That's just Stephanie Meyer's influence. It will pass.
Oh thats adorable. You think she was the first one to do supernatural romance.
Turns out, thats been around for a very long time. And there is far far more of it then you would ever expect.
Vampires are fairly mundane.
That's just Stephanie Meyer's influence. It will pass.
Yes.
It's a very common complaint regarding novels - ranging from urban fantasy to horror to women's fiction to mysteries to literary fiction. I've certainly heard people complain about romances in action films and historical dramas.
I don't know, but when i criticize these things - it happens most commonly in urban fantasy these days - it's more the fact that the romance arcs often take over the stories to an unpleasant degree. While romance can add appeal to almost any kind of story, and I usually won't criticize it being present at all, a story which is *mainly* about romance is usually of no interest to me. If I see a book with an interesting fantastic premise and it turns out to be mostly about romance, I will criticize it for being misleading in its advertising. This has put me off reading urban fantasy altogether because a majority of these books are romance novels thinly disguised as fantasy.
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Yeah, "urban fantasy is mostly women having sex with werewolves and vampires" is absolutely the impression I'm getting. I wouldn't want romance to be removed, but focusing so much on it has made the genre as a whole lose appeal for me.
Oh thats adorable. You think she was the first one to do supernatural romance.
Turns out, thats been around for a very long time. And there is far far more of it then you would ever expect.
Vampires are fairly mundane.
I'm well aware of that. She just made a lot more people aware of it.
I'm well aware of that. She just made a lot more people aware of it.
Fair enough.
Oh thats adorable. You think she was the first one to do supernatural romance.
Turns out, thats been around for a very long time. And there is far far more of it then you would ever expect.
Vampires are fairly mundane.
Weren't ghosts like the first big thing people wanted romances with or something? I have no idea on stuff like this never read anything with a hint of supernatural love until Fairie Wars and those were just people who turned into what we call Fairy's when they cross with our world. (though that was like a D plot in the books)
Weren't ghosts like the first big thing people wanted romances with or something? I have no idea on stuff like this never read anything with a hint of supernatural love until Fairie Wars and those were just people who turned into what we call Fairy's when they cross with our world. (though that was like a D plot in the books)
I honestly couldnt list many myself, but my girlfriend does archival work for a library. Apparently there are more books like that than you can possibly imagine.
Ghosts are a big one, yeah. Various mythical creatures like satyrs were another i think.
I honestly couldnt list many myself, but my girlfriend does archival work for a library. Apparently there are more books like that than you can possibly imagine.
Ghosts are a big one, yeah. Various mythical creatures like satyrs were another i think.
Never seen a romance written about them just mostly them forcing themselves on nymphs or getting sad and killing them when they try to hide from them. Not very romantic but then again neither are a lot of 'romances'
Weren't ghosts like the first big thing people wanted romances with or something? I have no idea on stuff like this never read anything with a hint of supernatural love until Fairie Wars and those were just people who turned into what we call Fairy's when they cross with our world. (though that was like a D plot in the books)
Those things tend to come in cycles. Ghosts, Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies. Zombies are still going strong, what with the Walking Dead. No romance with the zombies, though. (although in the comic...)
No romance with the zombies, though. (although in the comic...)
It exists.
Those things tend to come in cycles. Ghosts, Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies. Zombies are still going strong, what with the Walking Dead. No romance with the zombies, though. (although in the comic...)
Two words 'Warm bodies' Zombie romance movie (also a comedy if I recall correctly)
Huldradancer, I know our families aren't the same but yours tends to end up sounding like mine. My mom loves disaster movies then romance after. Though she doesn't get into soap operas. 
I'm glad the next vampires coming soon are not romanticized but going back to the monsters that they are supposed to be.
Huldradancer, I know our families aren't the same but yours tends to end up sounding like mine. My mom loves disaster movies then romance after. Though she doesn't get into soap operas.
I'm glad the next vampires coming soon are not romanticized but going back to the monsters that they are supposed to be.
Or are they? DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUN! That was a lame 'joke' I"m sorry^^; My grandma also digs the drama medical shows as well usually the ones where the entire hospital is sleeping with each other 
What's the new vampire thing that's got you hopeful? I'll still been bitter since the Cirque Du Freak movie and could use a pick me up
Alternatively, I've heard many times that urban fantasy is mostly women having sex with werewolves/vampires and it would be so much better if romances were left out entirely.
I'm doing them right now to keep myself from being bored but in general I don't romance people in these games very much. If I ever do one, then I stick with Liara in Mass Effect and leave the other options alone for example.
Removed the link to that video because it is starting to genuinely anger me.
GaymerX is a convention. It happens to have happened in July. We aren't going to AVOID going to it just because some people might go "whoa they are focusing on the romances." The topic is going to be ALL ABOUT LGBT content, and we'd discuss that topic (which is often our romances) regardless of impending release.
If you look at our actual marketing materials, very little of it talks about romances. At this point it's mostly people seeing other people talking about it and assuming that that is all there is, and perhaps a preoccupation with romances by the person speaking out against them. If something bothers you, there's that innate human frustration to see other people enjoying it and then feeling vindictive for a variety of reasons.
BioWare considers the romances to be optional content that is used to help explore aspects of characters. This hasn't changed.
EDIT: I also wanted to add that as a gamer, romance content isn't really interesting to me and if a game doesn't have it I'm okay with that. If I can handle other people liking our games because of this content, it shouldn't be a problem for others.
So....you removed the link because it personally angered you, not because it was against the ToS or anything? Whew boy....that kind of angers ME. But whatever.
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let's not forget the dinosaursThose things tend to come in cycles. Ghosts, Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies. Zombies are still going strong, what with the Walking Dead. No romance with the zombies, though. (although in the comic...)
Yes I will probably do a no-romance run.
TL,DR VERSION: I will probably never be satisfied with a romance option in gaming, and none in DA:I is interesting for me.
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I like romances, but whats crushing it for me is idiotic lines like...
Hawke to Isabel: What about love?
Imo true love is when youre with someone and you dont ever need to deliver that "I love you" line. Because you both know it and the words do not need to be spoken. Also alot of the dialogue options in romance are overly cheesy and awkward at times. The only romance option Ive found halfway-satisfying in Bioware games are Nathyrra and Jack. I also dont like the "Hollywood happy fairytale romance" which is way to prominent. I dont have a problem with romance, but the western romanticism theme covered honey is too strong.
Another problem is that - for some reason - Ive never found a companion with a personality of a person I wouldve fallen for IRL in real life.
Im still looking for that strong, confident female companion that doesent care about morals and ethics. Which has either dark humor or a brooding demeanor.
Its hard to explain exactly what I mean since english isnt my native language, so Ill come with some I would romance:
https://www.youtube....h?v=v7tsBzJkd8g Mai Linh from Die hard 4
Sniper wolf from metal gear solid
Baroness from GI Joe
Note that they dont need to be femme fatales in any stretch, or "evil". Just intelligent, confident, dark humor, brooding etc.
So whats wrong with the DA:I romance options? Cassandra is too "knightly". Josephine too "proper". Tallis In DA:2 was great if not for being religious (I consider that a major weakness and flaw, I cannot respect someone who follows dogma, tradition or religion - being a slave to the teaching of others is too big of a submissive personality trait).
So....you removed the link because it personally angered you, not because it was against the ToS or anything? Whew boy....that kind of angers ME. But whatever.
The thing is, people use that to argue that the Dragon Age development team are using all their time and resources on romance.
But it's from an event. Which focuses on the LGBTQ aspect of video games.
Along with LGBTQ content comes discussions of gender and sexual orientation.
Gender and sexual orientation would deal with relationships.
So... the panel's (one of few of theirs) subject matter dealing with romance is appropriate.
It's this idea that because of that one panel showcased at that particular event, when it was appropriately so, that some people are using it as the be-all-end-all proof that Bioware spends too much time on romance, when it's not the case- it's always been optional.
Alternatively, I've heard many times that urban fantasy is mostly women having sex with werewolves/vampires and it would be so much better if romances were left out entirely.
I think you mean the paranormal romance genre. Urban fantasy is basically just fantasy that plays in some sort of modern day city.
Paranormal romance is the genre features romance as actual main plot while introducing flimsy fantasy elements. And as someone who ocasionally reads stuff like that (as I have to admit slightly ashamed) I can confirm that in most cases it boils down to women/teenage girls having sex/making out with werewolves, vampires, angels and other supernatural benigs.
Funnily enough said supernatural beings are always muscular, hot, handsome dudes that are act like douchebags, but have a soft core or something similar.
And no it would not be better if romances were left out entirely, because than you'd have a book with 60 pages at most with the following plot:
A women going somewhere - something supernatural happens- saved by some hot dude - the end.
I like romance but not so much that it becomes my primary goal. My first run will be "authentic", I will just go with what my gut wants and if anyone happens to sweep me off my feet, I will gladly go along with it. I only start planning to romance characters once I have experienced the game a few times. That's not to say that right now I'm not invested in some characters more than others but that's something I will put aside for the first run.
Another problem is that - for some reason - Ive never found a companion with a personality of a person I wouldve fallen for IRL in real life.
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You say you want someone who doesn't care about morals and ethics, and then you say not necessarily evil... That's kind of a contradiction, isn't it?
Morrigan seems to fit the bill for what you want. What was the problem with her?
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