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[The Venator]

(This is based on the semi-but-not-confirmed rumours that the next ME is set during the Trilogy.)

 

Many people want the next ME to be set in an alternate universe, the far future, or in another galaxy to avoid the endings, however this would be probably result in either contrived scenarios, or ones that are too unfamiliar from the universe we all know and love.

 

So, in combining these sentiments with the fact that ME is a choice based series, what if the next game starts in the same universe, with the same events, up to the point of ME2 or 3 or whenever? At that point, the events of this next game change the direction of the universe, avoiding the ending problem, while still being familiar.

 

It's like killing Wrex on Virmire or not, except instead of removing a character from the game, the entire storyline changes. What kind of events that would have to occur to essentially get rid of the entire Reaper War, I don't know.

 

But that way, we are dropped into a familiar, hopeful ME universe that we're all invested in and care about and understand, but at the same time we avoid the events of the Trilogy, and go off on a tangent, while at the same time, the events of the Trilogy still occur to the endings in the same way Wrex is alive for some, while dead for others.

 

Except we're dealing with entire games and universe states rather than just characters. This allows us to have a familiar universe, avoid a retcon of the endings for those who like them/hate retcons, give this game a meaningful rather than a side story, and also play on Mass Effect's defining characteristic, that of choices having visible effects.

 

Do you guys understand what I'm saying, and if so, do you like this, or do you think it's garbage?

[Pateu]

It would still cancel out ME3.

 

I just want either Destroy or Indoctrination Theory ( Starchild is the Reaper attempt at defeating Shepard, Shepard beats it, gets into the Citadel, fires the beam, the Reapers die, AIs survive. Shepard may or may not survive, don't really care ) and the story to be set some 150 years into the future.

 

http://forum.bioware...-mass-effect-4/

[The Venator]

Except that then retcons two other endings, which isn't the point. One of the biggest draws of Mass Effect is that it never had a canon except that which we molded ourselves.

 

Personally, I'd be fine with the scenario you presented. But what about those who did control, or didn't cure the genophage? I'm normally against pandering to minorities of any kind, but in a game about choice, even small, fairly insignificant ones, it's not fair to do that to those who chose differently from you.

 

This avoids that entirely; ME3 will have happened just as Wrex died/lived on Virmire; it's not retconned, it's just a different path. And when you think about it, Mass Effect is riddled with little branching alternate universes already, so why not do a big branch? I'm not saying it's perfect, but I think it's the best way to make sure everyone is treated equally.

[Pateu]

I don't know. Because Indoctrination Theory or Destroy are much more plausible compared to Control and especially synthesis.

[Probe Away]

Not saying it's a bad idea at all, but I can see 2 issues right of the bat:

1. That pretty much IS an alternate universe to avoid the endings.

2. Many would see that as a concession by BW that they stuffed up the MEU with the endings and we're doing a retcon, so there is no way BW would go for it.

Could make for an interesting story, although I don't really want the reapers back TBH.

[The_Other_M]

I'd say either marginalize the s*** RGB endings from ME3 and set it a few centuries later, Or canonize "Refuse" and try again next cycle.

[Battlebloodmage]

I'd say either marginalize the s*** RGB endings from ME3 and set it a few centuries later, Or canonize "Refuse" and try again next cycle.

We could even have the same races, too. Something like humans and/or other races like turians freezed themselves forr the next cycle and reproduce and reform their new society on a new planet in the refusal ending. Still, Destroy ending is the best ending for me.

[NM_Che56]

My thought:

 

While Shepard and Co., are trying to stop the Reapers, "Your Hero" and Co. are working on plan B; i.e., mass exodus from this galaxy.  Preservation of life and civilization is a top priority.  To put all eggs in one basket would be foolish.  I am willing to bet that the story will involve "Your Hero" and Co. trying to find a way out of the Milky Way in case things go pear shaped. You'll be bouncing around the galaxy trying to find tech and resources to achieve that. 

 

The game will end as a large contingent of the various civilizations escape the Milky Way during the end game of ME3.  I imagine the final scene going like this:

 

Your Hero will land on a planet, exit the ship and look out at the horizon...similar to that scene with Joker at the end of ME3, yeah?

Your Hero will gaze out into the unknown galaxy from the bridge of some huge ship, staring at some awesome looking planet and moons. 

 

I think the tone of the ending will be something like, "here we are...now what"?

[Heimdall]

My thought:

 

While Shepard and Co., are trying to stop the Reapers, "Your Hero" and Co. are working on plan B; i.e., mass exodus from this galaxy.  Preservation of life and civilization is a top priority.  To put all eggs in one basket would be foolish.  I am willing to bet that the story will involve "Your Hero" and Co. trying to find a way out of the Milky Way in case things go pear shaped. You'll be bouncing around the galaxy trying to find tech and resources to achieve that. 

 

The game will end as a large contingent of the various civilizations escape the Milky Way during the end game of ME3.  I imagine the final scene going like this:

 

Your Hero will land on a planet, exit the ship and look out at the horizon...similar to that scene with Joker at the end of ME3, yeah?

Your Hero will gaze out into the unknown galaxy from the bridge of some huge ship, staring at some awesome looking planet and moons. 

 

I think the tone of the ending will be something like, "here we are...now what"?

I'm conflicted myself, on whether or not I want to be in the Milky Way at all.

 

I really really don't want to deal with Reapers again

[Farangbaa]

Yes yes, every individual thought needs it's own thread. 

[NM_Che56]

I'm conflicted myself, on whether or not I want to be in the Milky Way at all.

 

I really really don't want to deal with Reapers again

Well, I can see us having to deal with them and possibly Cerberus for a little bit.  I think at least the first part of this game will be "passing the torch" to give a sense of continuity.  Otherwise, we would just be dropped into the middle of something unfamiliar.  Since Bioware is going for a "familiar, but fresh" vibe, this seems like a possibility. 

 

But maybe the combat will be somewhat limited. 

[Revan Reborn]

For the simple fact that I want the choices I made in Mass Effect 1-3 to have some impact on the next game, it has to be the same universe. If the game happens to take place after the events of ME3, I want there to be some reference of people talking about stories and the legend of Shepard. I want to know that this is grounded in the same galaxy and seeing how my choices in the previous trilogy have impacts on events and setting of the next Mass Effect game. If things aren't somewhat connected, then it leads to a disconnect much like the one the Dragon Age franchise suffers from. Continuity is important, and while Shepard's story is over, the effects of his/her choices should impact to some degree what happens in the next installment.

[NM_Che56]

For the simple fact that I want the choices I made in Mass Effect 1-3 to have some impact on the next game, it has to be the same universe. If the game happens to take place after the events of ME3, I want there to be some reference of people talking about stories and the legend of Shepard. I want to know that this is grounded in the same galaxy and seeing how my choices in the previous trilogy have impacts on events and setting of the next Mass Effect game. If things aren't somewhat connected, then it leads to a disconnect much like the one the Dragon Age franchise suffers from. Continuity is important, and while Shepard's story is over, the effects of his/her choices should impact to some degree what happens in the next installment.

 

I have a feeling that the new story will start off paralleling the events in ME3, but then branch off right before or during the activation of the Crucible.

[SilJeff]

I don't know. Because Indoctrination Theory or Destroy are much more plausible compared to Control and especially synthesis.

Control is definitely plausible too. Just say the reapers are protecting the galaxy from outside threats in Darkspace

[aTigerslunch]

Finding out that it takes place same time as ME1, made me disappointed. I would of been happy with it being 300 years in future, by then destroy or control wouldn't of mattered. 

 

Now that I know its during ME1, whatever....

[Probe Away]

Finding out that it takes place same time as ME1, made me disappointed. I would of been happy with it being 300 years in future, by then destroy or control wouldn't of mattered.

Now that I know its during ME1, whatever....

This did not come from BW, it was utter speculation by a couple of 'journalists' who don't have anything to back up those claims.

I think one of them even said it would be based in the same timeline because the new Mako looked pretty much the same as the old one. Putting aside the fact that the new Mako footage was only in concept stage, any fool can see some pretty big differences in the design.

Don't believe everything you read, particularly not about ME4. There are plenty of hack websites around that are making baseless claims about the game.