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[Chikiko]

I know it's probably been mentioned how the position of earth had a major boost due to the new position of the citadel.  but one thing i've never seen anyone mention is the destruction of so many ships near earth would mean there is going to be a LOT of free eezo floating about.  If you think about how many biotics were created from individual ships blowing up what kind of effects will several fleets of ships being destroyed near earth have on it's future inhabitants?  we may be looking at beginings of humans as a pure biotic race like the Asari.

[SporkFu]

Leviathans' thralls are going to steal it all. Remember there is still an artifact on the citadel, in Bryson's Lab... err, assuming of course it wasn't destroyed in the crucible blast. 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Leviathans' thralls are going to steal it all. Remember there is still an artifact on the citadel, in Bryson's Lab... err, assuming of course it wasn't destroyed in the crucible blast. 

 

It's destroyed.

[SporkFu]

It's destroyed.

Even though the citadel isn't completely destroyed?

[RanetheViking]

The Leviathans were even studying that,  "evolutionary implications of human biotics". Something like that.

 

I'm not sure how much would, or how long it it would take for the 'eezo' to filter through the Earths atmosphere.

 

Interesting thought, though.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

It's possible, and one that my Shepard's reformed Cerberus will be looking into. Biotics will definitely be a wave of the future.

[DeinonSlayer]

Everyone thinks Eezo will give them superpowers. Reminds me of that Family Guy episode where they all got powers, then (who was it? Mayor West?) intentionally rolled in nuclear waste to do the same, and all he got for his trouble was leukemia.

For every functional biotic, there's more than twice as many born with birth defects and tumors instead of superpowers. Just because a bigger part of what's left of humanity gets exposed doesn't mean it'll become an innate racial ability. Can biotics even reproduce? Are their offspring healthy, cancerous? What reason would there be for their children to inherit the ability without additional eezo exposure with each subsequent generation?

[Iakus]

Another question would be how frakked up will Earth be having that many KE weapons fired at it during the battle?  

 

Sir Isaac Newton being the deadliest SOB in space, and all...

[DeinonSlayer]

Another question would be how frakked up will Earth be having that many KE weapons fired at it during the battle?  
 
Sir Isaac Newton being the deadliest SOB in space, and all...

Not to mention the impacts of downed ships and Reapers alike. They figure the rock that produced the Tunguska blast (big enough to wipe out DC) was no bigger than a car.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Even though the citadel isn't completely destroyed?

 

Leviathan tech is very close to reaper tech. Therefore destroyed. *pop*

[Excella Gionne]

Earth is a biotic?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Think of all the dead reapers with their mass effect cores. Eezo all over the place.

[SporkFu]

Leviathan tech is very close to reaper tech. Therefore destroyed. *pop*

Hmm, hadn't considered that. 

 

So... in a generation or two, human biotics everywhere. 

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

Not to mention the impacts of downed ships and Reapers alike. They figure the rock that produced the Tunguska blast (big enough to wipe out DC) was no bigger than a car.

 

Those are going to end up being worse than any weapons that didn't bounce off the atmosphere. Most of the energy expended by shots was taken away by the atmosphere. Most of the shots would have been incinerated upon re-entry, any that did get through wouldn't be particularly powerful, no more in strength than a JDAM with a 0.1 Kiloton warhead (one-hundred tons). A bunch of physicists worked out the problems and concluded that the ME weapons, if fired from low-earth orbit (already subject to slight friction from gases high in the thermosphere), would have so much of an air cushion that if it wasn't any less than a 50 degree angle of impact, the average round would bounce off the atmosphere or burn up entirely.

 

Also, it was actually fairly sizable compared to a car. Eugene Shoemaker (famous astronomer, google him, he specifically studied asteroids) estimated that an asteroid between 10 to 25 meters in diameter exploding at the estimated altitude of 6-10 kilometers over the Earth would have the same impact as a 20 kiloton explosion (comparable to the Trinity test or Fat Man device dropped on Nagasaki). The actual Tunguska event was estimated to have been between 10 and 15 megatons, quite a few orders of magnitude more powerful. Size estimates were acknowledged to be difficult to give a real estimation for, but it would have had to have been a lot bigger than 10 - 25 meters to produce that kind of energy (50 PJ is a good approximation).

Another question would be how frakked up will Earth be having that many KE weapons fired at it during the battle?  

 

Sir Isaac Newton being the deadliest SOB in space, and all...

 

Mass Effect played fast and loose with their physics.

 

Suffice to say, no he's not.

[DeinonSlayer]

Re: "fast and loose," that reminds me - I ran the numbers and figured that the shots fired by the Migrant Fleet to hit the reaper on the ground would actually take a minimum of eleven hours to travel the distance the codex describes - it says the fleet is positioned on the far side of the sun, using it as a gravitational slingshot.

[Excella Gionne]

Think of all the dead reapers with their mass effect cores. Eezo all over the place.

That'd make a wonderful meme.

[Iakus]

Re: "fast and loose," that reminds me - I ran the numbers and figured that the shots fired by the Migrant Fleet to hit the reaper on the ground would actually take a minimum of eleven hours to travel the distance the codex describes - it says the fleet is positioned on the far side of the sun, using it as a gravitational slingshot.

Let's not forget what condition Shepard should be in being so close to those strikes...

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

Let's not forget what condition Shepard should be in being so close to those strikes...

 

Precision munitions are exactly that. We routinely dropped them down target's chimney's with an occupied hospital or school across the street that ended up completely undamaged.

 

The rehearsal minimum safe distance for 'danger close' munitions in a testing and evaluation environment is set at 600 to 800 meters.

 

In combat conditions, this can be as little as 20 meters. Splash damage isn't much of concern with penetrative munitions.

 

The Reaper is a bit further off than a few dozen meters. I'd wager about 60 to a 100 meters (which gradually increases as the Reaper is pushed back.) Shepard should be fine.

[Arcian]

Not to mention the impacts of downed ships and Reapers alike. They figure the rock that produced the Tunguska blast (big enough to wipe out DC) was no bigger than a car.

Yeah but a car isn't solid, and neither are ships. This doesn't mean they're not dangerous if dropped from orbit, but they're not going to cause 15 megaton air bursts. Speed is also a factor, and less massive objects are more easily slowed down by atmospheric resistance.

 

For the record, the Tunguska asteroid was estimated to move at about 11 km/s, or 39600 km/h. That's not the kind of speeds downed ships and Reapers could achieve on re-entry.

[KaiserShep]

Think of all the dead reapers with their mass effect cores. Eezo all over the place.

 

That's what I was thinking too. I mean, indoctrination is dead, but the reapers still have valuable parts inside. Imagine how much ship tech would advance after gutting and reverse engineering what's inside.

[Iakus]

Think of all the dead reapers with their mass effect cores. Eezo all over the place.

The demand for oncologists and brain surgeons will be through the roof!