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[Hellion Rex]

To be fair, Wynne does explain to the Warden-Commander (in the City of Amaranthine) that she opposes the Fraternities voting for autonomy because she believes the Chantry would kill all the mages rather than accept them being free.

Ah, but that was before Justinia's ascension in 9:34. Also, Wynne was working with Justinia on this whole thing anyways, especially with Pharamond.

[AresKeith]

An explosion would be TOO cliche.

That's pretty much more or less what happens

[TheJediSaint]

Wynnes story would be a joke if she sacrificed herself to save Evangeline and Evangeline dies offscreen five minutes later. 

It would be almost GRRMartian.

[Milan92]

An explosion would be TOO cliche. 

 

Okay. But that's what's gonna happen.

[Iakus]

Eh... What she did near the end of the book?Lambert brought mages under control she helped mages escape what ultimately allowed mages to fight back and that started war with templars and here we go... Not mention that her serching for cure was another disaster that lambert tried prevent.

 

 

Lambert slaughtered a number of First Enchanters, and imprisoned the rest without cause.  It was a legal assembly.

 

And actually, Lambert admits to Evangeline that a Tranquility alternative is something worth pursuing.  the cure was an unforseen discovery, which Wynne had already ensured was spread to all the Circles.  So that genie was out of the bottle, and not of the Divine's doing. 

[LobselVith8]

Ugh, I really wanted to have Evangeline and Rhys maybe survive, but if they die, it'd give Cole's story even more power, in my opinion.

Speaking of, could

Spoiler

Could Faith protect Evangeline from the blast?

 

It's difficult to say. I don't think so, as it appears there's only one person who survives the cataclysm - the Inquisitor. That seems to be why there's some religious overtones associated with the main character. However, if the Chantry and the mage leadership are attending, it's possible she might not have been present at the meeting; perhaps she's the one who is said to be at the Highlands.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Wynnes story would be a joke if she sacrificed herself to save Evangeline and Evangeline dies offscreen five minutes later. 

Considering that wynne could be killed by the warden in first place pretty much she wouldn't be there to save her there is chance they can kill her anyway...

 

 

Lambert slaughtered a number of First Enchanters, and imprisoned the rest without cause.  It was a legal assembly.

 

And actually, Lambert admits to Evangeline that a Tranquility alternative is something worth pursuing.  the cure was an unforseen discovery, which Wynne had already ensured was spread to all the Circles.  So that genie was out of the bottle, and not of the Divine's doing. 

 

First he wanted Rhys.

Second mages were voting for independence what would be pretty much disaster and lambert knew it and divine allowed that as i said divine was stupid and naive.

So lambert wanted solve 2 in 1 move and he would if not divine...

 

Not mention that caused problem with demons in first place and then wynne spread news all thanks to divine so nope it didn't end well perhaps idea was good but execution horrible and that what matters.

[Lulupab]

Wynnes story would be a joke if she sacrificed herself to save Evangeline and Evangeline dies offscreen five minutes later. 

 

Same goes for Fiona as well, she (with help) destroyed a thousand year old system that served no one. She cannot die offscreen.

[Hellion Rex]

Cole's going to need a big hug, there's no doubt about that.

Cole and Rhys
OH, MY HEART

http://feylen.tumblr.com/

[Medhia_Nox]

@LobselVith8:  Interesting, I don't see Adrian as a villain because she wants to see mages free.

 

I see her as a villain because of what she's willing to do to get it.

 

Also, how about the people that don't absolve ANY of them? 

As for the Player, the storyline has video game morality.  I must go through combat obstacle courses to complete the game or simply not play.  I consider story murders to be accountable for the player - not the nameless hordes (that might not be the same for you, I can't control that)

 

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@Lulupad:   If you find her actions just "questionable"  I genuinely feel sorry for you.  They're vile methods to achieve a goal and were driven not just by her need to see mages free, but her spiteful bitter bitchiness at being snubbed for a Templar.

 

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As for Cole, don't even get me started. Once again, the boards had me thinking that maybe he was a "little questionable" and I found one of the most vile "things" I've seen in DA.  

 

I will have serious metagaming problems with him.

[Milan92]

Cole and Rhys
OH, MY HEART

http://feylen.tumblr.com/

 

Well, no worries, Cole!

 

Cause the Inquisitor and Cassandra are gonna be Rhys and Evangeline 2.0

[Ianamus]

It would be almost GRRMartian.

 

Not really. From what I've seen the deaths in Game of Thrones always have a story-driving purpose behind them. 

 

Wynne dying to save Evangeline in a book only for Evangeline to die before Inquisition even begins would achieve absolutely nothing and would not further the story in any way at all.

[Hellion Rex]

It's difficult to say. I don't think so, as it appears there's only one person who survives the cataclysm - the Inquisitor. That seems to be why there's some religious overtones associated with the main character. However, if the Chantry and the mage leadership are attending, it's possible she might not have been present at the meeting; perhaps she's the one who is said to be at the Highlands.

Umm, it's a TME character, not an Asunder one at the Highlands.

Spoiler

Imshael or Michel, or both.

[AresKeith]

Same goes for Fiona as well, she (with help) destroyed a thousand year old system that served no one. She cannot die offscreen.

Yea.... not the same

[LobselVith8]

Umm, it's a TME character, not an Asunder one at the Highlands.

Spoiler

Imshael or Michel, or both.

 

Ah, okay. I thought the presence of the Red Templars would have been a logical reason for her to be there. As for TME characters you listed, I suppose it could be both, as one is pursuing the other.

[The Elder King]

Fiona has the least chance of dying because she outsmarted and defeated a broodmother ffs.
 
A few Templars or assassins should be a breeze.

  

Good luck trying to outsmart an explosion.
 
Rhys: "You can't catch me!"
 
Lyrium Explosion: "Oh yes I am!"

  

An explosion would be TOO cliche.

What Milan said . If she's still the leader of the mages, she'll be at the conference, and she'll (probably) die.

[Lulupab]

@LobselVith8:  Interesting, I don't see Adrian as a villain because she wants to see mages free.
 
I see her as a villain because of what she's willing to do to get it.
 
Also, how about the people that don't absolve ANY of them? 

As for the Player, the storyline has video game morality.  I must go through combat obstacle courses to complete the game or simply not play.  I consider story murders to be accountable for the player - not the nameless hordes (that might not be the same for you, I can't control that)
 
@Lulupad:   If you find her actions just "questionable"  I genuinely feel sorry for you.  They're vile methods to achieve a goal and were driven not just by her need to see mages free, but her spiteful bitter bitchiness at being snubbed for a Templar.

 
"Questionable" ranges from horrendous to simple trickery. She is one of the better gray characters that Bioware has written.
 

Yea.... not the same

She is actually somewhat a protagonist in Asunder depending on your view of things. I'm not saying she shouldn't die, that simply depends on the story. She shouldn't die offscreen.

[The Elder King]

Ah, okay. I thought the presence of the Red Templars would have been a logical reason for her to be there. As for TME characters you listed, I suppose it could be both, as one is pursuing the other.

I agree. I'm interested in seeing either character in the Highlands, expecially because of the connection with the red templars.

[The Elder King]

"Questionable" ranges from horrendous to simple trickery. She is one of the better gray characters that Bioware has written.
 

She is actually somewhat a protagonist in Asunder depending on your view of things. I'm not saying she shouldn't die, that simply depends on the story. She shouldn't die offscreen.

Nobody said she should die offscreen. I personally think we'll see part of the conference and the death to the two leaders.

[Hellion Rex]

"Questionable" ranges from horrendous to simple trickery. She is one of the better gray characters that Bioware has written.


She is actually somewhat a protagonist in Asunder depending on your view of things. I'm not saying she shouldn't die, that simply depends on the story. She shouldn't die offscreen.

A protagonist that doesn't even appear until the closing chapters.

And she won't die offscreen, you get to watch her wither and get entombed in lyrium.

[Medhia_Nox]

@Lulupad:  I am not at all saying how you should see her, but I think she's as one sided as her radicalism.  She is utterly corrupted by her fanaticism to achieve mage freedom.

 

What surprises me is that even when it has nothing to do with mage freedom, she's still a petty, nasty character.  I don't have my book on me otherwise I would quote passages I found particularly disgusting.

 

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Rhys and Wynne were a sigh of relief when I finally read that book.

 

I thought Wynne had made a complete 180 after reading the boards, when things couldn't have been further from the truth.  I would, however, like to have known what she was thinking in the phylactery chamber. 

 

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I love how reviled Wynne is because she achieved her freedom the "long way round".  

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

I think the templars should work more like a corrupt mage/demon response team than overseers.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

I think the templars should work more like a corrupt mage/demon response team than overseers.

[Hellion Rex]

I love how reviled Wynne is because she achieved her freedom the "long way round".

Wait, she's reviled?

[Ianamus]

The thing I can't stand about Adrian is that she forced all of the mages who didn't want to fight (which was a very large number of them, around half), to fight her war for her. 

 

I bet they will be the ones being slaughtered on the front lines while Adrian "leads" from the safety of her command tent.