My only issue is putting her on the throne alone. Or with unhardened Alistair. Hardened Alistair and Anora is my go to ending. She doesn't walk all over him, and they see each other as equals.
I'm quite tempted to make that my canon ending. The Warden king who marries Anora is nice, but he loses Leliana eventually 
I'm still bouncing around between those two endings.
I don't consider it a personal betrayal. I consider it a betrayal of the wardens.
Meh the wardens getting betrayed means nothing to me but yes it is.
A betrayal the warden him/herself can do which really is another reason I don't take it that seriously. Pretty sure going through that mirror with Morrigan (or wherever the hell the warden vanishes off to if it's willing) counts as desertion.
I never let her rule alone if that's any consolation. Alistair and Anora together is my canon. One's ruthless and efficient; the other is charismatic and approachable. They balance each other out nicely.
XD I can agree with you on this.
I'm quite tempted to make that my canon ending. The Warden king who marries Anora is nice, but he loses Leliana eventually
I'm still bouncing around between those two endings.
Well my canon HN did that and had Loghain kill archie and romanced Leli so hopefully there's some mentions of that in the next game.
Yeah it's my personal golden ending. Hardened Leli, Hardened Ali and Anora, Loghain feeds Archie, Morrigan is told to GTFO, and then my elf mage is made a Teyrn. I imagine she walked around with a smug U MAD face to all the scandalized nobles. XD
Well my canon HN did that and had Loghain kill archie and romanced Leli so hopefully there's some mentions of that in the next game.
Yeah it's my personal golden ending. Hardened Leli, Hardened Ali and Anora, Loghain feeds Archie, Morrigan is told to GTFO, and then my elf mage is made a Teyrn. I imagine she walked around with a smug U MAD face to all the scandalized nobles. XD
Does Alistair like the warden again if Loghain sacrifices himself?
Does Alistair like the warden again if Loghain sacrifices himself?
Not if romanced. 
I think he's a bit more approachable if you were just friends.
Not if romanced. LOL
I think he's a bit more approachable if you were just friends.
But he isn't as pissed like he is when you do the DR and Loghain is still alive?
But he isn't as pissed like he is when you do the DR and Loghain is still alive?
Nah he's a bit more chill I think he says something like it's justice of a sort. I think. It's been a while since I played that ending.
Meh the wardens getting betrayed means nothing to me but yes it is.
A betrayal the warden him/herself can do which really is another reason I don't take it that seriously. Pretty sure going through that mirror with Morrigan (or wherever the hell the warden vanishes off to if it's willing) counts as desertion.
XD I can agree with you on this.
Some may call it desertion. I call it some well earned vacation time.
But seriously, there's a difference between abandoning the war effort right as the Blight is bearing down on everyone and stepping through a portal after the mess has been cleaned up.
There were better ways for Alistair to handle the situation. Obviously he's emotional and not thinking clearly, which is part of the problem. But he could have simply gotten transferred to another nation as far away from Loghain as possible. Or he could have waited until after dealing with the archdemon before defecting; wouldn't even have to fight side by side with the warden and Loghain.
Does Alistair like the warden again if Loghain sacrifices himself?
I haven't done that particular one(in the one playthrough where Loghain sacrificed himself, I had Alistair executed), but I'd imagine he'd be more pissed, because no Loghain's going to be remembered as a hero.
Oh well. Six months later and him and the warden are at least back to cracking jokes with each other.
Nah he's a bit more chill I think he says something like it's justice of a sort. I think. It's been a while since I played that ending.
Well I suppose I was mistaken.
Nah he's a bit more chill I think he says something like it's justice of a sort. I think. It's been a while since I played that ending.
Sounds good to me.
Warden: "So hey! Its a happy ending!"
Alistair: "Yup, its just a big old goddamm fairy tale..."
Warden: "Fairy tale? Uh, phrasing?"
*Alistair gets up and leaves*
Warden: "Al, I'm kidding! Don't be like that!
*Alistair keeps walking*
Warden: "Al!..... Al!.....Al!......Okay fine then I guess just pout!"
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Oh well. Six months later and him and the warden are at least back to cracking jokes with each other.
LOL he does seem to have gotten over it by Awakening. Still probably hates Loghain, but takes comfort in the fact that he was transferred to Monstimmard. Hell I bet Alistair was behind that one. An informal request from the King of Ferelden would probably be important enough to get the attention of the First Warden.
LOL he does seem to have gotten over it by Awakening. Still probably hates Loghain, but takes comfort in the fact that he was transferred to Monstimmard. Hell I bet Alistair was behind that one. A an informal request from the King of Ferelden would probably be important enough to get the attention of the First Warden.
I remember a friend of mine telling me how Alistair does indeed still hate Loghain in DA 2.
Alistair: "Its a shame he's still alive."
Some may call it desertion. I call it some well earned vacation time.
But seriously, there's a difference between abandoning the war effort right as the Blight is bearing down on everyone and stepping through a portal after the mess has been cleaned up.
There were better ways for Alistair to handle the situation. Obviously he's emotional and not thinking clearly, which is part of the problem. But he could have simply gotten transferred to another nation as far away from Loghain as possible. Or he could have waited until after dealing with the archdemon before defecting; wouldn't even have to fight side by side with the warden and Loghain.
XD
Oh I agree. I'm just pointing out he's hardly the only one breaking rules 
Honestly I think Alistair left because he knew he wouldn't be able to resist attacking Loghain and really what would that result in other than drama and ruining the warden's group stability. I mean...just look at him in the landsmeet. He's willing to take the crown if unhardened (something that he really doesn't want) just to kill the man. As for transfers probably would've taken way too long.
There are better ways for him to handle the situation yes. But he's young, he's frustrated and he sees Loghain as being rewarded (yes we know the Wardens aren't a reward but in Alistair's mind it is). So yeah if Alistair was someone other than Alistair he would've handled it differently. But Loghain could've handled plenty of things differently as well (like not blaming the wardens for his **** and attempting to kill them for doing their jobs).
Sounds good to me.
Warden: "So hey! Its a happy ending!"
Alistair: "Yup, its just a big old goddamm fairy tale..."
Warden: "Fairy tale? Uh, phrasing?"
*Alistair gets up and leaves*
Warden: "Al, I'm kidding! Don't be like that!
*Alistair keeps walking*
Warden: "Al!..... Al!.....Al!......Okay fine then I guess just pout!"
lawl
Yeah I'd hope and my PC eventually went back to being friends after that. T_T they'd been through too much.
I never let her rule alone if that's any consolation. Alistair and Anora together is my canon. One's ruthless and efficient; the other is charismatic and approachable. They balance each other out nicely.
I admit they do, and it's not like I haven't done it a few times in the past, I just don't anymore,
I remember a friend of mine telling me how Alistair does indeed still hate Loghain in DA 2.
Alistair: "Its a shame he's still alive."
Something along those lines, yea.
lawl
Yeah I'd hope and my PC eventually went back to being friends after that. T_T they'd been through too much.
I like to think that he and the warden do become friends again eventually.
Because it did pain me to see him go
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I like to think that he and the warden do become friends again eventually.
Because it did pain me to see him go
Not me. He got the gig of a lifetime thanks to me. He just hadn't realized it yet because of all his feels.
Not me. He got the gig of a lifetime thanks to me. He just hadn't realized it yet because of all his feels.
I meant when he leaves if only Anora is on the throne or when the warden marries her.
I meant when he leaves if only Anora is on the throne or when the warden marries her.
Him becoming a drunk is so sad. I guess he ends up being Oghren 2.0
Him becoming a drunk is so sad. I guess he ends up being Oghren 2.0
Well, he does get saved by Teagan 
Well, he does get saved by Teagan
Another reason I 
Teagan.
That and he doesn't do the stupid OMG ELF like nearly everyone (yeah even Loghain did that crap to my poor CE) else does. And he was charming enough
(Also Loghain's "you're rather pretty." to my CE was awkward. The elf fetish is real).
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Well, he does get saved by Teagan
It'd be funny if you imported Drunk!Alistair into DA:I and you see him fighting demons at Redcliffe while drunk.
It'd be funny if you imported Drunk!Alistair into DA:I and you see him fighting demons at Redcliffe while drunk.
I'm definitely curious how Drunk!Alistair is gonna turn out in DA:I!
Right after you give him the middle finger and make friends with the man who did many nasty things. (seriously how many times do i have to go over this)
I'm definitely curious how Drunk!Alistair is gonna turn out in DA:I!
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