarely in the sequel camp until then I have no idea what's going on but enjoying reading this thread A LOT.

 

If we are damn lucky, we could get a few infos regarding that rumor or the new Game on N7 day. But, I am not holding my breath.

But yeah, I do want a remastered edition too.

 

Heh, The Star Wars analogy oddly fits. I think all that is left to do, is hope for the best but expect the worst. Which is what I am doing.

[spinachdiaper]

After ME3 the only way I am going to find the Next ME acceptable is if there is a giant wall of time separating and burying all of the ME Trilogy and the start of the Next ME will be no direct sequel, sidequel, or prequel to any of the ME Trilogy is allowed. It has to be a refresh but familiar sort of jump ahead. I assume that this won't happen and the Next ME will be everything I hope it isn't.

[Tonymac]

After ME3 the only way I am going to find the Next ME acceptable is if there is a giant wall of time separating and burying all of the ME Trilogy and the start of the Next ME will be no direct sequel, sidequel, or prequel to any of the ME Trilogy is allowed. It has to be a refresh but familiar sort of jump ahead. I assume that this won't happen and the Next ME will be everything I hope it isn't.

I think they painted themselves into a corner, so to speak.

[Mcfly616]

Hmmm.....it's a pretty big corner. They can get by.

[Morty Smith]

I didn´t follow any BW-News after E3.

Was the rumor confirmed that the Next-ME takes place during the shepard-arc, but at a different location?

[Tonymac]

Hmmm.....it's a pretty big corner. They can get by.

How do you figure?  All three paths (or 4 if you take a shot at the brat or decide not to decide) are divergent.

[Sanunes]

I didn´t follow any BW-News after E3.

Was the rumor confirmed that the Next-ME takes place during the shepard-arc, but at a different location?

 

They haven't confirmed anything yet, for I think they are taking the same approach as they did with Dragon Age: Inquisition and say barely anything.

[Iakus]

How do you figure?  All three paths (or 4 if you take a shot at the brat or decide not to decide) are divergent.

Not to mention the different EMS levels are divergent.

 

And whether several species live or die are based on choices separate from teh endings.

 

Plus, you know, a lot of us think the endings suck in general.

[SNascimento]

That's a challenge inherent to Mass Effect and the fact there is no canon. If it was another franchise they could just canonize one of the endings and be done with it.... Resident Evil is a seires in which many games had multiple endings for example. Or Deus Ex. But with Mass Effect that isn't so simple. If they do that they are destroying part of the trilogy, maybe even the most important part. 

So I don't think they panted themselves into a corner, at least not if you consider that it implyes a mistake of somekind. And here the quality of the endings are irrelevant, we're simply talking about how divergent they are. The problem would be if they forced a single ending for everyone, clearly paving a way for a sequel.

[Sanunes]

That's a challenge inherent to Mass Effect and the fact there is no canon. If was another franchise they could just canonize one of the endings and be done with it.... Resident Evil is a seires in which many games had multiple endings for example. Or Deus Ex. But with Mass Effect that isn't so simple. If they do that they are destroying part of the trilogy, maybe even the most important part. 

So I don't think they panted themselves into a corner, at least not if you consider that it implyes a mistake of somekind. And here the quality of the endings are irrelevant, we're simply talking about how divergent they are. The problem would be if they forced a single ending for everyone, clearly paving a way for a sequel.

 

I think they could make one of the endings canon if they wanted to because the story is no longer about Shepard so there is more room for a complete wipe and certain things being picked canon at this point for it could be consider a new starting point for a new story.

[Mcfly616]

How do you figure?  All three paths (or 4 if you take a shot at the brat or decide not to decide) are divergent.

 because the game doesn't have to take place after ME3. Doing so would be the worst approach they could take due to what you just listed.

[Vortex13]

I would like future ME games to be set in a time where all of the varied species are present in the galaxy, and acting as allies, as that (IMO) is the most colorful and nuanced galaxy. For all the flack that ME 3 gets, I loved the bringing together of all the beings of the galaxy and everyone working as one; a little cheesy, yes, but seeing that the story was less on how 'special' humanity was and was more about the galaxy as a whole was a big plus in my book.

 

I am willing to keep an open mind about the upcoming ME title(s), but I really do hope that the narrative can keep all of the various aliens present, and still possible allies. I don't want the setting to revert to having the Geth as evil boogie men, or the Batarians as racist slavers/terrorists, etc. Truly, I would prefer a time period where even races like the Rachni can be seen as something other than a monster in need of killing; partially because I like the Rachni, but also because a ME setting that is perpetually about humans and the council races just seems so bland, when compared to all of the factions and parties Shepard recruited in ME 3. 

[Tonymac]

 because the game doesn't have to take place after ME3. Doing so would be the worst approach they could take due to what you just listed.

You are correct.  I hope it will be interesting to see how they work around this dilemma.  

[FaWa]

The First Contact War would be a terrible premise for ME4, as would anything involving fighting Batarians. (SERIOUSLY PLEASE NO)

[Vazgen]

One thing they can do is to make the relay in that region of space not working at the time of Crucible activation. So the wave doesn't get there and none of the choices has any impact on that region. 

[Mcfly616]

One thing they can do is to make the relay in that region of space not working at the time of Crucible activation. So the wave doesn't get there and none of the choices has any impact on that region. 

 maybe....but even if we go to an uncharted region of space with a previously inactive relay, the Crucibles energy wave still blankets the entire galaxy. Each relay it projects from, it spreads tens of thousands of light years. (so, it doesn't even need to hit a relay in order for it to spread to a region of space)

 

 

 

Not to mention, if the game does take place in said uncharted region of space through inactive relay, we would be leaving behind most of the universe we know and love. The game would exist in a bubble of space. There wouldn't be turians, salarians or krogan walking around. The only familiarity we would have is the companions we bring with us.

[Vazgen]

 maybe....but even if we go to an uncharted region of space with a previously inactive relay, the Crucibles energy wave still blankets the entire galaxy. Each relay it projects from, it spreads tens of thousands of light years. (so, it doesn't even need to hit a relay in order for it to spread to a region of space)

 

 

 

Not to mention, if the game does take place in said uncharted region of space through inactive relay, we would be leaving behind most of the universe we know and love. The game would exist in a bubble of space. There wouldn't be turians, salarians or krogan walking around. The only familiarity we would have is the companions we bring with us.

Unless they just make one of the relays to malfunction. Same races, same universe. They were fixing it up when the Reapers were being dealt with. That relay can be a key one, linking to multiple other relays creating a whole new region of space to explore. Based on the final cutscene the explosion covers roughly one system and dies out. If it doesn't get to a system it's quite possible for it to be left intact. 

[Pee Jae]

Unless they just make one of the relays to malfunction. Same races, same universe. They were fixing it up when the Reapers were being dealt with. That relay can be a key one, linking to multiple other relays creating a whole new region of space to explore. Based on the final cutscene the explosion covers roughly one system and dies out. If it doesn't get to a system it's quite possible for it to be left intact. 

 

I like this idea. But, I like even more setting it in an entirely different galaxy with entirely new aliens. Maybe they have mass effect technology but different kinds of relays. Think Stargate. Yes,we'd miss our Turians, Quarians, Krogans, Salarians, Asari... but we have the trilogy for them. I doubt they'd do this, though, since they've already shown our character will be an N7 and we'll have some kind of Mako. Yay, Alliance. 

[InWeirdPeril]

Hm, but wouldnt it be just a name without any recognition value if it had nothing from the established universe? Might as well be a new IP then. Which would be sad in my opinion.