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Shepard's timeline or not, does everybody really want to play an N7 again?


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#76
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It depends on what N7 means this time around.

I'd like something a bit more divergent than a "rehash" of Mass Effect 1. That's what made ME2 refreshing, despite the relatively minimalistic narrative - you were still serving the greater good, but under a scenario that jettisoned the classic Rise-To-Power-By-A-Council-Of-Whoever.

If they're going to stick with N7, I'd reccomend taking it in a direction that twists the Space Marine outline in unexpected directions.

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I would love to play as N7.

I think it would be amazing to actually start the game as an Alliance Marine who gets invited into N7, and you start as N1 and work your way up.  It would make sense, as when you eventually hit N6 I believe you get more freedom and get your own ship and assets.  Nothing close to what Spectres get, but more or less the Alliance's equivalent. 


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Yes. I like that elite unit. Also BioWare could make that when somebody see N7 logo he/she gives him more respect.



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SwobyJ

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Seems impossible.

 

Unless you bend the rules of time.

 

Doesn't even need to do that.



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Yes it does, it would be balls otherwise.



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Meh, no.

 

With a bit of editing, the same VA can play a krogan or a turian. It wouldn't take a lot to make the game Origin style, with options of race being available.

 

Asari Commando / Krogan Aralakh / Turian Legionnaire / N7 Human.

 

If they did that, I'd put up even with a Shepard timeline.

 

But an N7 human, again? Ugh. No.



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Being an N7 does not insult me until i know the story. Why shitcrap about it until i know somethiing about it.



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Obviously Bioware wants to make something out of the N7 program, other than showing a simple logo. It might relate to humanity shedding blood to stop big threats like they did with the Reapers. Humanity sacrifice may be a theme in ME4 as well as unity. I am hoping with the new protagonist can adopt a more pro-human stance, going beyond Shepard's pro-human stance being replaced by a cross-specie unity stance.



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See, here's the issue I take with the new protagonist being N7...

 

Shepard was not a static character. We all had our own, they made different choices, were different classes, sexes, and even looked differently from one another. However, the one thing identifying factor they all had in common was the N7 logo. Sure, we are told about other N7s, and Vega even gets a tattoo of the insignia, but throughout the campaign, N7 was strictly Shepard's identifying mark. On his or her armor, in the head's up display at the bottom of the screen, N7 meant Shepard. Even on Vega, the logo in a way symbolizes Shepard's relationship with Vega, with Vega looking up to the Commander. Sure, there are other N7s out there, and it has a very defined meaning in-universe as Military Vocational Code, however, to us, the players, we do, and are meant to, associate it with Shepard. Hell, the only only character in the single player series we ever see wearing actual N7 armor is Legion, and even THAT was once Shepard's armor.

 

Now, we've been told numerous times that Shepard's story is, for better or worse, over with, yes? His trilogy is done, buried, and we're moving on. Alright, that's all well and good, and personally, rather welcome.

 

But then we're told that the new character is going to be an N7.

 

If you think about it, suddenly there is a bit of a slant to things here and a few wires are getting crossed, even if it's just on a subconscious level. We are told we are moving on from Shepard, yet our new protagonist is going to be wearing what has come to be known as Shepard's sole identifying logo? We are trying to move on from Shepard, and yet by doing this, players are going to be reminded whenever they see their new protagonist wearing this armor that it is, in fact, not-Shepard. We are supposed to be moving on, but how can we when the new protagonist is going to constantly be measured up to what he is labeled as, but is in fact not?

 

Now I know what some of you are thinking, right? You're thinking that it's kind of a silly thing to get all bent out of shape over, I mean, there ARE other N7s out there, even if we don't see them, what's the harm in playing a new character wearing a symbol that the fans recognize as being as much their own as it is of their playable protagonist? To that, I posit this. Imagine if this new character was going to be a Spectre, something else Shepard was defined for through much of the series, would that also be a problem? I don't think so. Shepard was a Spectre, sure, but he wasn't THE Spectre. We met plenty of Spectres throughout the series. Nihlus, Saren, Bau, and Vasir. Being a Spectre was a quality of Shepard's, but it wasn't his identity.

 

The N7 symbol, however, is a different story. It IS Shepard's sole canon identifying mark, and whenever it isn't seen on him, it IS seen by something that is related to him, Multi-Player not withstanding. Anything you slap N7 on is instantly going to associate it with Shepard. Even if it's on a subconscious level, it's still going to be there.

 

And so slapping Shepard's symbol on a new character we are specifically trying to divorce from Shepard is a bit of a problem. I mean, if we're going to be playing an N7 again, why can't we just play as Shepard (Yes, because he's dead in two out of the three endings, I know, but you see my point)? I mean, we're going to be running around in a Mako like Shepard, we're going to be shooting stuff like Shepard, and now we're going to wearing Shepard's mark on our chests, right?

 

The point I'm trying to make is this: I'm all for a new protagonist and new adventures. I'm excited for it, even. But you can't tell me you want to make a new game that isn't about Shepard then make a character that might as well BE Shepard as the protagonist and honestly expect me to think you don't see why there might be some dissonance there.

 

If we're going to be playing a new character, give him a new insignia or something. Make him or her something other than another jar head. I mean, I think it's cool you're going for less of a soldier appearance and more for an explorer/astronaut vibe, I think that's great! But it kind of doesn't work when you make the character another Special Forces Marine who for all intents and purposes looks might as well be the exact same character we started the franchise as.

 

Maybe I'll be wrong in the end and this new character will have enough going for him that he is his own character separate from Shep. But I'm going to be very blunt and just come out and say it... some people are going to be looking at that N7 on his chest and forever measuring him up to Shepard even more than they were bound to do to start, especially given Shepard's unceremonious and often contested end at the end of 3.

 

It's too early to tell anything concrete, and that's alright, it's early still and I gather that Bioware is just feeling things out. On that note, however, I will simply conclude by saying seeing that we'll play another N7 human and what that insinuates leaves me feeling a sense of trepidation regarding the identity of the new protagonist and whatever story is going to be told through him.



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See it's actually Shepard. As Legion fooled us all and completely scanned Shepards mind and the Geth built a robot body download it to. That robot went on to fight the Reapers while the real Shepard left to find a way to stop Reapers outside the Milky Way.

 

 

 

What... :whistle:

 

 

 

Come on you know it could work...right?...right?

 

 

:unsure:



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"does everybody really want to play an N7 again?"

 

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See it's actually Shepard. As Legion fooled us all and completely scanned Shepards mind and the Geth built a robot body download it to. That robot went on to fight the Reapers while the real Shepard left to find a way to stop Reapers outside the Milky Way.

 

 

 

What... :whistle:

 

 

 

Come on you know it could work...right?...right?

 

 

:unsure:

 

I would say there is no way in hell this could happen because it is completely illogical, but, you know, Synthesis is a thing, so I guess anything is possible...



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I was hoping I'd get to be a Turian.  :(



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I don't necessarily want to play N7, but I'm ok with it.

 

I really don't want to have a race option because it cheapens the story for me.

 

But of course the most important thing is character development. The new guy may be N7, but they may make him/her likeable like they did with the characters of the original trilogy.



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It's N7, there's a Mako, there's no Shepard..

 

"take from that what you will"

 

lol

 

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@..'Sexy Boy' - I want racial selection in a Mass game. I just don't need it for this next game (or mayyybe two games, maybe). I wouldn't mind one (or twooo) games that act as a passing of the torch to the wider galaxy to do their thing, but still have a (more) centralized protagonist identity until then.



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As long as it's a different kind of N7. Not so enthusiastic about playing as an exact copy of Shepard. But I'm sure BioWare will make the right move.


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#92
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The whole N7 thing, to me, seems pretty superficial. Beyond the logo, nothing really relates to Shepard. I mean, in ME1, you were introduced to the idea of the protagonist becoming a Spectre rather early, and then becoming one became entirely necessary for the plot to continue, so almost immediately, you were now a Spectre, and then lived outside of the Alliance for an entire game, then automatically retained Spectre status in the third. The only time Shepard even talks about being an N7 in the entire trilogy is if he/she talks to Vega about him becoming one.


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The whole N7 thing, to me, seems pretty superficial. Beyond the logo, nothing really relates to Shepard. I mean, in ME1, you were introduced to the idea of the protagonist becoming a Spectre rather early, and then becoming one became entirely necessary for the plot to continue, so almost immediately, you were now a Spectre, and then lived outside of the Alliance for an entire game, then automatically retained Spectre status in the third. The only time Shepard even talks about being an N7 in the entire trilogy is if he/she talks to Vega about him becoming one.

 

This. While Shepard retains N7 status after becoming a Spectre, (s)he doesn't do any N7 stuff in the entire trilogy, except for the first 30 minutes of ME1. So the better question would be "do you want to do the same stuff you did in ME1-3".



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While Shepard retains N7 status after becoming a Spectre, (s)he doesn't do any N7 stuff in the entire trilogy

 

lolwut? then what do you call those pointless crappy ME3 missions like Cerberus lab on Sanctum, civilian attacks on Benning, ancient Tuchanka cannon or that communications hub? mind you, most of them are also labelled N7 in the journal.



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No,not really. Not at all.



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Something other than human military would have been nice, but really, I'm N7 indifferent.



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lolwut? then what do you call those pointless crappy ME3 missions like Cerberus lab on Sanctum, civilian attacks on Benning, ancient Tuchanka cannon or that communications hub? mind you, most of them are also labelled N7 in the journal.

 

Fair enough. But they're only about an hour worth of content combined, representing about 0.5% of the trilogy.

KaiserShep's and my argument was that the trilogy was not about Shep being an N7, and that point still stands.



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I thought they said it will not be another Shepard or similar? 

 

Human N7 military 

 

Seems similar to Shepard and to be honest I do not think they can make a sequel to Mass effect 3 or make any game that takes place after the events of such. I bet this one is before the events of the third with Shepard which is a bummer I guess but they wrote themselves in that corner.



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After Guardians of the Galaxy, I want to be Starlord in Mass Effect.  A scavenger/smuggler/theif/pilot with his band of misfits.  :D


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We do not yet have the context of N7 confirmed.

 

You can say it means Alliance special forces with special distinction, but this will be a new game with a new story.


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