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[SilJeff]

So basically everyone had their own personal Google Glass installed

[SporkFu]

So basically everyone had their own personal Google Glass installed

I watched some stand-up comedian do his routine on TV the other day, and one of his jokes was that in 30 years kids will grow up believing that google created the Earth.

[Iakus]

So basically everyone had their own personal Google Glass installed

 

Google Glass and a Pax additive put into their air and water.

 

Of course, a fraction of a percent will react badly to it.

 

So instead of Reapers we now have to deal with...Reavers

[KaiserShep]

Google Glass and a Pax additive put into their air and water.

 

Of course, a fraction of a percent will react badly to it.

 

So instead of Reapers we now have to deal with...Reavers

 

Now you're talking. Hopefully I can fight with nothing but melee attacks.

 

[Raice]

Originally, I chose Synthesis.  Why?  Because it followed everything I had done up to that point: look for ways for everyone to benefit; failing that, use force as a last resort.

 

After a couple of days, I retconned my decision and chose Destroy.  Why?  Because Synthesis is just stupid.  No AI or Synthetic has the right to make choices for life.  Every living creature has a right to choose its own destiny.  If the Synthetics take over... then so be it.  At least someone got to make their choice.  And Shepard made sure they had the chance to make that choice.

[Cobwebmaster]

Well I can't remember exactly how many times I've played through on this but I opt for the Control and dissolution of self rather than the other 2

Why? There are several reasons but I will try to bullet point the main ones having during the game facilitated peace between the Geth and the Quarians despite being tempted from the Geth Dreadnought quest to eject at least 2/3rds of the Quarians from the nearest airlock
I genrally play as a Paragon or at least "Paragonish" rather than Roguish

I really did cure the genophage as opposed to providing a quack fix to the Krogan

I encouraged EDI to discover "her" own future as an individual by making her own decisions through the development of good judgement

Option 1 allows me to destroy all reapers and other synthetics including personal upgrades which presumably will include the Geth. I have a problem with that in (a) I spent a lot of time saving the Geth for them to become my hardest hitting ground attack force against the reapers and I am going to eradicate them as a thank you? ( Destroying the reapers has  the side effect of also destroying a huge number of organics roughly equal to the zillions that the Reapers have already harvested/wiped. As a Spectre I am supposed to be protecting the races. So I do that by wiping out another couple of billion organics destroying the relays and sending the rest back to the stone age with no implants or prosthetics?

Option 3 allows me to jump straight to a synthetics view of the universe by merging mechs and humans into a new sentient life form without allowing an evolutionary process to take place

Option 2 gives me the flexibility to continue the work I started during the game and allow synthetics and organics to find their own path whilst using my own judgement and moralistic code to help and support the evolutionary process. Maybe synthetics and organics will eventually become a merged life form through interbreeding but that is their choice to make. Maybe they will be able to live side by side in peace and co-operation- either way I'm not going to take the word of a highly evolved machine that the future od the universe is wholly dependant on a fixation with synthesis which didn't work before when the violent decision was taken to implement it 
 

 

[Iakus]

Option 2 gives me the flexibility to continue the work I started during the game and allow synthetics and organics to find their own path whilst using my own judgement and moralistic code to help and support the evolutionary process. Maybe synthetics and organics will eventually become a merged life form through interbreeding but that is their choice to make. Maybe they will be able to live side by side in peace and co-operation- either way I'm not going to take the word of a highly evolved machine that the future od the universe is wholly dependant on a fixation with synthesis which didn't work before when the violent decision was taken to implement it 
 

Except Shepard is not continuing work of any kind.  Shepard is dead, and is replaced by a synthetic copy.  One that does not feel a connection to organics.

 

Also, synthetics and organics will not be free to find their own path.  They are under the dominion of the Shepalyst, who will "guide" them for the benefit "of the many" (which can be interpreted in as horrifying ways as "preserve life"). 

 

Any peace or advancement will be done under the guns of the Reapers.

[Reorte]

Option 1 allows me to destroy all reapers and other synthetics including personal upgrades which presumably will include the Geth. I have a problem with that in (a) I spent a lot of time saving the Geth for them to become my hardest hitting ground attack force against the reapers and I am going to eradicate them as a thank you? ( Destroying the reapers has  the side effect of also destroying a huge number of organics roughly equal to the zillions that the Reapers have already harvested/wiped. As a Spectre I am supposed to be protecting the races. So I do that by wiping out another couple of billion organics destroying the relays and sending the rest back to the stone age with no implants or prosthetics?

It doesn't do that.

[SwobyJ]

The Catalyst is a cool guy. He preserves all the life and everything. Civilizations still die and stuffs, but everything stays recorded in Reaperz form. That's pretty awsum and will help us all out. Go Catalyst!

 

Shepalyst will help others cuz he's all cool and powerful. *flex*

 

Pew pewing the few for the sake of the many.

 

I'd probably pew pew Jacob first. Its for the best.

[CommanderRaccoon]

Synthesis.

 

I wanted no one to die cus I love all the characters. Also, I feel bad as the destroy option is a little tough on Joker and EDI so I do it to make them happy.

 

Most times I choose destroy cus SHEPARD LIVES!!!

[themikefest]

I don't see Joker being very happy once he learns his father and sister are dead.

[n7stormreaver]

I definitely prefer Control. It would be perfect one if it was actually Shepard, not a Shepard-AI. 

 

Control also reminded me the ending of Black Company book series from late XX century, where protagonist did very similar thing. 

[Linkenski]

If refusal dialogue lead to conventional victory, it would be my favorite ending ever, but the idea that conventional victory is impossible was a good call, since otherwise Bioware would've needed to completely nerf the power of the Reapers judging by how much it took to bring down just Sovereign in ME1.

 

Therefore I always chose control or Destroy. Destroy is a shame when you kill off a lot of synthetics like EDI and the Geth. It's a tough sacrifice but Control is sacrificing yourself to save everyone else (while also becoming god. meh). Synthesis is just missing the point of the narrative up until the last 10 minutes completely.

[Pestilence]

I choose control, I figured it was the only way to keep the leviathans at bay as synthesis or destroy they would just come back to rule.

[n7stormreaver]

I choose control, I figured it was the only way to keep the leviathans at bay as synthesis or destroy they would just come back to rule.

I like your way of thinking. 

[KotorEffect3]

I tend to go with destroy.  The one ending that let's me accomplish what I set out to do ever since I first found out about the Reaper threat way back in ME 1.

[KaiserShep]

I choose control, I figured it was the only way to keep the leviathans at bay as synthesis or destroy they would just come back to rule.

 

I think the Leviathan are screwed regardless. Even with their ability to enthrall other races, it's beyond their capacity to control enough of them to neutralize their ability to wage war. More importantly, they're now stranded on 2181 Despoina, and whatever other secluded hideout others may have in the far reaches of the galaxy. With the relays knocked out, their inability to acquire more thralls and the galaxy's knowledge of their existence, they don't have a foot or tentacle to stand on.

[n7stormreaver]

I think the Leviathan are screwed regardless. Even with their ability to enthrall other races, it's beyond their capacity to control enough of them to neutralize their ability to wage war. More importantly, they're now stranded on 2181 Despoina, and whatever other secluded hideout others may have in the far reaches of the galaxy. With the relays knocked out, their inability to acquire more thralls and the galaxy's knowledge of their existence, they don't have a foot or tentacle to stand on.

 

They can be very subtle and very patient. They've been hiding in shadows for a billion years. 

[KaiserShep]

It doesn't really matter how subtle or how patient they are. If the relay orbiting their system is never repaired, they can never leave. And if they somehow did manage to get off their abyss planet, the galaxy would have developed far beyond their capacity to fight against. Their single greatest weapon is their ability to seize the minds of other beings, but this can be easily counteracted, and unlike the reapers, mass accelerator weapons would have no trouble decimating them.

 

Really, the Leviathan are totally out of their element now. They're from a long-gone galactic backdrop, and they'd be dealing with creatures they've never had to face head on at all.

[n7stormreaver]

It doesn't really matter how subtle or how patient they are. If the relay orbiting their system is never repaired, they can never leave. And if they somehow did manage to get off their abyss planet, the galaxy would have developed far beyond their capacity to fight against. Their single greatest weapon is their ability to seize the minds of other beings, but this can be easily counteracted, and unlike the reapers, mass accelerator weapons would have no trouble decimating them.

 

Really, the Leviathan are totally out of their element now. They're from a long-gone galactic backdrop, and they'd be dealing with creatures they've never had to face head on at all.

 

You do realize that they're still more advanced and developed than galaxy in current state, right? I didn't notice organics flying in space by themselves or using ftl-communications without tech? Their communication method is also stated to be unknown for current level of science development. 

 

They're more advanced even than the Reapers, if only you cared to check your facts.

 

They don't even need to take anyone by force, if you use imagination and unparalleled control without even leaving your planet (The Fragments) you can achieve everything. 

[Catastrophy]

Vanilla Sythesis made me sad, very sad.

Post DLC blue ending gave me some comfort, couldn't never make up what the red ending breathing scene was about and the green ending was too much "we're a happy family - don't YOU think so?".

 

Ah well, maybe green ending also removes individual personality - which might be good: no more internet opinion wars.

[n7stormreaver]

 

Ah well, maybe green ending also removes individual personality - which might be good: no more internet opinion wars.

 

Also nothing that makes us truly human - our flaws. Idea of society without flaws is horrifying as it removes our real freedom. Neural Communication is an amazing thing, but only if it is optional. 

 

If a human can't choose to be a scumbag - does this mean he doesn't have freedom of thought? I think yes. 

[KaiserShep]

You do realize that they're still more advanced and developed than galaxy in current state, right? I didn't notice organics flying in space by themselves or using ftl-communications without tech? Their communication method is also stated to be unknown for current level of science development.

 

Their ability to fly in space using their own bodies (which are possibly augmented with cybernetics) and their unique communication doesn't really give them a significant advantage over the rest of the galaxy, given that they are so few in number and are isolated. Time and distance are not on their side. However patient they are won't change the fact that however long it takes for them to set their plans into motion will also be time spent by the rest of the galaxy developing and rebuilding, and using the technologies left behind by the reapers. The only advantages I've observed in the story are that they were able to stay hidden for so long and the benefits of their own physiology.

 

 

They're more advanced even than the Reapers, if only you cared to check your facts.

 

This doesn't really make sense. If the Leviathan were more advanced, then the Intelligence would not have been able to crush their dominion at all. Just like the geth are more advanced than the quarians, the Intelligence and its pawns are more advanced than the Leviathan. Even their ability to seize control over organics was surpassed. The Leviathan Shepard talks to says this itself. In any case, this goes against a major theme of ME3's story, being that synthetics inevitably become more advanced than their organic creators.

 

 

They don't even need to take anyone by force, if you use imagination and unparalleled control without even leaving your planet (The Fragments) you can achieve everything.

 

Force is the only option they'd have left, because these orbs would be insufficient. They're simply too few and too limited. They can't reach everywhere and everyone at once, have a limited range and they can be easily destroyed and shielded against. As far as we've seen, they've only been good to control a small secluded population and observation.

 

If they were able to rule the galaxy at all, they would have done so in an effort to mount a proper resistance to the reapers, but they never did. Either they're too stupid to figure out a plan, or they're physically incapable of pulling it off. I'm sort of leaning on a mix of both. It would be in their best interest to simply try to coexist rather than rule, because if they attempted the latter, they would die.

[n7stormreaver]

Their ability to fly in space using their own bodies (which are possibly augmented with cybernetics) and their unique communication doesn't really give them a significant advantage over the rest of the galaxy, given that they are so few in number and are isolated. Time and distance are not on their side. However patient they are won't change the fact that however long it takes for them to set their plans into motion will also be time spent by the rest of the galaxy developing and rebuilding, and using the technologies left behind by the reapers. The only advantages I've observed in the story are that they were able to stay hidden for so long and the benefits of their own physiology.

 

 

This doesn't really make sense. If the Leviathan were more advanced, then the Intelligence would not have been able to crush their dominion at all. Just like the geth are more advanced than the quarians, the Intelligence and its pawns are more advanced than the Leviathan. Even their ability to seize control over organics was surpassed. The Leviathan Shepard talks to says this itself. In any case, this goes against a major theme of ME3's story, being that synthetics inevitably become more advanced than their organic creators.

 

 

Force is the only option they'd have left, because these orbs would be insufficient. They're simply too few and too limited. They can't reach everywhere and everyone at once, and they can be easily destroyed and shielded against.

 

If they were able to rule the galaxy at all, they would have done so in an effort to mount a proper resistance to the reapers, but they never did. Either they're too stupid to figure out a plan, or they're physically incapable of pulling it off. I'm sort of leaning on a mix of both.

 

You're thinking in short-terms scale, Leviathans don't need to take over right now, it may take thousands of years, but they're not going to just swim around their planet, also their shown technology is just an example, if they can do that, god knows what they can also do.

 

Also you should check your facts on how they were overpowered by Intelligence. You seem to barely know anything about them, please check their history. 

 

Also they were asspulled even after the game was finished, so lack of their power representation is a BWT. 

 

But you can't just disregard something that used to rule Galaxy for maybe billions of years by saying that "meh galaxy is too developed now" No, it is not. And it still consists of organics.

 

As i said, they can do their stuff without anyone even noticing it, you can't just throw them away. They believe that they're still finest of the galaxy and they have all reasons to be right. 

[Lavinya]

I chose destroy because taking one of the other options seemed to me the reapers would still win. Also wanted the ending where my Shepard would survive and be together with her love interest.