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[Malanek]

Shepard could rp as lesbian with Liara (she is bi), Kelly (she is bi), Allers (she is bi) or Traynor (she is lesbian). Male Shepard could only rp as a gay man with Kaidan (he is bi) and Steve (he is gay). Limited for gay male Shepard or the gay male player who wants to romance a male npc (bi or gay).

I guess they can run the numbers and see what was popular. Personally I think having 2 gay male romances in one game is quite decent representation. Just how many do you think there should be? I don't think you should be complaining about that in a thread that is really quite a different topic.

 

But as an aside I would be quite happy to drastically reduce romance options to include alien protagonists.

[Harie]

Shepard could rp as lesbian with Liara (she is bi), Kelly (she is bi), Allers (she is bi) or Traynor (she is lesbian). Male Shepard could only rp as a gay man with Kaidan (he is bi) and Steve (he is gay). Limited for gay male Shepard or the gay male player who wants to romance a male npc (bi or gay).

Yes, I'm aware of all that. But bisexuals/pansexuals are not lesbians... lesbians did not abound (which is what you said). And, yes, there was a complete lack of non-straight male characters in the first two games - hopefully that won't happen again in future ME games.

/This has nothing to do with the thread and I don't want to derail, so I'll leave it at that.

[Sion1138]

Remove romance options altogether.

 

Equal representation.

[KaiserShep]

Hah. You know it's never gonna happen.

[SNascimento]

Taking away romance won't solve anything, but I have to say I find it scary how romances have been handled in the latest Bioware games. I mean, sometimes I ago to Dragon Age forum and look at some comments and some people look to the new squadmates like a hungry man does to a meal.

[Mcfly616]

 If they continue with the whole romance deal....they really need to implement some love triangles. I was really hoping for some ish to hit the fan during ME3. But nope, all my ME2 philandering never caught up with me.

[hyolo]

 

 

I think what bioware and the mass effect writing team needs to really be focusing on is FIRST:

 

EQUAL REPRESENTATION for females and males...why is this not a thread...hmm maybe I should start one...nope too scared to....just tuck it in here.

 

 

-no more females getting too few love interests while males get too many. Even straight femshep with the 2 limited LIs (and one was compromised for an npc team member) she got and you have some anti-femshep fans crying over her 2 limited options as if she should have none...she should not exist

 

-no more of this gay men are a minority in the future but lesbians abound. What sort of dystopic future is this. Did they force mothers to systematically abort gay male fetuses. Did these scientists discover the gay gene and eliminate it only for men (/sarcasm).

 

-let female soldiers  look and act like soldiers...not hypersexualized barbies

 

-more human racial customization

 

 

All this before they tackle more alien races

 

IF I'm not right, a fan, during SDCC panel, asked exactly these questions.

The guys said they will take into consideration and they have taken some of it already regarding the male x female body types and hypersexualization. As they were talking, they mentioned the armor sets to both female and male Heros. Gamble said one of the first things they did was to build a character with almost no apparent difference regarding genders. The chest part of the armor is flat, with almost no way to tell if it's a man or a woman. So, yes, I think we - women - will see better stuff in the future (Finally, my god. Or I am dreaming. But we'll see).

They also said that customization - the person and the armor - will be vast. What this word means to them, however, it is another topic.

About relationships, I didn't hear anything at all but maybe, maybe they'll make it better. It is another gen afterall. A lot can be done with that.

And for anything that is sacred, if I find one thread talking about representation, I'd die a happy woman playing video games. But I think I already lost my hope regarding that.

 

Just wanted to say this. Will not go off-topic again. Sorry about it.

[hyolo]

About the protagonist being human or not, I'd gotta say 'meh'. Been there, done that several times already. Many not very well written, only some worth it. But if the human would be very well written, I'd say why the hell not. That's why I love Mass Effect anyway. Story. Characters. Relationships.

However, since they've been taken a good time with this new game and being it next gen, they can do it better in all of these ways. Human, non-human. Profound characters or shallow ones. Friendships that doesn't require a romance option in the first 30 minutes of the game. Love triangles (as much as I hate these, it is a human thing). Dark and perverse beings. Antagonists that make me sick. Romances that can be started when we want it and not when the game wants it to. Romances are different, so I'd like to see more options and all. Let go of the Renegade and Paragon choices. No one is black or white.

But most of all, do it like Dragon Age. Let us choose who to play but the protagonist whoever the game wants it to be. At least I'd have the option. If it does has good return, maybe they'd do it better next time.

So, yeah, I'd wouldn't mind, but giving me the option would be a lot more better.

[KroganSoul]

Thing is we've already played as a human, so why have another trilogy with another human?

 

I want to be a Krogan bounty hunter!

[ObserverStatus]

I want to play as an Ardat-Yakshi. This game couldn't not be GOTY then. Game of the generation even.

[Farangbaa]

I want to play as an Ardat-Yakshi. This game couldn't not be GOTY then. Game of the generation even.

 

Ha, love your display picture.

 

It's not as good as the one some guy on my favourite football team's forum has (that one has made my try to get the bug off my screen more than once.. it's that good) , but good nonetheless.

[Bizantura]

I want to play as an Ardat-Yakshi. This game couldn't not be GOTY then. Game of the generation even.

All the foreplay needed to get to the astronomical body counts!?  Only the French could pull this off but then again it would never be published in the america's.

So no, not seeing it!!

 

Never expected to see in my lifetime that every "varia" has to be in a game but a little nude freaks so many out.  Must have been doing it wrong all those years bud naked.

[Iakus]

Thing is we've already played as a human, so why have another trilogy with another human?

 

I want to be a Krogan bounty hunter!

And what difference would it make to play a krogan as opposed to an aggressive human?

 

Besides being able to say "I have a quad"?

[ObserverStatus]

And what difference would it make to play a krogan as opposed to an aggressive human?

Besides being able to say "I have a quad"?

Being able to make creative threats about using the dismembered parts of your foes as fertility aids?

[Dominus]

Well, would it be considerable to build a toggle to play as your companions(who may or may not be Ardat-Yakshi)? At least for combat, you'd have the option of playing another race.

For those who want to stay as the human from beginning to end, leave the toggle off. If you want to be the badass Krogan every once in a while, slide on the toggle. Dragon Age has it permanently toggled on. Why not find a happy medium between the two?

[General TSAR]

Remove romance options altogether.

 

Equal representation.

(Clap clap)

 

"No one wants to bang you! GTFO."

 

It would be a refreshing change of pace. 

[HydroFlame20]

I want to bed a Krogan or a Volus Dark lord lol.

[zestalyn]

And what difference would it make to play a krogan as opposed to an aggressive human?

mo' headbutts​

 

[Iakus]

Being able to make creative threats about using the dismembered parts of your foes as fertility aids?

Bah,  I do that all the time

[Chewin]

Come to think of it, playing as a Drell would be quite intriguing, b/c of the ability to cause mild hallucinations during "oral contact". Romances would end up hilarious.

 

In all seriousness though, as I mentioned earlier, having options to select race would be great. Though to be frank, the character customization would probably be quite lackluster when it comes to aliens in ME, considering certain races more or less looked identical to each other in the games other than from special facial patterns and colors. Hopefully the next ME game might (if they do give the ability to create other races) add some 'drastic' features to the CC for aliens.

[zestalyn]

Come to think of it, playing as a Drell would be quite intriguing, b/c of the ability to cause mild hallucinations during "oral contact". Romances would end up hilarious.

Lolllll that's what I always think every time I saw a Thane romance scene. FemShep gettin hiiigh

[DeinonSlayer]

I suppose I'm the odd one around here, because I never really found the concept of playing one of the alien races to be particularly exciting either. But I suppose what really matters is how well the option to alternate between races works for the story they want to tell, which, to me, is more important. There are only two ways that I know of that a protagonist can be any race leading a team comprised of multiple species, and that's either by being part of a mercenary band, or the Spectres. We were already part of the latter, but I think it would be pretty cruddy to be forced into the former. It doesn't help that there are far more viable races in Mass Effect than there are in Dragon Age, and DA gets away with this because they're all basically fantasy humans that all live in the same place anyway.

I remember when I played Halo 2 for the first time, I found myself enjoying the Arbiter's missions far more than Master Chief's. I had never played the first game and had little idea of the surrounding plot, admittedly, but the Arbiter's arc was far more interesting.

An alien PC could be made to work if they put in the effort to develop a distinctly foreign culture to put them in (moreso, probably, than elves and dwarves). This, I think, was why DA:O worked so well. I only wish I was surprised that so many people default to Human Noble. I see HN as the "Sheploo" of the Dragon Age universe.

I could have seen a non-human protagonist working out quite well in ME:Next, but I guess Generic Space Marine can be marketed to a wider audience than putting a Turian, a faceless Quarian or god forbid a Hanar front and center on the box.

[Ctoagu]

I remember when I played Halo 2 for the first time, I found myself enjoying the Arbiter's missions far more than Master Chief's. I had never played the first game and had little idea of the surrounding plot, admittedly, but the Arbiter's arc was far more interesting.

 

Well, let's look at it from a story perspective. When it comes to the Master Chief's arc, you had what amounted to "oh, we're fighting the Covenant on Earth time to kick ass, oh, there's a second Halo we need to kick ass, oh, the Flood have a central consciousness that just sent you into the heart of the Covenant empire let's kick some more ass". There wasn't really much to it from a story perspective. Meanwhile, the Arbiter had a more personal story that involved the revelation of his civilization's core beliefs being founded on lies - and subsequently crumbling beneath the ensuing civil war. He had more happening to him as an individual that enabled me to relate with him rather than the Master Chief, ironically enough.

 

I'm honestly disappointed that the Halo games have stopped giving me deeper glimpses into the alien perspective since then, regardless of whatever the expanded universe is churning out. It gave Halo 2 a certain flavor that the other games seem to lack, from my point of view. It's why I'm so big on seeing playable alien races in the next Mass Effect; it'll take the series out of its human-centric rut that grew very deep with ME3. Because I'd like to know who didn't find it contrived that the Crucible plans were hidden away on Mars, forget the fact that the Reapers conveniently parked the Citadel above Earth so the combined fleets of the galaxy could make their last stand there.

[Mcfly616]

I've never heard anybody say they enjoyed playing as the Arbiter in Halo 2. That was like universally panned. To each their own though.

 

 

In fact, when they delegated him to just "player 2" in Halo 3 the general consensus was pretty much: "thank god"