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[tmp7704]

Orsino was male

And Anders. Don't forget Anders

[leaguer of one]

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I thought he was replying to the red bit, which started 'in a completely non-sexist world', to which he replied 'we already have that.'

It wasn't clear that he was talking about thedas to me, but I apologise if I misunderstood.

I would have to be very blind, arrogant, and old to think that way or even say it.

[spirosz]

It is exceptionally important to have thoose no name lackys as women as it depicts that even the non-important sword and shield mercenary people are also both men and women, women are not only leaders and badass mages, some women are just random trash mobs too.

 

and.... we know this, but I don't believe Bioware's goal is for you to remember the nameless mobs, but what the battle leads to - so I still don't find investing these type of resources necessary.  I don't care if they're all female or male, personally - my main attraction to the battles, is usually the leader and why they're fighting their own battles.  

[Rawgrim]

And giant spiders shouldn't be able to exist the way they do if Thedosian physics/atmospheric makeup are the same as Earth's.

 

Yes they should. The lore explains why and how this is the case.

[InfinitePaths]

It is exceptionally important to have thoose no name lackys as women as it depicts that even the non-important sword and shield mercenary people are also both men and women, women are not only leaders and badass mages, some women are just random trash mobs too.

To add on that, it's also very psychological and subconcious.

 

Imagine the following scenario:

 

There are a bunch of drunk rouges attacking you in a tavern because you spilled their ale on accident.

 

It is very important on a subconcious level to depict a world where both men and women are useless drunk scum that attack you, not just one gender.

 

In 90% of conversation when people are talking about a genderless spider or a yeti when playing a video game with friends, they use the word "he" because they are use to every generic NPC being male

[Samahl]

And giant spiders shouldn't be able to exist the way they do if Thedosian physics/atmospheric makeup are the same as Earth's.

 

Here's why, btw: http://www.nbcnews.c...nt-giant-sized/

[leaguer of one]

Orsino was male

Orsino didn't have a magical sword that turn things alive and shoot lazer beams.

[tmp7704]

and.... we know this, but I don't believe Bioware's goal is for you to remember the nameless mobs, but what the battle leads to - so I still don't find investing these type of resources necessary.  I don't care if they're all female or male, personally - my main attraction to the battles, is usually the leader and why they're fighting their own battles.

Well, if you truly don't care then there's no point in objecting to request of these who do, no? If they get what they want and you don't care, that's net gain.

[Pateu]

The way people use English is all that the definition of a word is. That's why definitions change.

 

If the gross majority were to do so, yeah. But you don't make up the majority of people that speak English.

[Rawgrim]

Here's why, btw: http://www.nbcnews.c...nt-giant-sized/

 

 

Check the codex an the world of thedas book. Giant spiders are explained very well.

[Rawgrim]

Orsino didn't have a magical sword that turn things alive and shoot lazer beams.

 

No but he was involved with killing your mom.

[spirosz]

Well, if you truly don't care then there's no point in objecting to request of these who do, no? If they get what they want and you don't care, that's net gain.

 

True, but I like to argue, haha.  

[Samahl]

Yes they should. The lore explains why and how this is the case.

 

I just looked it up, and apparently, giant spiders are just possessed spiders? I wasn't aware of that.

[andy6915]

That's my point: dragons are physically impossible, by Earth standards. We don't know how their flight is powered - it could be magic, or it could be special Thedas physics. Either way, why is it so easy to accept one "physical impossibility", and not the other?

 

Uh... It's not so easy. I don't agree with the guy you're arguing. I was just correcting the point about biology, the greater argument behind that is something I'm not touching. I already did a very inflammatory post telling Pateu to shut up, even got another warning point for it. So don't think I'm on his side.

[Pateu]

No but he was involved with killing your mom.

 

That punchline.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

I would have to be very blind, arrogant, and old to think that way or even say it.

Then, as stated, you have my apologies

[Rawgrim]

I just looked it up, and apparently, giant spiders are just possessed spiders? I wasn't aware of that.

 

[Pateu]

I just looked it up, and apparently, giant spiders are just possessed spiders? I wasn't aware of that.

 

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

 

It also shows there are a lot of shitty mages in Thedas. The rate of possession is disturbingly high.

[Allan Schumacher]

Is 1 in 5 common?

[leaguer of one]

To add on that, it's also very psychological and subconcious.

 

Imagine the following scenario:

 

There are a bunch of drunk rouges attacking you in a tavern because you spilled their ale on accident.

 

It is very important on a subconcious level to depict a world where both men and women are useless drunk scum that attack you, not just one gender.

 

In 90% of conversation when people are talking about a genderless spider or a yeti in a video game, they use the word "he" because they are use to every generic NPC being male

Ok. I'll give you that. Their more male drunk scum then woman. But Jarvia can be a bit...rapey.

[andy6915]

 

It's not the only way. The codex notes that it might be the fade itself that corrupts them into being giant, so no direct possession required. It's interesting when the codex itself notes there being some controversy in its explanations.

[Rawgrim]

Morrigan is abit sexist, come to think of it. So it does happen in Thedas too.

[andy6915]

Is 1 in 5 common?

 

Well... Yes. I guess it depends on context. I mean think if a new airborne disease broke out and the fatality rate was 1 in 5, I would call dying to that disease to be pretty common at those numbers.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

If the gross majority were to do so, yeah. But you don't make up the majority of people that speak English.

I think the majority would agree that 'exceptional' does not just mean 'unusual'; it is far, far stronger, and while that wouldn't matter in arguments of the non-tangible such as 'I think murder is exceptionally wrong', in arguments where you say 'women who can fight are exceptional' it gives a different view.

If you replace the word 'exceptional' there with 'extremely uncommon', as that's what the word implies, then it most certainly creates a different sense.

If you arrived in a mysterious town you knew nothing about, an they said 'visitors are uncommon' vs 'visitors are extremely uncommon', right off the bat we have differing information about the area in our mind.

Anyway I should go as my husband just got back from work really late and I need to talk to him about something before bed.

[tmp7704]

Morrigan is abit sexist, come to think of it. So it does happen in Thedas too.

Morrigan lives in a swamp with her main source of knowledge about everything being her mother whom she only sees using men as tools. So she's quite... exceptional in that regard.