True enough.
KOTOR 1 particularly irked me back in the day. I am a Sith Lord, seeking Galactic domination and the ruin of the Jedi....hey, I'm going to stop here and steal from this widow and laugh. Laugh! Mwa Ha Ha. How evil I am for petty theft. THIS IS HOW YOU CONQUER!
The flip side isn't really any better, though.
Yeah, but you get all the evil opportunities you want in DA, with siding with the templars and all.
Why does it seem like there are so many psychopaths and sociopaths on these forums? Like, I get that it's an RPG and we should have the option to be evil and whatnot, but... holy ****!
You're hanging out in the forum of a company that let's people do all of that...scared yet? lol!
I thought it was awesome when we could curse that one guy and make him unable to speak ever again.True enough.
KOTOR 1 particularly irked me back in the day. I am a Sith Lord, seeking Galactic domination and the ruin of the Jedi....hey, I'm going to stop here and steal from this widow and laugh. Laugh! Mwa Ha Ha. How evil I am for petty theft. THIS IS HOW YOU CONQUER!
The flip side isn't really any better, though.
You know, you can play the game without killing civilians.
Most missions have you killing bad guys.
On topic, not TOO evil.
This is still the Inquisition and you're tagging along with the 2 hands of the Divine. You shouldn't be allowed to go all trigger happy like in DAO or DA2 and put that murder knife to use.
Sure, you just kill a boat load of cops in the opening and any time you commit a crime and have to get away.
Yeah, but you get all the evil opportunities you want in DA, with siding with the templars and all.
That's not evil.
That's not evil.
And that's why so many evil options are blatant; make them at all subtle and you get people claiming they're morally right.
And that's why so many evil options are blatant; make them at all subtle and you get people claiming they're morally right.
Remember kids; anything that isn't fanatical support for elves, mages, elven mages, and mage elves is evil, racist, evily racist, and just plain mean!
So sayeth the great prophet of all things just and right, Xil!!!!!!!!!!
Of course Xil's own list of supported attrocities and mental gymnastics boggles the mind.
Remember kids; anything that isn't fanatical support for elves, mages, elven mages, and mage elves is evil, racist, evily racist, and just plain mean!
So sayeth the great prophet of all things just and right, Xil!!!!!!!!!!
Of course Xil's own list of supported attrocities and mental gymnastics boggles the mind.
I don't like justifying my fanatical support for the mages, it's far funnier then 
So how bad can we be in DAI? Burn down orphanages with children still inside? Backstab allies out of pure spite? Butcher villages just because we can? Extort the helpless for our own selfish needs? Leave our companions/advisors to a cruel and undeserved fate? Outright join the demon invasion and let the world burn?
Not washing our hands after using the urinal is the kind of evil i'm expecting from the Inquisitor.
More like selling people to demons for personal gain, commiting unnecessary acts of murder and ocasionally slaughtering Dalish clans. DA has always had some outright despicable choices you could take. Why are you expecting any less from Inquisition?
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Why does it seem like there are so many psychopaths and sociopaths on these forums? Like, I get that it's an RPG and we should have the option to be evil and whatnot, but... holy ****!
I agree this is really strange I mean people really want to play freaking homicidal maniacs and hell even commit genocide if
the option would be given
Sure its a video game and I also like to play someone who doesn't take **** from anyone and is a very strict military leader BUT thats very different from the crazy things people want from this game
I agree this is really strange I mean people really want to play freaking homicidal maniacs and hell even commit genocide if
the option would be given
Sure its a video game and I also like to play someone who doesn't take **** from anyone and is a very strict military leader BUT thats very different from the crazy things people want from this game
Why not? That is how peoples work if they didn't series like Gta wouldn't be so popular in fact games that have violence in it are far more popular than those that don't.Now you complain that peoples want commit genocide but notice that you already kill in this game and do something that wouldn't be seen nice in modern society.Does that mean if you kill virtual peoples that you are serial killer?
john_sheparrd, on 29 Jul 2014 - 12:16 AM, said:I agree this is really strange I mean people really want to play freaking homicidal maniacs and hell even commit genocide if
the option would be given
Sure its a video game and I also like to play someone who doesn't take **** from anyone and is a very strict military leader BUT thats very different from the crazy things people want from this game
I'll never get to do those crazy things in real life, a virtual representation gives me the opportunity to act out dark scenarios. I just find it interesting.
I agree this is really strange I mean people really want to play freaking homicidal maniacs and hell even commit genocide if
the option would be given
Sure its a video game and I also like to play someone who doesn't take **** from anyone and is a very strict military leader BUT thats very different from the crazy things people want from this game
What I find even stranger is that they expect large numbers of soldiers to simply stand by while they do it. I don't care if people want to do things like this or not, but it makes no sense to ignore all logic and realism in favor of a sadistic power fantasy. At least some of the companions would revolt, all of the advisors would revolt, you'd lose all official support from both the Chantry and secular governments, and no less than half your soldiers would outright refuse to follow your commands... so how does any of this seem like a good idea?
This kind of stuff is really only suited to games where you are an individual or part of a very small group of dedicated, like-minded people... to expect the world to just sit back and watch, or for soldiers to even follow commands that wind up causing more damage than the demons is unreasonable.
This isn't a question of morality to me. I don't mind unethical behavior in a game, so long as the game responds realistically. We've had a lot of good, small-scale opportunities to commit evil acts in the past... anything beyond that is asking for way too much.
What I find even stranger is that they expect large numbers of soldiers to simply stand by while they do it. I don't care if people want to do things like this or not, but it makes no sense to ignore all logic and realism in favor of a sadistic power fantasy. At least some of the companions would revolt, all of the advisors would revolt, you'd lose all official support from both the Chantry and secular governments, and no less than half your soldiers would outright refuse to follow your commands... so how does any of this seem like a good idea?
This kind of stuff is really only suited to games where you are an individual or part of a very small group of dedicated, like-minded people... to expect the world to just sit back and watch, or for soldiers to even follow commands that wind up causing more damage than the demons is unreasonable.
This isn't a question of morality to me. I don't mind unethical behavior in a game, so long as the game responds realistically. We've had a lot of good, small-scale opportunities to commit evil acts in the past... the OP is asking for way too much.
Do i have to tell you what Howe was doing?
Or orlesians in ferelden?
Besides it was said you don't have to support chantry or at least devs said you don't have to.
Do i have to tell you what Howe was doing?
Or orlesians in ferelden?
Besides it was said you don't have to support chantry or at least devs said you don't have to.
Howe's family has had power for generations and the Orlesians weren't doing anything out of the ordinary when they occupied Ferelden. The Inquisition is a new (or at least, reborn) organization with no power of its own... it wouldn't be easy for them to establish themselves if they become known for sadism and barbaric acts.
Maybe the Chantry wasn't a good example... I mean established groups that hold power in Thedas... the Inquisition can't make a bad impression on every other powerful faction if they wish to be successful.
Howe's family has had power for generations and the Orlesians weren't doing anything out of the ordinary when they occupied Ferelden. The Inquisition is a new (or at least, reborn) organization with no power of its own... it wouldn't be easy for them to establish themselves if they become known for sadism and barbaric acts.
Maybe the Chantry wasn't a good example... I mean established groups that hold power in Thedas... the Inquisition can't make a bad impression on every other powerful faction if they wish to be successful.
It doesn't matter if peoples need you or have power you can get away with a lot and you are only guy that can save the day whether peoples like it or no.Of course it will make you enemies but same as supporting one group over another.LoL orlesians didn't do anything out of the ordinary good one...
Pretty much peoples have a lot tolerance for crap as Thedas isn't nice place for example guards were fine with vaughan party and even joined it.I doubt that peoples would care as long they aren't your victims and even then if you force them...
It doesn't matter if peoples need you or have power you can get away with a lot and you are only guy that can save the day whether peoples like it or no.Of course it will make you enemies but same as supporting one group over another.LoL orlesians didn't do anything out of the ordinary good one...
Pretty much peoples have a lot tolerance for crap as Thedas isn't nice place for example guards were fine with vaughan party and even joined it.I doubt that peoples would care as long they aren't your victims and even then if you force them...
The people are only going to take so much abuse before they start looking for an alternative to the Inquisitor... there is no guarantee that the PC's intervention is the only way to resolve the crisis, and if the Inquisitor dies prematurely they are screwed without a backup plan. Even if the Inquisitor is the most likely solution, no sane ruler would realistically place their fortunes in the hands of one person who could die from a stray arrow at any time... being Inquisitor doesn't give you a free pass to do what you want.
Also, soldiers follow the orders of people who already have power... any number of bandit chiefs could tell you how hard it is to start off with no power and gather a large group of people dedicated to murder, stealing, etc. The Inquisition starts with no power, so why would warriors be eager to join them if they seem to be just another group of marauders?
Every single gamer has already killed hundreds upon thousands of enemies. Some just want to kill a few more, in creative ways.
I feel most just find being evil more fun than the standard real life moral bound good guy. (I know I do!)
As for DAI, as long as the murder knife is back, I'm satisfied.
Yeah, but you get all the evil opportunities you want in DA, with siding with the templars and all.
Or you know siding with the walking carpet bombs that pass as people.
The people are only going to take so much abuse before they start looking for an alternative to the Inquisitor... there is no guarantee that the PC's intervention is the only way to resolve the crisis, and if the Inquisitor dies prematurely they are screwed without a backup plan. Even if the Inquisitor is the most likely solution, no sane ruler would realistically place their fortunes in the hands of one person who could die from a stray arrow at any time... being Inquisitor doesn't give you a free pass to do what you want.
Also, soldiers follow the orders of people who already have power... any number of bandit chiefs could tell you how hard it is to start off with no power and gather a large group of people dedicated to murder, stealing, etc. The Inquisition starts with no power, so why would warriors be eager to join them if they seem to be just another group of marauders?
We know that inq is only guy that why random guy is leader.So sane ruler will screw themelves and chose to be destroyed by demons?As it was said by bio you can either go for diplomacy or go fight ,crush and force factions to follow you so you don't have to be nice to them and still expand your power you may force them.
"why would warriors be eager to join them if they seem to be just another group of marauders?"
As i said because we are only one who can fix the veil either me or have fun with demons.Add to that money and desire for power.
We know that inq is only guy that why random guy is leader.So sane ruler will screw themelves and chose to be destroyed by demons?As it was said by bio you can either go for diplomacy or go fight ,crush and force factions to follow you so you don't have to be nice to them and still expand your power you may to force them.
"why would warriors be eager to join them if they seem to be just another group of marauders?"
As i said because we are only one who can fix the veil either me or have fun with demons.Add to that money and desire for power.
Okay, so what if the Inquisitor dies on the battlefield before saving the world? Everybody just sits around waiting to be killed by demons? Don't you think that every nation would have scholars or mages trying to figure out a backup plan? You don't think anyone would even try to come up with an alternative just in case the PC dies?
I mean, If the Inquisitor is that precious, maybe they shouldn't be on the front lines in the first place... maybe they could keep him inside a big metal box that they wheel up to the rift tears after clearing the area of hostiles. They slide a little hatch open, Inquisitor sticks their hand out for a few seconds, and poof! Problem solved.
Master Warder Z_, on 29 Jul 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:Or you know siding with the walking carpet bombs that pass as people.
My spidey senses are tingling
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