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[xassantex]

new species ? unless they are some primitive society with no technology for space travel shouldn't we already know about them ?

Reapers have defiled every advanced civilization in ME3 .

but then.. space magic makes everything a possibility. 

[Lucky]

new species ? unless they are some primitive society with no technology for space travel shouldn't we already know about them ?

Reapers have defiled every advanced civilization in ME3 .

but then.. space magic makes everything a possibility. 

Well, there are species that have been mentioned but that Shepard never encounters during the trilogy. Take the Ralloi (or however it's spelled) that we hear a news broadcast while walking around the citadel about. Ya know, the ones who closed their embassy and destroyed all space-faring tech/satellites to try and get the Reapers to leave them alone.

 

I was always under the impression that there were dozens of species with citadel embassies and that we just only encountered the species who A: were populous enough in the areas that Shep visited to be unavoidable, B: were important to the story (had interactions with Shep), or C: Bioware had the time and resources to design/animate/voice. There is no reason to think that every species in galactic civilization shows up in the original trilogy.

 

Not to mention that it hasn't been confirmed as taking place at the same time yet. If it is earlier or later, then adding new species becomes even easier.

[JPN17]

1) Lack of communication has no bearing on whether the game is being rushed or not. The fact that we know little could just as well mean Bioware has no idea where to take the franchise now - which is not a good sign.

 

2) Timeline has not been confirmed one way or the other. Again, it's possible even Biower doesn't have the full picture yet.

 

I agree and this makes me worried about this game. Nearly two and a half years after ME3 and everything is still subject to change? Makes it sound like they don't have any story ready to go. It's going to be bad enough trying to get a good story going from the end of ME3, if they don't have anything yet...

[Dalakaar]

C: Bioware had the time and resources to design/animate/voice. 

I remember a friend (More a frenemy...) that worked on ME2 saying how the original ME had around 50 races but had to be trimmed down due entirely to monetary constraints. The skeleton for them is certainly still there if that was the case.

 

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As far as, "everything still subject to change".

 

That's naturally what they're going to tell us. Yet they obviously have it pinned down enough to show us a mako/hero. That says to me they're just playing their cards close to their chest. Par for a large company making a product in this day n'age.

 

I don't imagine the story will be as epic/epochal as Shepard. Frankly I'm interested in seeing more of the grit on the ME universe. Less "look at me and my horse" flying around on the Normandy SRBetterthanyours. Instead playing the resistance; survival. Imagine not even starting with a ship. You're grounded, have to fight your way to a shuttle. Working weapons and an extra thermal clip are luxuries. From the shuttle you get a bit of control. Now you can hop around the planet. Finally you get a ship that can get you off this damn planet. Which of course involves getting some working parts cause the ship is a rust-bucket... Renegade maybe it's just you and you charge outrageous prices for a few passengers. Paragon, you try to help as many sick/wounded get out. Maybe even making multiple runs past whatever "gauntlet" is around the planet.

 

If I were writing the overarching story-line my personal take would be something of a hand-off. What I mean by that is, Shepard is the end of that era. You're playing the end of that mode of thinking for the galaxy, for earth, for humans and their allies. What's next? Rebuilding, laying the groundwork for the future of the next era. I could see the next series start with the reaper invasion, but by the 3rd game of this new series I'd have it moved past that. Setting up the infrastructure of this new era; literally, spiritually, and politically.

[Lady Abstract]

new species ? unless they are some primitive society with no technology for space travel shouldn't we already know about them ?
Reapers have defiled every advanced civilization in ME3 .
but then.. space magic makes everything a possibility.

The universe is huge. The events of mass effect only happened in the milky way and we only traveled to solar systems within the milky way

[Mindlog]

The Galaxy is huge. I was under the impression that most of the relays were never explored.

[JPN17]

As far as, "everything still subject to change".

 

That's naturally what they're going to tell us. Yet they obviously have it pinned down enough to show us a mako/hero. That says to me they're just playing their cards close to their chest. Par for a large company making a product in this day n'age.

 

Hope you're right.

[Caineghis2500]

new species ? unless they are some primitive society with no technology for space travel shouldn't we already know about them ?
Reapers have defiled every advanced civilization in ME3 .
but then.. space magic makes everything a possibility.

As Lady Abstract said. The ME universe is huge. It holds hundreds even thousands of other galaxies. The entire ME trilogy focused on many solar systems within a single galaxy alone, The milky way. I believe that Bioware wants to shed light on the fact that every galaxy (not just the milky way) has it's own unique alien races with their own level of advanced technology as well as their own enemy threat.

Who knows, The reapers may not even be a big deal to a more advanced galaxy. They may have bigger problems than the reapers of the milky way galaxy. They did say that this new ME will be a new story and I hope it includes a new enemy and not just the same reapers with a Shepard 2.0

Just my 2 cents

[PHOEN1XK1NG]

BW said at SDCC the basis of the game is around exploration... and obviously some combat. They were very noncommittal about the timeframe.

What if the Earth was so damaged after the Reapers that it becomes uninhabitable? Or... What if some humans considered Earth to be a lost cause, and wanted a back up plan in case the Reapers couldn't be stopped?

The new task would be to travel through the previously unexplored (or hidden) relays in search of a new Home in a different galaxy, and to find aliens with three titttties. Ok... maybe not the titttty part, but you get my gist.

The possibilities are endless! I would like that.


(We're kinda teetering into the sp portion of the forum now. Not liking it. Bunch of weirdos over there.)

[N7 Tigger]

I actually hope it's still set in the Milky Way. A galaxy is a hell of a big place and the first three games have barely brushed the surface. With no familiar species/locations/organizations/lore I would be a lot less interested in the game. I might as well just start Gears of War 3. I also hope they don't go all Michael Bay on us and try to top the third game.

[LemurFromTheId]

Seriously, guys. Less than one percent of the solar systems in Milky Way have been explored by the current civilizations - and if you do the math, you'll realize that even 1% is orders of magnitude higher than it's likely to be. Personally I don't really want to explore other galaxies - there's so much of Milky Way to see, and bringing in other galaxies would just make the universe seem incredibly small.

 

The way primary and secondary relays form disconnected pockets of explored space means that there can be vast areas of space each containing numerous solar systems that are totally unexplored by the known races. There could be any number or races that we haven't met before, and some of those could be massive in both numbers and power.

 

Also, the idea that we must have already met all the known races is just stupid. Let's consider the drell for a second: Shepard has met three of them in ME2 & ME3 - Kolyat only because he's the son of Thane - and all of them can be easily skipped entirely. It's plain luck that we've met any drell at all. Maybe it's just bad luck that we haven't met some of the other less common races.

[OneMore1968]

The official trailer I saw said completely the opposite, it would be a new storyline different in every way than the previous 3 games.  I suppose that with some of the races being longer lived then its possible they will make an appearance again.  

 

One good point sees a return to the original idea of the game being role play and not a combat shooter with some rpg.  They are going to have worlds all of which will be very large and explorable.  Hopefully something better than the Mako for exploration though.

[N7 Tigger]

The official trailer I saw said completely the opposite, it would be a new storyline different in every way than the previous 3 games.  I suppose that with some of the races being longer lived then its possible they will make an appearance again.  

 

One good point sees a return to the original idea of the game being role play and not a combat shooter with some rpg.  They are going to have worlds all of which will be very large and explorable.  Hopefully something better than the Mako for exploration though.

 

Yeah, I think most people have forgotten that the first game was pure RPG. I mean, when you killed an enemy they actually dropped loot.

[Lady Abstract]

Seriously, guys. Less than one percent of the solar systems in Milky Way have been explored by the current civilizations - and if you do the math, you'll realize that even 1% is orders of magnitude higher than it's likely to be. Personally I don't really want to explore other galaxies - there's so much of Milky Way to see, and bringing in other galaxies would just make the universe seem incredibly small.
 
The way primary and secondary relays form disconnected pockets of explored space means that there can be vast areas of space each containing numerous solar systems that are totally unexplored by the known races. There could be any number or races that we haven't met before, and some of those could be massive in both numbers and power.
 
Also, the idea that we must have already met all the known races is just stupid. Let's consider the drell for a second: Shepard has met three of them in ME2 & ME3 - Kolyat only because he's the son of Thane - and all of them can be easily skipped entirely. It's plain luck that we've met any drell at all. Maybe it's just bad luck that we haven't met some of the other less common races.

If it stays in the milky way then that would mean the reapers would have to be the main threat again. They said the reapers arent gona be a major factor in this up coming game

But I guess we'll see

[LemurFromTheId]

ME1 was both RPG and a shooter. They are not mutually exclusive categories.

Loot drops aren't what separates RPGs from other games. And if we're talking about roleplaying, Shepard wouldn't stop to loot every single corpse anyway, and she would definitely not carry more than one or two extra weapons with her from the field.

[Caineghis2500]

So since the reapers aren't gonna be a major threat then the milky way might also be irrelevant since the reapers pretty much dominated most of that galaxy. I remember hearing them saying in the E3 developers trailer that they plan to explore other galaxies but nothing said in this thread is written in stone and everything is still subject to change

[Dalakaar]

I know, we'll use a supergate to travel to another galaxy where "ancient" metaphysical beings are parading around as gods. We'll call them the Snori. You'll play Space-King Arthur and travel with your merry band.

 

We'll call it, Fargate Effect. There, done.

[MEuniverse]

Well... I don't know... mako being back is really great news at least.... I hope they can make a really great characters that looks & sounds as cool as the male commander Shepard we know (never played female Shepard. Everytime I want too I chicken out. I think Shepard is one of the coolest heroes ever)...  if they are going to choose an ending, I'm glad that it looks like it'll be the destroy ending. It's the only one that makes any sense + it's of best interest to Shepard... they really should of changed the endings when they had the chance so we wouldn't be in this mess.... I want my hero to be a definitive one like Shepard instead of a no face like Skyrim/Dragon Age Origins.

 

In regards to multiplayer, I'm very, very glad it'll be more team focused instead of anyone being able to Rambo it solo with the poorest playing pugs just because they have the cheesiest weapons & powers on their side, lol. Don't want it to be person VS person though, though maybe BioWare can make it work? I don't know.. Just want a very nice team game with lots more maps this time and no hazard mumbo jumbo rip-offs.

 

 

 

 

I'm still going to give up my hopes that they'll pull it off right. Some feedback I recall some fans liking about past Mass Effect games that I want to be great in ME4 too is; a) the music. Everyone loves the music of part 1 the best. It was so, I can't find the words for it, but awesome, like exploring Noveria & CItadel to that music was pure bliss.. exploring the original Citadel in part 1 was so awesome. Make it very big like that again and bring back them elevators back! c) I'd like for the game to be more balanced and offer difficulty levels for true fans to unlock after quite some time and really have something to keep them going challenge wise. I understand casuals have to be taken care of with StimPacks and what not, but don't forget us that love some challenge. Please. d) Don't want to say much other then just do what you guys feel is right. And be very weary of certain fan feedback, including my own. Just make it awesome how you guys believe it to be so. After all, it worked for ME1, right? That, and I still have strong faith that you guys can still do this series justice. I've really had great fun playing all 3 games very many times, can't wait for more of the same. Good luck & best wishes to everyone at BioWare working on this.

You almost said everything I wanted to say,     

[Caineghis2500]

Maybe they might create a script of a super mass relay found that is capable of shooting spacecrafts to other galaxies. Who knows but I'm sure they said something about exploring other galaxies and if so then they will have a good script to introduce galaxy travel. They can do it. They are the developers after all

[PurpGuy1]

All you gotta do is explore the spaces in between mass relays, and you are effectively in unchartered territory with no Reapers.

 

There is no need for additional galaxies

[That 2Fase]

MORE than 2 years away   Speculate all you want      2 YEARS away      850 days  at least away from new information

[Caineghis2500]

 
There is no need for additional galaxies

That will depend on the developers and the new story they'll create

[KaiserShep]

That will depend on the developers and the new story they'll create

But with so much of the Milky Way remaining unexplored, another galaxy added to the game is essentially no more meaningful than simply exploring that 90-something percent that's left, because we'll only ever really get maybe a handful of systems to explore, opening up as the plot moves along anyhow. In-universe, there are many inactive relays leading to who-knows-where. The galaxy maps we explore in the entire trilogy just don't quite reflect the sheer vastness of what we have to work with.

[Catastrophy]

Yeah, I think most people have forgotten that the first game was pure RPG. I mean, when you killed an enemy they actually dropped loot.

Yea, but in the end it always was Hammerhead rounds.

[Salarian Jesus]

They never said anything about other galaxies, they talked about exploring a "different region of space". The two are not the same.