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[Heisenburg_16]

Let me start off by saying, hello everyone. I've had an Origin account for almost a year now, but I have just now decided to start using EA's assosciated forums. I'm a newbie. I'm kind of on the fence about this game, and I'm wondering if anyone can give me advice, help, opinions, or if anyone feels like I do.

 

 

I have done very extensive research, on this game, for years now, ever since it was officially announced. Now, don't get me wrong. This has the potential to be a great game. But, I'm not exactly sold on it. Almost everything sounds awesome, but I do have a few things holding me back from getting the game.

 

I have tried Dragon Age: Origins, and Dragon Age 2. Yes, I do know the kinds of things that were said about Dragon Age 2, but I still tried it.  I played each game for a few hours. I honestly didn't like them. Yes, I do understand why people like them, but I just wasn't a fan of them. I MUCH greatly prefer the Mass Effect series, and I'm hoping that Inquisition can take some aspects from Mass Effect. I know these are two different game series, and I don't nessescarily want to compare them, and cause flame wars, but I at least think they can learn from each other.

 

I didn't like Mass Effect 1 that much, but I did love Mass Effect 2 and 3. I have played over 100 video games in my life, and the Mass Effect series is definitley one of my favorite series (Somewhere in the top 20-10). Since Mass Effect 3 motivated me to try the ME series, when I wasn't a big fan of the first, I'm hoping Inquisition can do something similar, and make me love Dragon Age, even if I wasn't a fan of the first two. I have a few main gripes with Inquisition, from most disliked to least disliked:

 

1. Past flaws from Dragon Age and ME games. In the original Dragon Age games, certain things frustrated me. Sometimes, I would have absolutely no idea of what I was suppossed to do, where I was supposed to go, or what the next step was, mostly in the main story mode. Other times I would get lost, stuck, or confused. I would search Youtube, Gamefaqs, and anything else I could think of, but nothing helped me. Another problem, is the punishing difficulty, even on the lower difficulty settings. Enemies felt like damage sponges sometimes, while it took limited hits for my character/party to be killed. I had to babysit my party. I gave them skill preferences, and some potions, but they felt like cannon fodder, in my opinion. The upgrades, perks, and abilities only provided limited help and support, and I was still dominated by the enemies. No builds seemed to help me. I invested in what I thought would greatly assist me, but nothing worked. I'm definitley not a casual gamer, but I'm definitley not a pro gamer, either.  I encountered almost none of this stuff, in Mass Effect 2 and 3. I'm worried aspects of these things will carry over to Inquisition. I don't want to play the game for 2-3 hours, and get stuck, lost, confused, bored, or just outright slaughtered all the time, and quit. The fact that party health does not regenerate, and healing potions and spells are limited, makes it worse for me. But, if I do get the game, Tactical View,  Focus, and playing as other party members, all sound like they will greatly help me. The basic idea of the game's combat, does sound awesome, though.

 

2. The romances. I understand Bioware wants to make their romances more realistic and believable, but I just think everyone is getting angry over their scores of bad decisions, which is completey understandable, in my opinion. Everyone getting angry is justfiable, I mean. I don't really see any romances that really catch my eye. Cassandra and Josephine seem like o.k. options, but they don't really stick out to me. But, if anyone is wondering, romances are not my main reason to play the game. The combat, exploration, and building/mainting the Inquisition are.

 

Those are my main gripes, but I do have a few small ones:

 

This game comes out the exact same day as Far Cry 4. I usually play 1 game, and complete most of it, before moving on to the next game. But I can manage.

 

I have no idea what class, race, or specialization to choose. I don't really replay games a dozen times. I mainly do 1 or 2 signature playthroughs, then mess around afterwards. I've read about everything on the Dragon Age wiki, but I'm not decided on anything.

 

I know I could wait for reviews, but I'm partially an impatient person. Besides, reviews are almost useless to me. Plenty of games that got great reviews, I hated or disliked, and some games that got mixed or bad reviews, I still loved.

 

Does anyone else feel this way? If anyone has done more research than me, or is much more familiar with the Dragon Age series than me, do you think I would like Inquisition? What do you guys think?

 

Anyway, thank you.

[katerinafm]

Well, since this is a forum that is mostly populated by hardcore fans of the Dragon Age games, I don't think you will find a lot of players that feel the same way you do here, hahah

 

Sounds to me like maybe the Dragon Age games might not be for you? If you didn't like both Dragon age Origins and 2, then I don't know what I could tell you. Maybe you'll like DA:I, maybe you won't. By what you've written, it's hard to give you a concrete answer. The dragon age story is great, and it's worth to look past flaws and things you might dislike with the combat in my opinion. But if the story and characters don't win you either, then what's left? I personally don't understand how you could have been lost in DAO and 2, as the journal and markers made everything pretty easy to understand.

 

Wait for reviews, or just keep watching the info and vids that are constantly coming out (like the new combat vid that came out just now), and make up your mind that way.

[Maria Caliban]

If you get frustrated when you're not sure what to do next, DA:I will be worse than the previous games.

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

Those are interesting criticisms.  As a huge fan of ME2 meself, I can understand why you might feel that way.  So let me break down why you didn't give DAO/2 a fair enough chance....

 

In ME the enemies you face do not share your ability pool or resources - in DAO at least, most enemies you face have abilities you can have, equipment you can use, and are basically NPC versions of you and your party.  This contributes to the difficulty.  On top of this, even in the higher ME difficulties, squad direction is normally fairly simple - the health bar the enemy has, the ability that removes that health bar, or takes them out of cover or staggers them, etc.  DAO has a much more intricate system to do with resistances, etc.  This all contributes to the difficulty.  Personally, I found it invigorating, a call back to games like Castle of the Winds where you had to save every two feet if you wanted to have a chance of winning.  Finally, if you get stuck actually finding what to do, the DA wiki contains walkthroughs of almost every quest, detailing approval loss/gain.  It's very handy for negotiating minefield discussions!  

 

Inquisition looks like it's making things a little more open to newcomers, at least in regard to tactics.  The tactical view now clearly displays health, weaknesses, resistances, and status effects, and has much better pathing.  This may help with your issues.  

 

As for the romances...yeah, I'm not sold on anyone yet either.  But we haven't seen many of the characters, and I had no idea I would like Merrill or Morrigan so much before I played DAO/2, or that I would seriously consider ditching Liara for Traynor in ME3.  We'll have to wait and see.  

[NextArishok]

I was coming off of DA2.  Now that I have seen more and more into about DA:I I think bioware killed it this time.  I will surely give this game a shot.

 

Also even though it might not have been perfect, the fact that they cared to even give a free new ending to ME3 when they didn't have to do it earned some respect points from me.  And the for the first real multiplayer attempt with ME3 they killed it again.  I love that games MP.

[CrimsonN7]

If you're not a fan of the fantasy genre I don't think you'll enjoy this series much, seems to me you're more of a sci-fi fan, hence why you prefer the ME series.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Its not a matter of being on the fence its a matter of just not trusting all the information being handed out. Between the mess that was ME3's "There won't be an A, B, or C ending" and the lazily created poorly written garbage that was DA2 I'm going to wait a month or two to see what the reviews are before buying it.

 

I got burned twice and I'm not about to grab the skillet until I see others grab it first.

[Magdalena11]

What are you asking for?  Do you want a guarantee that you won't regret shelling out $70 for entertainment?  I'm really not sure anyone can give you that.  It's a great game and it's not everyone's thing.  If you haven't liked the last 2 there's a pretty good chance you won't like this one either.  If you thought there was room for growth, give it a shot and all you've got to lose is something you'll replace eventually (i.e. money.)  If you want someone to tell you to play it, I will.  I think it's going to be fantastic.  If you are looking for validation, acceptance, and friendship, you already have it.  I guess there's really nothing else to say.

[Icy Magebane]

You had that much trouble on the easiest difficulty level?  I mean, yeah ME2's leveling system was extremely simple, but DA isn't that complicated.  I think maybe your tactics weren't set up properly.  You should start off with something simple like "self, health < 50%, use healing potion," or "enemy, target of controlled party member, attack."  If you want to give it another shot, this forum has many, many tactics threads and build guides to look at.

 

Anyway, just reading through the OP, I think it might be best to rent Inquisition first, and then make a decision.  It's not worth risking that much money if you are going into it with a very low probability that you'll enjoy the game.

 

edit:  Oh, and try not to waste money in DA games... it's very limited and most of the stuff you can buy isn't worth the price.  Check the wiki for info on the best weapons and armors and what they'll cost.  Also, buy any and all spell tomes, skill tomes, etc and only use them on the main character.  Little things like that are how you succeed in DA.  Eventually it should come together... I hope.

[Vroom Vroom]

I think that you should wait until release, read a few reviews and watch a few gameplay videos on youtube. If you are still uncertain you could always wait until it goes on sale or reaches the bargain bin.

 

Edit: Also, RPG's are something that take time to get a feel for and properly understand all the mechanics. So don't get too discouraged.

[Anarya]

If I were you, I'd play FarCry 4 first and wait for reviews on DA:I. See if the reviewers' complaints line up with what you didn't like about DA 1&2, or if they put your fears to rest. Honestly you don't really lose anything by waiting if you are that torn about the decision to buy.

 

Myself, I've already preordered DA:I, but that's because I didn't experience the same issues you did and I'm fairly certain I'll enjoy this game. 

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

 

 

And for the record, I liked DA 2, so you can stick it where the sun don't shine

A fellow person who liked DA2?  On BSN?  I must have entered the Negaverse!  But seriously, that 'Bioware fucked up, ooh we can't trust them' argument doesn't even work if you think DA2 was steaming garbage.  As far as I can tell it's a different team, working for longer, with loads of people riding them about 'ooh we can't trust them'.  

[KC_Prototype]

Nope, matter of fact, I can't wait for this game!

[Chernaya]

Interesting... I personally never had much trouble at all with combat, specs and finding my way around in the Dragon Age series, but did a little bit in the Mass Effect series. I guess this may just come down to different play-style and what we're used to. There's a quest log, map, ect though that makes it pretty obvious for you when you're stuck, and I'm assuming DA:I will have this as well and probably even better than before. 

 

From what you're saying though about not liking the first 2 installments, I would wait if I were you. I'm not sure how vastly different DA:I will be from Origins or 2, but it seems that may depend on how much you like it. Wait a bit, look at other people's opinions, look at some gameplay, and then decide. 

[MisterJB]

"Past flaws from Dragon Age and ME games. In the original Dragon Age games, certain things frustrated me. Sometimes, I would have absolutely no idea of what I was suppossed to do, where I was supposed to go, or what the next step was, mostly in the main story mode. Other times I would get lost, stuck, or confused. I would search Youtube, Gamefaqs, and anything else I could think of, but nothing helped me."

 

How? Completely serious question.

I love the games but the gameplay is all very straigthfoward. Follow the corridor and kill everything that gets in the way.

[Vindicare175]

Nope , already pre-ordered and eagerly waiting for November. 

[CrimsonN7]

Myself, I've already preordered DA:I, but that's because I didn't experience the same issues you did and I'm fairly certain I'll enjoy this game. 

 

I have never pre-ordered a Bioware game myself, oh I will buy this game tho but I want to read some reviews first before I skip down to Gamestop. 

[ISpeakTheTruth]

 

And for the record, I liked DA 2, so you can stick it where the sun don't shine

 

Then you my friend like bad games and you have my sympathy.