Romances are why I love BioWare, blew me away the first time and I realized what was missing in all other cool RPGs.....
If you like romances that much perhaps you should look into Visual Novels or the like. BioWare romances pale in comparison to those
Usually my first playthru ends up a no romance unless I specifically spoil myself, since the first playthru is how I explore the world My first Hawke tried and failed to romance anyone because most of her decisions were made because they were an extension of me and my biases. None of the romancable characters cared one way or the other for my personal responses to the decisions that motivated them toward friendship or rivalry and My hawke ended up very meh that first playthru for all involved. In DAO I ended up breaking up with ALi pretty early on and I had killed Zevran and although ninjad by Leiliana and her hair comment (how the hell is that a flirt) My initial mage tried and failed at her romance.
Romances are why I love BioWare, blew me away the first time and I realized what was missing in all other cool RPGs.....
If that is what is missing from the RPG games you play, perhaps you should play a dating simulator or read romance novels. Those two offer a lot more romantic content.
No, I don't want to die a virgin.
The fear of dying as a virgin stems from the primitive desire of biological beings to mate.
Therefore, only primitives will fear the act or the ability of exercising conscious control over one's primitive desires in order to lead a life that is not just bound on the autopilot of birth, food/ water consumption, defecation, growth, mating and death.
I'll probably romance someone, but I have yet to see a romance and say "that was a worthwhile investment of resources" to any of them in any game
Romance never is a worthwhile resource investment, unless you are living in an environment where you really need a population boost. Logically speaking, dwarf on dwarf heterosexual romance makes the most sense in Thedas since they are the ones in danger of dying out but for some reason Bioware, time and again, refuses to do a dwarf romance. At most we got the male dwarf noble getting one of the noble hunters pregnant.
Talk about a lack of logical thought.
I'll probably just drop it if any of companions will hint some crap coming, like they did in both previous games. Since they were always right and I'm tired of this... this unnecessary drama, I've had enough. Because every time it's just feels like "goddamit Morrigan!" or "goddamit Anders!" and so on. I'm unable to have a crush on someone normal it seems.
Actually that is part of the reason why my canon character (the one where I roleplay as myself) never engages in romance because all the companions come with some crappy baggages that I could never see myself personally romancing any one of them. By that I mean if I was personally the Warden or the Champion, yeah, I would never do it.
Morrigan wants to be close to you so she can impregnate herself. Leliana has the whole born again religious girl who does that facade to hide her true nature thing. Merrill is a naive blood mage that wants to ignore all the risks associated with demon dealing and she blames everyone else for it unless you rival her. Isabela is a lying pirate wench that sleeps around, steals and important artifact that starts an unnecessary war. Tallis is a zealot who traded one enslavement for another.
Yeah, don't see myself going anywhere near these...In real life, its akin to getting yourself into a relationship with a girl who will implode your life into oblivion...
Never done a DA playthrough without a romance, romances are part of the fun, for me.
Yah, no one in DA2 really struck me as worthwhile on my first runthrough. When I do an evil run I can never be 'tender' enough to do that sort of thing.
well... In DA2 I was like: I MUST ROMANCE FENRIS!!! and afterwards I found out that his and my personality clashed big time. We disagreed on literally everything, and I wasn't that surprised when he ditched me at the end.
Instead, I became very close to Anders because we had pretty much the same opinion about stuff. So before I knew it, I was together with Anders.
What I've learned about all this, is that I will just play the game with an open mind. If all the characters differ from my p.o.v, then I will probably stay alone. It's no use to romance someone that ticks me off.
well... In DA2 I was like: I MUST ROMANCE FENRIS!!! and afterwards I found out that his and my personality clashed big time. We disagreed on literally everything, and I wasn't that surprised when he ditched me at the end.
I feel your pain, bro. 
Even though it was him who caught my attention and brought to this series, it was such a big nope in the end that I was never able to deal with him.
I don't get how people are so sure now what character they're gonna romance. It's not only the looks that matters. Even knowing their background it's still hard to predict anything.
If you like romances that much perhaps you should look into Visual Novels or the like. BioWare romances pale in comparison to those
If that is what is missing from the RPG games you play, perhaps you should play a dating simulator or read romance novels. Those two offer a lot more romantic content.
You both seem to be assuming that the romance is the only thing that s/he likes about the Bioware games. S/he didn't say that. You can appreciate Bioware games as RPGs with romance content and that can make you like them better than RPGs without romance content. This doesn't mean that you want a game with just romance content. Those aren't RPGs; those are dating sims. They are not the same thing. But I'm sure you knew that already.
Romance never is a worthwhile resource investment, unless you are living in an environment where you really need a population boost. Logically speaking, dwarf on dwarf heterosexual romance makes the most sense in Thedas since they are the ones in danger of dying out but for some reason Bioware, time and again, refuses to do a dwarf romance. At most we got the male dwarf noble getting one of the noble hunters pregnant.
Talk about a lack of logical thought.
You seem to be confusing "romance" with "reproduction". They are often associated, but not the same thing. You can romance someone without worrying about "population boosts" and you can reproduce without romance. I don't see why the reproduction argument is being used here. It can be a reason for romance, but it doesn't have to be.
I've romanced on every playthrough, except ME1 (where i Virmired Kaidan to get out of that), because I just like the extra flair it adds to the story and characters. But it's not a selling point. Given at this point it'd be unthinkable for a bioware game to come out w/o romance, but there's so much more to the game that I love. If non of them seem romance-worthy to me, I'll just play a romanceless playthrough.
BioWare romance is always tricky for me because all of the LIs come with a lot of "baggage" that I/my avatar just can't handle. But its still a important aspect for me.
In DAO as a female Warden I have a casual fling with Zevran. His morals are far too depraved to seriously romance him. As a male Warden I choose morrigan just for the Godbaby outcome as she's just as messed up.
I DA2 my Hawkes romance different LIs based on personality. mage chooses Anders, mundane chooses Fenris, one chooses a fling with Isabella. All my Hawkes are female.
I do a fair amount of romanceless playthroughs -- about a third of my runs have a protagonist who's got no time for love.
That being said, I REALLY like the option. I feel like it adds a lot of depth to the story for comparatively little effort. How your character views their bro is different from how they view their beau. And that's just fine.
Would I play a game without romances or with no choice? Oh, probably. But since they're there, I do love the extra layers relationships (of all shades, not just romantic) add to the plot. I'm a human. I'm a social animal. Social interactions fascinate me. 
Edit: I should note that I view my protagonists as characters, not my doppleganger in the game.
I feel your pain, bro.
I don't get how people are so sure now what character they're gonna romance. It's not only the looks that matters. Even knowing their background it's still hard to predict anything.
Nicely said =) because it really got me thinking; is it really romance to go after a character because he/she just 'looks good?' I mean I am a big mage supporter ( as long as they dont do stupid things ) so I cannot romance someone that hates mages. I mean, we would prolly fight alllll the time.
I see the OP has moved on to the refugee camp of Bioware ex-fans that is the Inquisition thread in the CDPR forum, so not sure if there is a point responding to this. But anyway: yes, my canon Warden is a no-romance one, as is my Shepard. Hawke did romance Isabela because she's hot. But in general I do not pursue a romance.
I was concerned about the seemingly increasing importance of romances seeing as they were announcing LIs and their sexual orientation like it's a big deal. You know articles in gaming webs like "we've got more romances now than in any other DA game", "this is the first fully gay companion", "here's a bioware peep talking about inclusivity in gaming", etc. Made a topic about it. Allan the mod said most of the companion interaction is non-romance and there will be friendship paths as well as romance paths. We'll see.
aerisblight Hehe, it's makes two of us.
No matter how hard I try to convince myself not to do it and try to break the habit, I always end up with a mage. This sh*t is getting pretty ridiculous as I also always play as a mage to boot. I mean, both a Hero and a Champion's are mages and so theirs lovers, how crazy is that? I wouldn't be surprised if someone'll mention in DAI that all the sh*t in the world revolves around them (but what the hell, I guess everyone always blame mages regardless) - both the good and the bad stuff.
And I'm sure I will keep it up in DAI, lol.
But to be fair, Fenris makes an exception for Hawke, even if he/she's a mage, and can even fight for them in the end. That is, he let go of his hatred and free more or less by the end of the game. The thing about him that concerned me more was well... If I knew all along that someone was abused in every possible way by a mage I probably wouldn't have touched that person with a ten foot pole, if I were Hawke. Actually, I would've appreciate a class-gated romance here. Because it doesn't feel right at all, the way it is now.
My first play through of DAI will be a nomance. We'll see about other romances on other playthroughs after getting to know the characters.
I’m for one a big a fan of roleplaying my characters as either nomanced or as failed romanced (got dumped). I don’t want my characters to end up as my Mary Sue self inserts who live happily ever after or are even perfect with every relationship.
But to be honest, I’m not expecting any of the romances to be as developed in Origins but more rather teeter on the lines of fanservice as what they did with Mass Effect Citadel.
IDK how to word it but I’m expecting DA:I’s romances to be…constrained? Like there will be less dialogue options that will define the personality of the relationship and you will have to be forced into sappy scenes/dialogue that could be cringe worthy.
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Above all, how important is romance to you ? Is it an optional extra for you or do you see it as a necessity for your character ?
Hey,
to answer your question:
Very important - as the romance content (appart from the really fleshed out companions - some of which are romance options (which fleshes them out even more)) is what sets the Bioware games appart from any other companies games (no other RPGs have this deep romances, if any at all!) and that is what draws me to them (it's part of the replay value of the games - the other being the choices that shape the story!)!
I would never play a lone wolf (and I kind of am one in RL - I have few, but good, friends, I seldomly have relationships (I just hate chasing women who have the first pick and who dismiss you too easily for not exactly meeting their high standards or because you are too serious without wanting the marriage trap (hate that - child of divorced parents after all), living together (LAT would be my choice, after living with my parents for so long...I would never exchange one person trying to run my life for another...and routine is a romance killer, too), having shared finances (separate accounts all the way!) or children (never wanted them...)) etc. - still I crave them, with the right person and my characters reflect me in that!) character (at least not when it comes to relationships...I am not playing an everybodies darling/buddy either...I don't dance to others tunes...if someone does something I don't like, I will oppose him/her (even if they are formally on my side!))
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I’m for one a big a fan of roleplaying my characters as either nomanced or as failed romanced (got dumped). I don’t want my characters to end up as my Mary Sue self inserts who live happily ever after or are even perfect with every relationship.
But to be honest, I’m not expecting any of the romances to be as developed in Origins but more rather teeter on the lines of fanservice as what they did with Mass Effect Citadel.
IDK how to word it but I’m expecting DA:I’s romances to be…constrained? Like there will be less dialogue options that will define the personality of the relationship and you will have to be forced into sappy scenes/dialogue that could be cringe worthy.
I expect a drop of quality romances in DAI, more does not = better.
Romance is very much a back-burner subject to me, a piece of extra fluff that's nice enough but not really all that important to me. My Shepards engaged in romances but my wardens and Hawkes did not because the LI's in DAO and DA2 did not appeal to me. Even in ME my fondest relationships were the friendships with Joker, Thane, Mordin, Wrex and (especially) Garrus. Bioware is much better at simulating camaraderie than they are romance IMO. In general I have no problem with romances as that makes a lot of players happy and am only miffed if being a LI causes friction interacting with said characters in a platonic way.
I expect a drop of quality romances in DAI, more does not = better.
Nah, i think they should improve. It's been a while and devs are learning. Also, they've been working on DAI for a long time, so the it shouldn't be an issue.
and (especially) Garrus.
Oh yes. Too bad we don't have anything as near in DA universe, it's such a shame.
I expect a drop of quality romances in DAI, more does not = better.
More also doesn't = worse
I'm keeping an open mind.
"No romance. NoMance! Haha </Isabelavoice>
In Mass Effect. In the first game, when I play Male Shepard, it's almost-always a no romance since I leave Ashley on Virmire and Liara freaks me out. (Though I usually bed the Consort). The only time I did a FemShep NoMance was when I made a F!Shep/Ashley playthrough
In Mass Effect 2, I've played it a few times that way.
In Mass Effect 3, I think I only did it once, to see what would happen. There's usually enough in the last two games to run the gambit.
In Dragon Age, I never played without a romance, but I was able to ignore it in 2, since I romanced Merrill. In general, romances there feel very back-burner and not relevant to conversation.
Oh yes. Too bad we don't have anything as near in DA universe, it's such a shame.
I know a lot of people have a special kinship with Varric but I didn't (despite the fact he was my favorite DA2 companion) mostly cause so much of his friendship with Hawke occurred off-screen (a problem with all of Hawke's relationship, I honestly felt like the third wheel in my party sometimes). As you play different characters in every DA you don't get that unique of really forging and watching a relationship development over multiple games. It will be nice to see Varric and the other returning DA characters again but there is no real emotional build-up to their return because they're complete strangers to the Inquisitor.
I'd actually love more storyline for a character that chooses no romance.
I very much believe in what Wynne was trying to get across in DA:O. And I am also a firm believer that for a person who excels at their vocation... relationships inevitably suffer (look at SO many great people in our world).
To be great - one must sacrifice something - and many great people sacrifice success in relationships. That doesn't mean they're ALL alone - but many end up there.
Ever since Neverwinter Nights (Aribeth), I have always partaken in romances. They help my character feel more complete. However, DA:I may be the first time that I break that tradition. None of the female companions look appealing to me in that way. I'm very disappointed to say that my inquisitor would probably be "forever alone". But who knows. Maybe there will be a pretty NPC to flirt with, like Kaitlyn and Bella.
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