I'd give him a medal. But it would be a medal I would have to keep.
A posthumous honor for service above and beyond the call?
EDIT: His obituarity will read: The Alliance is deeply saddened to announce the passing of the Chief Engineer of the Normandy SR-2. He died doing what he loved; facing down a hot sexbot in a smoky room with the savior of the galaxy as his back-up. He will be greatly missed.
A posthumous honor for service above and beyond the call?
Yep, but doesn't Adams already look like a zombie in ME3. I swear, I prefer to talk to him with my eyes closed. He looked better in ME1, but in ME3, I can see the wrinkles... clearly.
If Conrad was willing to jump in front of a bullet for Shepard, do you think he'd take a grenade for us too?
EDIT: Fixed "ME2" to "ME3". DERRR!
Yep, but doesn't Adams already look like a zombie in ME3. I swear, I prefer to talk to him with my eyes closed. He looked better in ME1, but in ME2, I can see the wrinkles... clearly.
If Conrad was willing to jump in front of a bullet for Shepard, do you think he'd take a grenade for us too?
ME3 Adams is kinda goofy-looking, I agree. And I think Conrad would gladly jump on a grenade to save shep's life.
ME3 Adams is kinda goofy-looking, I agree. And I think Conrad would gladly jump on a grenade to save shep's life.
Not anymore. He's an Adam's now, remember? I just hope he doesn't put on that silly Alliance uniform.
Not anymore. He's an Adam's now, remember? I just hope he doesn't put on that silly Alliance uniform.
Oops, I thought we were talking about shep.
Conrad would only wear the hat, and only when he and Jenna are having "date night".
Nope, there weren't any problems until Mass Effect 3. Not even one.
Oops, I thought we were talking about shep.
Conrad would only wear the hat, and only when he and Jenna are having "date night".
We were, although, I think I shoved Adams in too fast.
Wait, does that mean he's not with his wife anymore? I'm more surprised that he's not dead yet. After the reaper invasion, I was imagining him trying to persuade Harbinger with his charms.
We were, although, I think I shoved Adams in too fast.
Wait, does that mean he's not with his wife anymore? I'm more surprised that he's not dead yet. After the reaper invasion, I was imagining him trying to persuade Harbinger with his charms.
Conrad never had a wife.
And I can see it now: Hey Harby, guess what? I joined the reapers too. it's gonna be so great! I'm gonna be the vanguard of your destruction. Uhh, but first... can I get a picture?
Conrad never had a wife.
And I can see it now: Hey Harby, guess what? I joined the reapers too. it's gonna be so great! I'm gonna be be the vanguard of your destruction. Uhh, but first... can I get a picture?
Didn't he say he was gonna show his wife that photo he took with Shepard?
And,
did he say that his wife paid for his off-world trip and that's why he's on Illium?
EDIT: Lolz, I was imagining him trying to pacify the reapers. I didn't think Conrad would join the reapers and where a crab costume while shooting out a little red laser beam from his gun. I bet Harbinger saw him as too primitive to harvest, and would rather pity him than kill him.
Didn't he say he was gonna show his wife that photo he took with Shepard?
And,
did he say that his wife paid for his off-world trip and that's why he's on Illium?
Yeah but in ME3, he admits he was never married.
Dark Energy was mentioned and part of a mission (Tali loyalty mission). Dark Energy does theoretically exist, so no idea why that is even a problem. Why do you think it is a problem, even though it is not even a major story element?
Where was human genetic diversity ever even mentioned and also a major part of the story in ME2?
I know what dark energy is, but its theoretical existence is not the issue. Even if it was just something made up for the trilogy, it wouldn't make a difference. However, I find your definition of "major story element" rather suspect, since many things in the games can have their presence in the story be reduced by opting out of specific dialogue or skipping entire missions. The dark energy problem was clearly the Big Mystery element that was building in the story. A star experiencing billions of years of aging before its time is actually quite a big deal, and it was mentioned enough to be a memorable part of the game. As for human genetic diversity, it's a big part of Maelon's experimentation, since he's using humans to formulate a cure for the genophage. However, major or not, the idea of humans being unique because of their genetic diversity is a terrible concept that should have died on the drawing board. Then you have the other Big Mystery element dealing with the Collectors' sole interest in the human race, when, as Shepard points out, the reapers were trying to harvest everyone.
Frankly, the only reason why these things ceased to be major is because they were abandoned in the overarching plot. But, before ME3 came out, these things were actually important. Only now can people look at the trilogy as a whole and say this or that was just a small bit.
Yeah but in ME3, he admits he was never married.
Oh my god, I never heard him say he was never married, but then again, it was shocking to hear that he was even married in the first place when he was such a fanatic.
Oh my god, I never heard him say he was never married, but then again, it was shocking to hear that he was even married in the first place when he was such a fanatic.
I love Shepard's response to his admission.
"Conrad, if you have a weird shrine of me, I'm going to be very unhappy."
Oh my god, I never heard him say he was never married, but then again, it was shocking to hear that he was even married in the first place when he was such a fanatic.
I hate to steal HYR's response, but I can't help but feel it's the most appropraite:
I mean, let's just look at the issues introduced in ME2 alone:
Project Lazarus, a potential source for some sort of existential crisis, used solely as an alignment and abilities reset button
Cerberus' explosion to a majorly powerful faction (everyone accuses ME3 of this, but ME2 is where it began)
The Council's total backslide on acknowledgement of the reapers, even to Commander Shepard in the privacy of the human councilor's office
The sudden existence of the Collectors
Human genetic diversity (tying into the DE concept)
The human reaper
Arrival, in which the reapers, for some reason, put a giant beacon on an asteroid that can give people visions of their impending arrival.
The reapers' ability to simply make their way toward the galaxy within the course of just a couple of years, making Sovereign's suicidal run to the Citadel seem rather foolish
You forgot something: ME1 did not exist for people on the PS3. Hence ME2 was a great place to start. lol. It was only a year later when they came out with "Genesis" which allowed people to go through ME1 events prior to playing ME2. However, this DLC didn't always work on the initial play. Sometimes it only worked on the New Game + mode.
And because starting at ME2 worked so well they decided that ME3 was the best place to start.
The Dark Energy thing was an idea they were kicking around, another was synthetics and organics.
And Here's the Main Theme: We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it. You will end because we demand it.
(And Kaidan figures it out - "They're harvesting us: letting us advance to the level they need, and then wiping us out.")
Shepard: "But you're taking away our hope. Our freedom. Without hope we might as well be machines."
Sovereign: "Your words are as empty as your future. I am the vanguard of your destruction. This exchange is over."
Did they need "organics vs. synthetics?" No. Did they need "dark energy?" No. I suppose in the end it was organics vs. synthetics because it was organics vs. Starbrat, the AI run amok.
I know what dark energy is, but its theoretical existence is not the issue. Even if it was just something made up for the trilogy, it wouldn't make a difference. However, I find your definition of "major story element" rather suspect, since many things in the games can have their presence in the story be reduced by opting out of specific dialogue or skipping entire missions.
Well, you had a problem with dark energy as a story element (until now?).
Anyway, a minor story element is not critical to the plot. You know, only mentioned a few times and only used in a completely optional side-quest. A major story element, however, is plot critical.
The dark energy problem was clearly the Big Mystery element that was building in the story. A star experiencing billions of years of aging before its time is actually quite a big deal, and it was mentioned enough to be a memorable part of the game.
Dark energy was mentioned a few times in Mass Effect 2 and used in a side quest, but it wasn't critical to the plot and one could only speculate if it could ever become part of the overarching plot.
It doesn't matter though, dark energy theoretically exists, so it is absolutely fine that it was used as a story element in ME2. An overarching plot with dark energy engulfing the galaxy or something like that, was never used in Mass Effect. That's it really.
As for human genetic diversity, it's a big part of Maelon's experimentation, since he's using humans to formulate a cure for the genophage. However, major or not, the idea of humans being unique because of their genetic diversity is a terrible concept that should have died on the drawing board.
I thought it was only mentioned in ME3 when the genophage was cured. My bad.
It is certainly a pretty weak story element. Maybe it would have been better if they fleshed it out some more, or maybe not, I dunno. It is a good thing it was only mentioned in a completely optional side-quest though.
Then you have the other Big Mystery element dealing with the Collectors' sole interest in the human race, when, as Shepard points out, the reapers were trying to harvest everyone.
Frankly, the only reason why these things ceased to be major is because they were abandoned in the overarching plot. But, before ME3 came out, these things were actually important. Only now can people look at the trilogy as a whole and say this or that was just a small bit.
The Reapers harvest all the races when they reenter the galaxy, they don't build hybrid Reapers either. The Reapers wanted the Collectors to build a new Reaper with a human core, so the Collectors harvested humans to build a single human (non-hybrid) Reaper.
We could only speculate as to why the Reapers wanted to do this. I personally thought it was because Reapers considered humankind to be the apex race of galactic civilization (which is why they wanted to build a human Reaper) and also required a new Reaper Vanguard to do their bidding.
Anyway, the answer to those questions, and also as to why Reapers even harvest organics, was supposed to be revealed in ME3. Sadly, the writers just declared the suicide mission and an extremely large portion of ME2 as completely inconsequential. Like you mentioned, these story elements were actually important before ME3; like I have already written numerous times, the problem is that ME3 substantially disregards continuity. Bioware should have concluded the story in the direction as it was laid out in ME1 and ME2, i'm sure they could have come up with something very interesting and satisfying if they would have actually tried.
I say it again: IMHO a war with the reapers wasn't part of the story, we were supposed to kil them while they were in stasis outside the galaxy.
Thread title. Why do the Reapers attack everywhere in the galaxy around the Citadel, but not the Citadel itself? I mean sure, you could say Shepard stopped that from happening in the first game, but that was just one reaper.
The Reapers priority is to assimilate civilizations, so they target homeworlds first. Maybe eventually they would congregate at the Citadel.
Thread title. Why do the Reapers attack everywhere in the galaxy around the Citadel, but not the Citadel itself? I mean sure, you could say Shepard stopped that from happening in the first game, but that was just one reaper.
The Reapers priority is to assimilate civilizations, so they target homeworlds first. Maybe eventually they would congregate at the Citadel.
The problem with that idea is that this assimilation process involves encapsulating data within each individual reaper, and in attacking the galaxy on all fronts, rather than trying to cut the relay network off and isolate their prey, many were lost as a result, as was the data. But I suppose that also goes to the problem with using the same vessels of information as the vehicles of war/harvest/whatever.
In a lore-friendly answer, Humakt83 summed it up quite well. In a realistic answer: the game would've been pretty short.
I am more curious about where the crucible was the whole time and how it was kept a secret. It's not impossible just seems unlikely but perhaps there is a story to be told about that in the future.
Somewhere between star systems would be a fair guess. If you stay as far away as you can from a mass relay and stick around systems with little to no interest, the chances of being spotted are fairly remote.
Anyway, the answer to those questions, and also as to why Reapers even harvest organics, was supposed to be revealed in ME3. Sadly, the writers just declared the suicide mission and an extremely large portion of ME2 as completely inconsequential. Like you mentioned, these story elements were actually important before ME3; like I have already written numerous times, the problem is that ME3 substantially disregards continuity. Bioware should have concluded the story in the direction as it was laid out in ME1 and ME2, i'm sure they could have come up with something very interesting and satisfying if they would have actually tried.
I don't think that's really true, the only elements of ME2 that could actually have been of any consequence were brought into ME3, as quite major story arcs. Tuchanka in particular was probably the best example of the import feature imo, with stuff going back as far as ME1 affecting the arc in a big way. Then there was Rannoch, and Cerberus, not that all of these arcs don't have problems. Aside from that, what actually was of any consequence in ME2? What do the squad's various daddy issues and personal grudges actually matter, really? Shep being killed was literally just to give us a reason to work with Cerberus.
ME2 is where the big disconnect in the story happened if you ask me. The Reapers were barely touched upon and the means to actually defeat them wasn't even brought up. Maybe the Human Reaper should have been more important, but then ME2 shouldn't have even given us the option to blow the thing up.
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