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[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

EDIT: hit quote instead of edit foolishly. Night all.

[leaguer of one]

No but he was involved with killing your mom.

So knowing the guy means he's involved?

 

He hide him from Meradith out of paranoia that she would crackdown on mages because of it. But still she had her chance to find the guy on his own but was way too busy cracking down on the mage to little to the subordinate who was traking the guy down.

[Rawgrim]

Morrigan lives in a swamp with her main source of knowledge about everything being her mother whom she only sees using men as tools. So she's quite... exceptional in that regard.

 

Sten too. And Oghren.

[Allan Schumacher]

Well... Yes. I guess it depends on context. I mean think if a new airborne disease broke out and the fatality rate was 1 in 5, I would call dying to that disease to be pretty common at those numbers.

 

The context isn't an airborne disease.  What's the measuring stick for whether or not this context is common?

[Pateu]

So knowing the guy means he's involved?

 

He hide him from Meradith out of paranoia that she would crackdown on mages because of it. But still she had her chance to find the guy on his own but was way too busy cracking down on the mage to little to the subordinate who was traking the guy down.

 

He knew the murders were going on. He didn't tell Meredith because he feared it would put His circle in a wrong position.

 

So he is unwittingly involved in Hawke's mom's death.

[Rawgrim]

So knowing the guy means he's involved?

 

He hide him from Meradith out of paranoia that she would crackdown on mages because of it. But still she had her chance to find the guy on his own but was way too busy cracking down on the mage to little to the subordinate who was traking the guy down.

 

The paranoia really kicked in when she got the lyrium bit. And no wonder she was paranoid. every damn mage in town used blood magic or got possessed.

[Rawgrim]

He knew the murders were going on. He didn't tell Meredith because he feared it would put His circle in a wrong position.

 

So he is unwittingly involved in Hawke's mom's death.

 

More willingly closed his eyes to it, I`d say.

[andy6915]

The context isn't an airborne disease.  What's the measuring stick for whether or not this context is common?

 

1 in 5 soldiers being women would mean women soldiers is common.

[Allan Schumacher]

1 in 5 soldiers being women would mean women soldiers is common.

 

So what is the measuring stick?  What is uncommon?

[tmp7704]

Sten too. And Oghren.

Oghren is a pervert, but I don't recall him ever making comments I'd consider sexist (in the sense of negative views/generalization towards the gender) Sten has the views held by the culture he belongs to, yeah. But I've been under impression when people talk about lack of sexist attitudes in Thedas etc they generally mean nations/cultures other than qunari.

[Rawgrim]

We are getting close to 1 in 5 soldiers being female up here (Norway) now. Males need to serve for 1 year in mandatory army duty. Women can apply to do it as well, and now more and more are.

[Rawgrim]

Oghren is a pervert, but I don't recall him ever making comments I'd consider sexist (in the sense of negative views/generalization towards the gender) Sten has the views held by the culture he belongs to, yeah. But I've been under impression when people talk about lack of sexist attitudes in Thedas etc they generally mean nations/cultures other than qunari.

 

Just saying it pops up now and again, for whatever reason.

[andy6915]

So what is the measuring stick?  What is uncommon?

 

I feel like you're just trying to turn this into an argument...

 

Anyway, 1 in 7 would be uncommon and 1 in 10 would be rare.

[Pateu]

More willingly closed his eyes to it, I`d say.

And doing that today usually ends with a harsh sentence.

[themikefest]

So knowing the guy means he's involved?

 

He hide him from Meradith out of paranoia that she would crackdown on mages because of it. But still she had her chance to find the guy on his own but was way too busy cracking down on the mage to little to the subordinate who was traking the guy down.

Why couldn't he of gone to the city guard about it? Or passed a secret message to someone that could give the message to the guard, which would most likely be given to Aveline who may have the oppurtunity to catch the guy before Hawke's mother was killed?

[tmp7704]

So what is the measuring stick?  What is uncommon?

Apparently, if some recent studies are anything to go by, men tend to perceive situations where ~17% of the cast are women as "there's equal amounts of women and men". So yeah, in that sense --ridiculous as it is-- these men would see having 20% women as "over representation".

[Allan Schumacher]

I feel like you're just trying to turn this into an argument...

 

Anyway, 1 in 7 would be uncommon and 1 in 10 would be rare.

 

It's not an argument?  It certainly seems like a disagreement and I see people pulling out the word exceptional in reference to being uncommon.

 

The OP is asking for 1 in 5 warriors to be women.  You're saying that 20 fighters out of 100 is common, but 14 fighters out of 100 is uncommon.  10 fighters out of 100 is rare.

 

Are these values simply gut feelings on your part?

[Elhanan]

The context isn't an airborne disease.  What's the measuring stick for whether or not this context is common?

As I recall from my days as a DM; 1-2/d6?

[InfinitePaths]

We are getting close to 1 in 5 soldiers being female up here (Norway) now. Males need to serve for 1 year in mandatory army duty. Women can apply to do it as well, and now more and more are.

 

The mandatory army duty is also extremely sexist and unfair towards men.

 

But that is a whole another (off) topic...

[leaguer of one]

He knew the murders were going on. He didn't tell Meredith because he feared it would put His circle in a wrong position.

 

So he is unwittingly involved in Hawke's mom's death.

In her death, not her murder.

[Allan Schumacher]

Apparently, if some recent studies are anything to go by, men tend to perceive situations where ~17% of the cast are women as "there's equal amounts of women and men". So yeah, in that sense --ridiculous as it is-- these men would see having 20% women as "over representation".

 

I haven't actually seen the study (just references) for that, but I have seen that and similar stuff.  PBS mentions an experiment where a teacher forced themselves to give equal focus to boy/girl students, and the boys felt the girls were receiving 90% of the attention.

 

Though if the measurement of commonality is based upon the perception of someone, I'm naturally going to be somewhat skeptical that that perception is completely untainted by bias.

[leaguer of one]

Why couldn't he of gone to the city guard about it? Or passed a secret message to someone that could give the message to the guard, which would most likely be given to Aveline who may have the oppurtunity to catch the guy before Hawke's mother was killed?

Because it would still go back to the templers.  The issue was about not having the templars find out about this blood mage. The guard has to report it to the templers no matter what.

[Mornmagor]

I don't understand something.

 

Since this is a fantasy setting, and in this fantasy setting, females and males are equal warriors, like in almost every RPG, why is it important how much is the % of women warriors?

 

It could be anything, based on demographics of an area, on special occasions(like a female only guild), or something else.

 

So i would just say, the female random fighters or whatever, should as many as the writers or the story and world developers feel that they need to be.

[Rawgrim]

Because it would still go back to the templers.  The issue was about not having the templars find out about this blood mage. The guard has to report it to the templers no matter what.

 

So he hid ONE bloodmage. But the other 200 that roams the streets wern't important.

[andy6915]

It's not an argument?  It certainly seems like a disagreement and I see people pulling out the word exceptional in reference to being uncommon.

 

The OP is asking for 1 in 5 warriors to be women.  You're saying that 20 fighters out of 100 is common, but 14 fighters out of 100 is uncommon.  10 fighters out of 100 is rare.

 

Are these values simply gut feelings on your part?

 

Gut feelings. I'm merely saying I have no problem with 1 in 5. Hell, 50/50 split between sexes would only bug me because that wasn't the ratio of past DA and would feel like a contradiction in lore. I don't mind women in fighting roles in DA at all, and I've done more female Wardens and Hawke's than male ones.