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[Jukaga]

I've noticed that the camp vendor has many more gifts for sale than I remember from my vanilla playthru years ago. I bought Morrigan Allistair's voodoo doll and got an absurd +50 to friendship. This seems to have invalidated  my chance to unlock Shapeshifter (well it's already unlocked from before but you know what I mean) It also seems this makes some conversations never happen. So my question is it better to not give them these uber-gifts till you've exhausted the natural progression of conversations and standard gifts?

[theskymoves]

The Feast Day gifts can 'break' the relationship progression, by artificially escalating approval... it seems some relationship milestones only occur in certain approval 'bands' and by skipping over that approval range, you miss the content associated with it. In addition to Morrigan's refusal to teach her specialization, it can screw up Leliana's romance, and can also keep Alistair from offering his rose to the Warden.

 

One way to mitigate the damage done by the gifts, if you really want to use them, is to use either the character specific Prank (-50) to negate the approval of the Gift, or use the Rotten Onions (-10 each) and Lumps of Coal (-5).

 

For example, if I gift Alistair his  Grey Warden Hand Puppet, I then 'feed' him 5 Rotten Onions... he has his toy, but his approval is unaltered.

[Lavaeolus]

The Feastday Gifts and Feastday Pranks are two DLC packs that add a whole bunch of items, with each companion having one gift that gives them +50 and one that gives them -50. Plus, there are a few bonus bits with them: Morrigan's "Alistair Voodoo Doll" can be used, for instance, to have Morrigan poke it and Alistair suddenly have an injury. Some are actually useful, though almost all are silly.

 

The game isn't really balanced around them, so I just generally use them for mucking around. Usually save beforehand, or use them to try something fancy, and once to antagonise a party member for no real reason and then have them praise me 2 seconds later.

[TheMadHarridan]

I never give the +50 Feastday Gifts until I either have the party member's approval maxed out or almost maxed out by regular play. I usually only end up giving each companion one regular gift (or two if they are really stingy on approval points) and use gameplay, conversations, etc. to get them to +100. Even then I often only give the useful Feastday Gifts out (like Sten's Qunari Prayers for the Dead, Oghren's Beard Flask, Zevran's Antivan Brandy, etc.). I usually end up carrying a lot of gifts over to Awakening to give to characters there who are much more difficult to max out by regular means.

 

However, I did notice something disturbing on the PC version with my recent Zevran romance. When I gave him his Feastday Gift, even though he was at "adore" (hadn't reached Taliesin yet) and at +100, the gift changed his approval from "adore" to "warm." I freaked out. He still had the romance dialogue, but I was terrified that it would keep the romance from completing in the long run, so I went back a save and Zevran didn't get his Feastday Gift that game. I don't know if this happens with other romances or even on other platforms, but I will not be giving a Feastday Gift to my current romance again.  

[Magdalena11]

@TheMadHarridan - good advice.  I've broken Oghren's Old Flame by giving him his beard flask.  I still give him 1 standard gift and 1 thoughtful gift so, with dialogue and approval from the few remaining quests, I can get his personal quest before Landsmeet.  Giving him rotten onions didn't help.  After that, the only thing I could ever get him to say was "asschabs."  After his quest, he's a pushover.  He's still got 2 gifts to go in Awakenings before he's gifted out and there are plenty of conversation options to get the friend epilogue.  I've always wanted to try out the bar of soap, but don't want to tick him off with a character that's going into Awakenings.  Maybe I should once, to see what happens.  Worse comes to worse, I won't have to look at blood-spattered companions all the time (I know I can turn off the gore option, but I want to be gory sometimes....)

 

I never was able to bring Feastday gifts into Awakenings, but a mod might be interfering.  There are plenty of gifts in-game if you're patient.

[theskymoves]

I never was able to bring Feastday gifts into Awakenings, but a mod might be interfering.  There are plenty of gifts in-game if you're patient.

 

Not a mod conflict, Feastday items simply don't transfer into Awakening.

[Jukaga]

Thanks for the advice, I think I'll play it safe and avoid the feastday gifts until I have the relationship states where I want them. Good thing I saved before giving her the voodoo doll!

[themikefest]

I have the feastday gifts, but never used them. I have the feastday gifts because they came with the Ultimate Edition.

[gottaloveme]

I never had a problem - the approval goes up but the warm, friendly, love stuff goes on as normal. Always have that save game to go back too.