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[emaughan]

I know they had reserves before they went bad and they kidnap, but they have to run out eventually right? I can see TIM with his troll grin on.

[Reorte]

Bit of Reapery stuff shoved in to them, it's mentioned on Cronos Station.

[JasonShepard]

Reaper upgrades can apparently turn panicked refugees into decent troops in a relatively short time. Slap some mass produced armour on them (which seems to lack kinetic barriers) and you've got yourself a cheap army. Of course, before panicked refugees were widely available, they probably used a mixture of their own loyalists and hired mercs.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Reaper tech makes them into loyal soldiers (and gives them instant training?). No idea how they get the armor, weapons, air/space support, food, etc.

[KaiserShep]

No idea how they get the armor, weapons, air/space support, food, etc.

 

Armor is probably one of those things that are so widely available and affordable that it doesn't really matter. In all likelihood, the Cerberus troopers use run of the mill cheap crap, while being supported by more specialized combatants like engineers, phantoms, nemeses and centurions. As for air support, it's likely that they have quite a few shuttles on hand, and shuttles are FTL capable, so a ship or a couple of ships could launch a few of these things in any given system, and really, we don't really see Cerberus everywhere at once (unless multiplayer counts). As for food, I dunno what the deal is with these pseudohusk troopers and whether or not they actually require food, but they could very well be kept alive on some sort of paste designed to meet the basic requirements for the human body.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

Apparently, from one source I read, they used clones of Paul Grayson alongside their normal convertees.

[Ribosome]

By means of clever writing

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The Illusive Man has a credit printing machine. During times of galactic crisis it makes money no problem. Like he said, it's always a matter of resources.

[SwobyJ]

Getting hundreds to thousands isn't that hard when one is actively recruiting from millions and forcibly integrating people into ranks (bypassing years of training needed).

[KaiserShep]

The Illusive Man has a credit printing machine. During times of galactic crisis it makes money no problem. Like he said, it's always a matter of resources.

 

Cerberus Accountant: Illusive Man, you can't just fabricate your own currency to burn through. As we speak, the volus are broiling in their suits. 

 

Illusive Man: Of course I can. With endless funding, comes endless possibilities.

 

Cerberus Accountant: I...you...DO YOU EVEN ECONOMICS?

[Iakus]

The Illusive Man has a credit printing machine. During times of galactic crisis it makes money no problem. Like he said, it's always a matter of resources.

 

You've heard of Bison Dollars?  They've got nothing on TIM Bucks!

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

You've heard of Bison Dollars?  They've got nothing on TIM Bucks!

 

Accountant = This money is not even worth the paper it is printed on!

 

TIM = On the contary, every TIM-buck will be worth five bison dollars, for that will be the exchange rate once I kidnap the Alliance prime minister.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Accountant = This money is not even worth the paper it is printed on!

 

TIM = On the contary, every TIM-buck will be worth five bison dollars, for that will be the exchange rate once I kidnap the Alliance prime minister.

 

And once that was done there would be TIM-buck-two.

[SporkFu]

Thanks to Project Lazarus, TIM gets a credit every time someone goes shopping on the citadel and hears, "I'm commander shepard, and this is my favorite store on the citadel." 

 

Think about that the next time you play ME2. You could be funding terrorism. 

[Excella Gionne]

I believe Garrus's words went something like offering them food and shelter and then shoving them up the meat grinder. I'm surprised Garrus even knew what a meat grinder was. 

 

Anyways, indoctrination is one hell of way to get troops. With as many multiplayer matches against Cerberus, I'm surprised they still have troops.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

With as many Firebase White Geth matches I played, it was amazing the Quarians weren't able to just waltz back onto Rannoch and settle in their old cities.

[SwobyJ]

Its also made pretty clear that Cerberus has elements is pretty much all major human corporations, even when it isn't using them as direct puppets.

 

Essentially, over the course of several years, they gained the ability to pretty much print money and use it on projects, that while limited in initial scope, also went far beyond anything that the Citadel species and Alliance would attempt.

 

Alliance looked the other way for a while, got antagonistic for a shorter while, and then finally went "NOW you're our avowed enemies, since you're messing up our Crucible project to kill Reapers and abducting humans yourself now." (lol 'rogue elements', fine), which yeah does strike as a bit hypocritical.

[Excella Gionne]

With as many Firebase White Geth matches I played, it was amazing the Quarians weren't able to just waltz back onto Rannoch and settle in their old cities.

One geth alive means possible geth invasion. As long as one geth fights the war, the geth have not lost. :-)

[zestalyn]

Reaper tech makes them into loyal soldiers (and gives them instant training?)

Lol instant training  for what that's worth, it's no wonder why those guys are so easy to kill. 

but it's sad to think so many of them were just innocent refugees. 

[themikefest]

TAKING CASUALTIES

[Farangbaa]

Reaper Tech works like downloading Kung-Fun in the Matrix.

 

Get with the times people, geez.

[emaughan]

Apparently, from one source I read, they used clones of Paul Grayson alongside their normal convertees.

 

 

Clones. That makes sense

[emaughan]

TAKING CASUALTIES

 

 

Even though we have like, 10000000000000000000 more troops here.....

[ImaginaryMatter]

Lol instant training  for what that's worth, it's no wonder why those guys are so easy to kill. 

but it's sad to think so many of them were just innocent refugees. 

 

I also found it funny how TIM goes on about how they've been "improved" -- although I guess by that point he is off in loony Indoctrination land -- when the troopers all have very questionable decision making capabilities without a noticeable increase in combat aptitude.

[Jukaga]

It's made pretty clear in game that they get their forces by

 

1. Recruiting from sympathetic populations

2. Press-ganging colonists

and

3. Indoctrinating both groups with Reaper tech in their skulls.

 

The numbers of Cerberus troopers is not, I repeat not an unbelievable 'Sith Empire' retcon, they don't really have that many that we see.