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[HK-90210]

I support the Grey Wardens in this conflict.

 

"Duty, sacrifice, *Yada yada, yada, something about being neutral* 'cus Blight"

 

Edit: Or the dwarves

 

"Man, the surface is fu**ed up."

[CuriousArtemis]

Nope, still love the Dalish the best  

[ButterRum]

Choosing between Briala or Celene would be WAY more interesting and dynamic than choosing between Celene or Gaspard. If Gaspard replaced Celene, it would still be Orlais, and the status quo wouldn't change much. If we chose Briala over Celene, then it would have a HUGE effect on Orlais and give the elves a power up. The elves in power in Orlais would really freak out the rest of Thedas, too. 

 

I don't think Briala and the elves could overtake Orlais alone, but the Inquisitor's help would definitely be game changing.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

He was trapped, but he could exercise his power certainly, hence my uncertainty that he was even "trapped" or rather just waiting for something interesting to happen and then be "freed".

That said the logic here is hilarious.

The Dalish left out a pound of C4 and a Detonator

Michel a man with no explosive knowledge comes and picks up said detonator and activates it.

Honestly, this would be a definite case of entrapment if it ever went to court, but whatever, He was a "dupe".

The wards dispelled Imshael's spell once anyone got close, he was still bound there unless someone let him out. And Michel was acting really stupid for messing with things he didn't understand and for taking the the word of a monster demon about how his own prison was.

[Urazz]

Choosing between Briala or Celene would be WAY more interesting and dynamic than choosing between Celene or Gaspard. If Gaspard replaced Celene, it would still be Orlais, and the status quo wouldn't change much. If we chose Briala over Celene, then it would have a HUGE effect on Orlais and give the elves a power up. The elves in power in Orlais would really freak out the rest of Thedas, too. 

 

I don't think Briala and the elves could overtake Orlais alone, but the Inquisitor's help would definitely be game changing.

I don't think you can get the elves to rule in Orlais but you can probably get them the Dales back is my guess.

[Master Warder Z_]

The wards dispelled Imshael's spell once anyone got close, he was still bound there unless someone let him out. And Michel was acting really stupid for messing with things he didn't understand and for taking the the word of a monster demon about how his own prison was.

 

Or The Mage who knew exactly what the demon was, knew exactly what would happen if Chevin disrupted the wards caused the interruption of that effect.

 

It's speculation regardless, but my eye goes not to the Dalish Barrier that was obviously so faulty even they realized it wasn't containing the Demonic influence of Ishmael. So in truth? I view the pseudo Dalish as the true one at fault here, Chevin didn't know what he was doing that is true, but the one who did, didn't stop it, the one allowed it to even come to that, didn't stop it.

 

So in reality? Again i'd say the logic here is hilarious.

[Vroom Vroom]

It has, but who I support will depend on the type of character that I am playing. I feel like things will continue to be choatic in Orlais under Celene, I feel that if Gaspard ruled things would be more under control. If I am playing a character he cares about Ferelden, but not Orlais I'd choose Celene, seeing as how she'd have a hard time focusing on invading Ferelden with all the internal threats she faces. If I cared about Orlais I'd choose Gaspard because not only would he get the threats locked down, but he would seek to expand Orlais territory. In a real life scenario I feel like I would choose Gaspard because he is the most honorable of the two monsters, I'd choose an honorable monster over an out of control one, granted a monster is still a monster.  

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Or The Mage who knew exactly what the demon was, knew exactly what would happen if Chevin disrupted the wards caused the interruption of that effect.

It's speculation regardless, but my eye goes not to the Dalish Barrier that was obviously so faulty even they realized it wasn't containing the Demonic influence of Ishmael. So in truth? I view the pseudo Dalish as the true one at fault here, Chevin didn't know what he was doing that is true, but the one who did, didn't stop it, the one allowed it to even come to that, didn't stop it.

So in reality? Again i'd say the logic here is hilarious.

I did mention Felassan in my previous posts didn't I?

[ButterRum]

I don't think you can get the elves to rule in Orlais but you can probably get them the Dales back is my guess.

Yeah, I doubt we'll be able to choose between Briala or Celene ruling Orlais, but we might get to choose who gets the Dales, who the eluvians go to, etc.

Does anyone think the eluvians will be an explanation for fast traveling in the game?? I don't know how the Inquisitor could gain access to the eluvians early on, but who knows.

[Samahl]

Does anyone think the eluvians will be an explanation for fast traveling in the game?? I don't know how the Inquisitor could gain access to the eluvians early on, but who knows.

 

I doubt it, since only elves can travel through them without exerting themselves.

[ButterRum]

I made a thread but I should have just posted it in here. So here goes....

I finished the book and I have questions...

Why did both Gaspard and Chevin walk into the portal together and just leave the battle??

Why did Chevin ditch Celene?? Because he wasn't a true Chevalier because he was half elf??

Did Briala's change of heart with Celene happen when she ordered the army to stop the elven rebellion, or has this been Briala's plan all along?

Any speculation for who killed Felassen?

I'm confused about Lord Pierre's surrender. He was fighting FOR Celene and fighting AGAINST Gaspard's men, and he surrendered to Celene? And then Celene took her first city???

Some people think we'll have to choose between Gaspard or Celene, but after the book's ending, if seems they'll be forced to team together. Even Gaspard said so.

[Vapaa]

Why did both Gaspard and Chevin walk into the portal together and just leave the battle??

 

The fight was over; Gaspard was out and Michel yielded.

 

Why did Chevin ditch Celene?? Because he wasn't a true Chevalier because he was half elf??

 

To keep his word to Briala.

 

Did Briala's change of heart with Celene happen when she ordered the army to stop the elven rebellion, or has this been Briala's plan all along?

 

When she understand that it was Celene who ordered to kill her parents.

 

I'm confused about Lord Pierre's surrender. He fighting for Celene and fighting Gaspard's men, and he surrendered to Celene? And then Celene took her first city???

 

Pierre is someone who cares for his city, he surrended to Gaspard to spare it, but he was still somewhat loyal to Celene, when Celene came back, she ambushed him by making him go to the Winter palace by himself (what an idiot) so he had no choice but to surrender and with him, Halamshiral, he's not very brave.

 

Some people think we'll have to choose between Gaspard or Celene, but after the book's ending, if seems they'll be forced to team together. Even Gaspard said so.

 

On the contrary, it's made quite clear that the civil war will continue.

[ButterRum]

OH, I forgot about Chevin's deal with Briala. That makes a lot of sense.

Who thinks we'll see Briala in the game?? I really hope so. I would be surprised if she doesn't appear.

Does anyone want Briala and Celene back together? Those days seem long gone but they make a deliciously f'd up couple.

[Neesa]

To answer the topic question, no the book will not effect who my Inquisitor supports as she likely will not be aware of most of the events regarding the key players. That said, it will give an extra bit of anticipation as I have her make decisions entirely contrary to what I suspect will be appropriate.

 

I can't say I actually like any of the main characters involved, even though I did find them interesting to varying degrees.

 

As to who's to blame about Imshael being set upon the world...the fault for that is easily spread around I think. The Dalish clan (mainly the Keeper), Michel (essentially making the same mistake the Keeper did, thinking he could outsmart/outmaneuver a powerful Fade entity) and obviously Felassan (I fail to see what any supposed neutrality has to do with anything). 

[rolson00]

Did Briala's change of heart with Celene happen when she ordered the army to stop the elven rebellion, or has this been Briala's plan all along?

 

no it wasnt her paln all along rather Celene never showed any or that she even cared, so Braila made plans of her own.

[TheJediSaint]

I think Briala's actions were something that Felassan sort of convinced her to do while they were making their way through the Eluvian network.

Spoiler

I think figuring out that it was Celene who had her parents murdered was the main contributing factor to her making her own plans.

[Ashelsu]

I was going to side with Celine before reading the book, but she disappointed me greatly. I did not expect that the Empress of Orlais would be such a pathetic weakling. If she will not come to her senses during the Inquisition, in most cases, I will support Gaspard. Nothing personal, Celine, but I need a strong Orlais against Tevinter and Qunari.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Spoiler

I think figuring out that it was Celene who had her parents murdered was the main contributing factor to her making her own plans.

That was half of it. The other part was that she didn't believe Celene would or could keep her promise to give elves equal rights when it became politically difficult to enforce. Felassan told her that she could not count on Celene.

[rolson00]

That was half of it. The other part was that she didn't believe Celene would or could keep her promise to give elves equal rights when it became politically difficult to enforce. Felassan told her that she could not count on Celene.

Yes thats why in DA:I im not supporting her even if morrigan tells me a good reason id still know from the book thats Celene just cant be counted on to floore threw or even keep a simple promise. If she wont keep promises to the women she loves how can any of us trust her at all?

[LobselVith8]

OH, I forgot about Chevin's deal with Briala. That makes a lot of sense.

Who thinks we'll see Briala in the game?? I really hope so. I would be surprised if she doesn't appear.

Does anyone want Briala and Celene back together? Those days seem long gone but they make a deliciously f'd up couple.

 

I'd like to see Briala in the story. She's one of the main people I would look forward to meeting with an elven Inquisitor. How is her pan-elven network progressing? Is it possible for the protagonist to help her in her goal to free the elves? What can the Inquisition do to empower her efforts? How does she feel about Gaspard and Celene since the civil war? Does she believe the Breach might present an opportunity to help achieve a victory for the elves?

 

Given that the elven Inquisitor might also be seen with some religious overtones by some people, I'm looking forward to seeing how she responds to one of the People working to save the world (and what it could mean for the elves as a whole). Maybe the Dalish protagonist can take Briala's proposal to the clans who could be meeting on the outskirts of Halamshiral for the Arlathvenn.

[mikeymoonshine]

I'm not sure who my elfquisitor will support. I may have to factor in the fact that my character shouldn't know allot of the stuff that I do. For example if what happened in Halamshiral comes up (which I am sure it will) would that not make Celene seem a less popular choice for elves? My elfquizitor would not know that Gaspard would have done the same thing and that he cares about the elves even less than she does. 

 

Then again if he has the option he would probably choose neither. My human Warrior will most likely go with Celene but it depends I guess. 

[Vapaa]

Who thinks we'll see Briala in the game?? I really hope so. I would be surprised if she doesn't appear.

 

I think she will, along with Gaspard and Celene

 

Does anyone want Briala and Celene back together? Those days seem long gone but they make a deliciously f'd up couple.

 

If they want to patch things up, they're free to do so, but I won't force Briala into Celene's arms, nor do I think that Celene even wants Briala back via force.

[ButterRum]

I still think Celene would make a better leader with the elves than Gaspard. Remember, one of the reasons Gaspard didn't like Celene's leadership is because he thought she was too lenient with the elves. I can't imagine any pro-elf siding with Gaspard simply because they don't like Celene. As if Gaspard would be better for the elves...

Gaspard caused a civil war. Orlais was relatively peaceful until Gaspard rebelled. Celene had been peacefully ruling Orlais and avoiding any major wars until he decided he wanted a war.

[Karach_Blade]

Even my human, Qunari, and dwarven Inquisitors will support Briala and the elves if given a chance.

[Sylvianus]

 I can't imagine any pro-elf siding with Gaspard simply because they don't like Celene. As if Gaspard would be better for the elves...
 

 

My elf inquisitor ( third playthrough ) won't know who is Gaspard, the only thing she'll probably learn is that Celene killed thousands of elves in Halamshiral. So, I'll judge in the game who is the best for her interests.  As for who has begun the civil war between humans, I don't think my Dalish Pc will care about that. If I can make a deal with both leaders, I don't see why I couldn't side with Gaspard. He seems to be less untrustworthy than Celene anyway.