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[Jazzpha]

My arguments are based on logic and reason. Your arguments are based on emotion. Your tranquil would agree with me.

 

Nice evocation of rhetorical appeals. Reminds me of what I'm going to be teaching again in a month or so.

 

Back on topic: I can hardly fault Loghain for making the most reasonable choices he could in a chaotic situation that demanded immediate action, in the face of having to deal with limited information. He was stuck in a "lesser of two evils" bind, and he did what he thought he had to do to solve the problems at hand.

 

The fact that Loghain completely owns up to having committed horrible actions (provided you recruit him) and fully excepts any and all kind of judgment from the Warden upon the completion of the Main Quest (including execution, if the Warden feels like it) speaks volumes about Loghain's character.

[Spicen]

My arguments are based on logic and reason. Your arguments are based on emotion. Your tranquil would agree with me.

Yeah sympathizing for elves against slavery is emotional. I was weak about Eamon, shud hav let jowan finish his job.
Ofcourse loghain too calculated that orlesians were more dangerous than darkspawn. They are some boogeymen right. Ofcourse NO emotion was there in his decisions. Im very impressed

[Shark17676]

Admitting "I've done farked up!" after the fact, and only when he's beaten, does absolutely nothing to absolve him of the atrocities he committed, all in the name of his own personal grudges and paranoia.  He's still a terrible person -- one that almost doomed the entire world.

[Spicen]

Nice evocation of rhetorical appeals. Reminds me of what I'm going to be teaching again in a month or so.

Back on topic: I can hardly fault Loghain for making the most reasonable choices he could in a chaotic situation that demanded immediate action, in the face of having to deal with limited information. He was stuck in a "lesser of two evils" bind, and he did what he thought he had to do to solve the problems at hand.

The fact that Loghain completely owns up to having committed horrible actions (provided you recruit him) and fully excepts any and all kind of judgment from the Warden upon the completion of the Main Quest (including execution, if the Warden feels like it) speaks volumes about Loghain's character.

Attempting to poison eamon, selling elves to the tevinter, torturing templars, denying any responsibility for cailan's death, placing the blame on the wardens, sending an assassin to kill YOUR warden spoke novels about his character. You im sure folk like wud support that scum even if he killed ur warden.

[Elite Midget]

 

Admitting "I've done farked up!" after the fact, and only when he's beaten, does absolutely nothing to absolve him of the atrocities he committed, all in the name of his own personal grudges and paranoia.  He's still a terrible person -- one that almost doomed the entire world.

 

Funny how Loghain doesn't get a pass but Isabela gets a pass all the time when she nearly brought about a war between religions that would have killed millions.

 

Guess if he was a LI and could be bedded and possibly be a hot woman then he may have been given the benefit of the doubt too?

[Spicen]

Admitting "I've done farked up!" after the fact, and only when he's beaten, does absolutely nothing to absolve him of the atrocities he committed, all in the name of his own personal grudges and paranoia. He's still a terrible person -- one that almost doomed the entire world.

You know we live in a world where ur supposed to support and bootlick the very guy that sent asassins to kill u. If i was the warden given the choice i wud let the darkspawn ****** on fereldan. this is wat shud happen to ungrateful people.

[Jazzpha]

Funny how Loghain doesn't get a pass but Isabela gets a pass all the time when she nearly brought about a war between religions that would have killed millions.

 

Guess if he was a LI and could be bedded and possibly be a hot woman may have given him the benefit of the doubt?

[Spicen]

Funny how Loghain doesn't get a pass but Isabela gets a pass all the time when she nearly brought about a war between religions that would have killed millions.

Guess if he was a LI and could be bedded and possibly be a hot woman may have given him the benefit of the doubt?

I wanted to punish her but the qunari? Thats worse than murder. Plus i dont remember her killing my mentor or any of my companion.
+ THeres a woman called leliana who is waiting for impending head rolling. So gender is not the factor. A scum who couped to take power is.

[Elite Midget]

Isn't living as a Warden arguably worse than execution. Bethany seems to think so...  

Well, Bethany is a warden for quite a bit of years and is lower on the food chain. She doesn't have the circumstances to be made Warden Commander in a years time and pretty much get to do what she wants like the DA:O Warden gets to.

[Spicen]

Isn't living as a Warden arguably worse than execution. Bethany seems to think so...

Yeah, ill bring the knives u bring ur warden.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Classic Loghain thread, you mention his name then somebody mentions how much they hate him and they always kill him then somebody else defends him then somebody disagrees with the defence and it all goes from there.

 

I have to give Bioware props for creating Loghain, his easily one of their best and most morally grey character.

[Shark17676]

Funny how Loghain doesn't get a pass but Isabela gets a pass all the time when she nearly brought about a war between religions that would have killed millions.

 

Guess if he was a LI and could be bedded and possibly be a hot woman then he may have been given the benefit of the doubt too?

 

It's funny, because you're actually preaching to the choir on that one.

 

Isabela is the only character I hate worse than Loghain.  She's an absolute monster.

[Spicen]

Classic Loghain thread, you mention his name then somebody mentions how much they hate him and they always kill him then somebody else defends him then somebody disagrees with the defence and it all goes from there.

I have to give Bioware props for creating Loghain, his easily one of their best and most morally grey character.

Hes only gay coz of thay novel. He is no less than a lunatic, deluded, power hungry guy who would destroy his country just to keep foreigners out og it.

[Elite Midget]

It's funny, because you're actually preaching to the choir on that one.

 

Isabela is the only character I hate worse than Loghain.  She's an absolute monster.

Talking about most players that kill Loghain but don't kill or screw over Isabela.

 

If she was a man who was even 100% gay than I'm sure that far more would toss have "Isabela" off to the side for sure considering the main audience.

[Master Warder Z_]

I like Loghain

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Hes only gay coz of thay novel. He is no less than a lunatic, deluded, power hungry guy who would destroy his country just to keep foreigners out og it.

 

Loghain ain't gay so I don't know what that has to do with anything and I liked him before even reading the book so you're wrong about the novel part too.

[Spicen]

Talking about most players that kill Loghain but don't kill or screw over Isabela.

If she was a man who was even 100% gay than I'm sure that far more would toss have "Isabela" off to the side for sure considering the main audience.

stop bringing others into this. Not all guys r boob crazy spiders

[Spicen]

Loghain ain't gay so I don't know what that has to do with anything and I liked him before even reading the book so you're wrong about the novel part too.

Grey i meant grey.

[Spicen]

I like Loghain

Then get killed by his assassins. Im sure he will avoid pissing on ur grave

[Samahl]

Talking about most players that kill Loghain but don't kill or screw over Isabela.

 

Some of which include people who metagame and don't want to lose Alistair.

[Elite Midget]

stop bringing others into this. Not all guys r boob crazy spiders

Not saying that but the fact is that many of those that feel they were right for killing Loghain ended up sparing Isabela and she's treated like a goddess, especially in fan works. 

 

Anders gets a lot of god treatment after blowing up the Chantry too but nowhere near the goddess and forgiveness treatment that Isabela gets.

 

 

Some of which include people who meta-game and don't want to lose Alistair.

I doubt many meta-game on the first playthrough hence why all the "Alistair leaves!?" stuff that pops up after the fact.

[Spicen]

Not saying that but the fact is that many of those that feel they were right for killing Loghain ended up sparing Isabela and she's treated like a goddess, especially in fan works.

dont know dont care. no one dared to take a look at my hawke's crotch.

[Samahl]

I doubt many meta-game on the first playthrough hence why all the "Alistair leaves!?" stuff that pops up after the fact.

 

I reloaded my save on my first playthrough after it happened. Do I not count?

[Master Warder Z_]

Then get killed by his assassins. Im sure he will avoid pissing on ur grave

 

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