Their home land is at the east I was led to believe.
So they somehow decided to go through the Frozen Sea.. The one most likely filled with iceburgs, and then with a ship, they managed to skip the coast, and directly land into the Kokari Wilds, only to be greeted by Darkspawn who somehow had gotten to that part of Thedas. Coincidence much?
They could have gotten to Par Vollen, why go though the Frozen Sea, when they could go north were odds of success are better.
So they somehow decided to go through the Frozen Sea.. The one most likely filled with iceburgs, and then with a ship, they managed to skip the coast, and directly land into the Kokari Wilds, only to be greeted by Darkspawn who somehow had gotten to that part of Thedas. Coincidence much?
They could have gotten to Par Vollen, why go though the Frozen Sea, when they could go north were odds of success are better.
Their home land is at the east I was led to believe.
So they somehow decided to go through the Frozen Sea.. The one most likely filled with iceburgs, and then with a ship, they managed to skip the coast, and directly land into the Kokari Wilds, only to be greeted by Darkspawn who somehow had gotten to that part of Thedas. Coincidence much?
They could have gotten to Par Vollen, why go though the Frozen Sea, when they could go north were odds of success are better.
Was, presumably, a mission of exploration. People tend to go far afield when exploring.
My understanding is that the qunari created a colony of sorts in the Korcari Wilds. I imagine the darkspawn were not a planned adversary.
How do you even land in the Kokari wilds?
Yeah and then became the first Ogres! I hoped to find out more about the "Kossith" pre-Qun in the future games.
The map shows it on the southern coast, sorta. So maybe the accidentally landed there? Or just very carefully. Even in that time period their ships were likely better crafted than any other ships in Thedas.
Since the Qunari originally came from across the sea, it'd make sense that their Kossith ancestors were likewise a society of prolific explorers and enjoyed pursuing knowledge for it's own sake. The land to the south of the Korcari Wilds is largely unknown (even to the Chasind Wilders) which might explain why the Kossith went to the Korcari Wilds in the first place, as it'd provide a great launching pad for further exploration of the south, as well as possible colonisation of the north and present day Ferelden?
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Ogres needed to come from somewhere. Before there were Qunari there were Kossith. And they got tainted and helped Dumat ransack most of Thedas for a century.
Columbus tried to discover a new path to India and accidentally discovered America. When he landed there, he still thought he was somewhere in a remote place in India until his light bulb went on.
Is it that hard that some kossith accidentally discovered or at least landed on a remote place in Thedas?
Columbus tried to discover a new path to India and accidentally discovered America. When he landed there, he still thought he was somewhere in a remote place in India until his light bulb went on.
Is it that hard that some kossith accidentally discovered or at least landed on a remote place in Thedas?
And the Vikings settled Greenland and a bit in Newfoundland, instead of going further south.
I'd go with it being a journey of exploration and may be getting blown a little off course. May be they started across the Frozen Sea during what corresponded to the end of the summer period, when it was still navigable, and as winter came on the sea froze forcing them to abandon their ship and head for the nearest land across the ice. This might also account for why the colony didn't last for long, because they were not prepared for a long stay in the area and had lost much of their equipment.
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Columbus tried to discover a new path to India and accidentally discovered America. When he landed there, he still thought he was somewhere in a remote place in India until his light bulb went on.
Columbus didn't discover anything.
completely off topic but I just realised how big Orlais is, holy shmokes
completely off topic but I just realised how big Orlais is, holy shmokes
It explains why they're so powerful and why Loghain refused to trust them as it's no secret that they want Ferelden back.
Columbus didn't discover anything.
In the context of what western Europe knew at the time, he discovered it.
I kinda really want to see Mont de Glace.
Ogres needed to come from somewhere. Before there were Qunari there were Kossith. And they got tainted and helped Dumat ransack most of Thedas for a century.
I also always thought it was a way to explain how Ogres exist.
I also always thought it was a way to explain how Ogres exist.
completely off topic but I just realised how big Orlais is, holy shmokes
what i find surprising is that there seems to be more land on the other side of those mountains at the western edge of Orlais, have we heard of anything from the other side?
the pilgrims were aiming for virginia and the wind took them to massachusetts
what i find surprising is that there seems to be more land on the other side of those mountains at the western edge of Orlais, have we heard of anything from the other side?
yeah, I don't recall ever seeing that part there, or even that huge forest above the Western Approach...but I guess that's my simple lack of attention to detail 
(pointless speculation) Maaaybbeeee, that part behind the mountains is not part of Orlais, and is, in fact...part of the OTHER SIDE (dun dun duun) and is another continent 
it would make sense to split a country using mountain ranges (like the Frostbacks do), and to me, having that land there just seems like a nuisance in terms of accessibility
Probably like the peeps that landed in North America.
"Man, **** this northern ****. Its cold. Bye Canada, hello Florida!"
It's a pretty blatant "whoops, we need to explain all the Ogres" thing.
That's an interesting if minor point. The Ogre predates the current form of the Qunari, and it’s anyone’s guess whether, originally, the Ogre was even conceived as a ‘tainted’ form of the Qunari, or just as, well, an Ogre. Maybe as simple as a tainted form of an Ogre-like species?
Things get rewritten and reorganised ‘behind the screen’ all the time, so I wouldn’t be surprised if originally there was no connection. However, once it became convenient, it became so, and they had to explain the presence of Ogres on the mainland of Thedas.
It might even be the case that the design of the Ogre influenced the final design of the Kossith/Qunari, rather than the other way around? If I remember correctly, while the relevant concept art is not available to us, early reports on Dragon Age suggest that what became the Qunari were initially conceived rather differently, as some kind of reptilian (draconian?) humanoid.
completely off topic but I just realised how big Orlais is, holy shmokes
I would temper my awe. The few travel times (DA:O, WoT) that we have can be used to calculate that Ferelden is about the size of Puerto Rico, or even a bit smaller. If we use that as a basis, Orlais would be smaller than some of France's historical regions.
I don't actually think Bio perceives Thedas as being that small, but they're awfully fuzzy about actual distances and thus the 'real' size of their world.
what i find surprising is that there seems to be more land on the other side of those mountains at the western edge of Orlais, have we heard of anything from the other side?
Not much, wasn't there something about the ancestors of the Rivaini (or at least the 'non-white' part of them) coming from somewhere beyond the Donark forest?
Actually, the Qunari were always planned to be horned, the only reason Sten wasn't was because they didn't have a way to make it work with helmets.That's an interesting if minor point. The Ogre predates the current form of the Qunari, and it’s anyone’s guess whether, originally, the Ogre was even conceived as a ‘tainted’ form of the Qunari, or just as, well, an Ogre. Maybe as simple as a tainted form of an Ogre-like species?
Things get rewritten and reorganised ‘behind the screen’ all the time, so I wouldn’t be surprised if originally there was no connection. However, once it became convenient, it became so, and they had to explain the presence of Ogres on the mainland of Thedas.
It might even be the case that the design of the Ogre influenced the final design of the Kossith/Qunari, rather than the other way around? If I remember correctly, while the relevant concept art is not available to us, early reports on Dragon Age suggest that what became the Qunari were initially conceived rather differently, as some kind of reptilian (draconian?) humanoid.
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