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[Roninbarista]

It may have grown from the Meredith statue.

That's a bit morbid.

I can see them thinking if they harness the lyrium off of her corpse, they won't fall prey to its destructive effects. Surprise.

[Reznore57]

It may have grown from the Meredith statue.

 

I hope we can find out what happened to it...also the red lyrium idol?

Was it just regular  red lyrium or this idol was special?

 

Also I think the darkspawn avoided the Lost Thaig , maybe that's why the wardens wanted to know what was going on in here.

 

Anyway there's a lot of shady things about red lyrium....(also normal lyrium) .

I wonder if red lyirum and blue lyrium "sings" the same song.

[Lucidae]

Off-topic, I know, but Sten not having horns is accurate to lore.  David Gaider stated it's a rare genetic mutation in qunari
Only if you had one eye, one horn, and could fly.

It was a retcon, but they came up with a way to try and excuse it. Every Qunari prior to DA2 doesn't have horns. There is also never any talk about why Sten doesn't have horns or talk about how most other Qunari have horns within the DAO.

[Lucidae]

I hope we can find out what happened to it...also the red lyrium idol?
Was it just regular  red lyrium or this idol was special?
 
Also I think the darkspawn avoided the Lost Thaig , maybe that's why the wardens wanted to know what was going on in here.
 
Anyway there's a lot of shady things about red lyrium....(also normal lyrium) .
I wonder if red lyirum and blue lyrium "sings" the same song.

I think Red lyrium sings a different song since it drives people to insanity rapidly. The insanity it drives them too seems much more violent or negative vs. what blue lyrium causes. There was a dwarf merchant in orzammar that was a lil whacko after too much lyrium exposure, but he was still a nice guy.

[TheodoricFriede]

It was a retcon, but they came up with a way to try and excuse it. Every Qunari prior to DA2 doesn't have horns. There is also never any talk about why Sten doesn't have horns or talk about how most other Qunari have horns within the DAO.

Its very similar to how the Star Trek series handled klingons. In The Original Series they looked very different than The Next Generation.

 

They gave an excuse of "several generations of klingons suffered from a mutation", but they still acknowledged it as a retcon.

 

The qunari are literally the exact same scenario.

 

I think Red lyrium sings a different song since it drives people to insanity rapidly. The insanity it drives them too seems much more violent or negative vs. what blue lyrium causes. There was a dwarf merchant in orzammar that was a lil whacko after too much lyrium exposure, but he was still a nice guy.

If anything red lyrium is more like "corrupted magic" then Anti-Magic.

[Spicen]

Red lyrium's song are more sultry i tell u

[EmperorSahlertz]

What makes you think that Red Lyrium is "anti-magic"?

[Spicen]

fact is lyrium is like an addictive drug

[Maria Caliban]

What makes you think that Red Lyrium is "anti-magic"?

The PC Gamer UK article describes it as a potent, dangerous anti-magical substance. Mike has said it 'depends on what you do with it.'

[powerXmad]

Here is an analogy that I think explains it clearly
Red lyrium is to demons as blue lyrium is to spirits

[Lulupab]

If I remember correctly the codex mentions the spirits of the fade have affinity with Lyrium and like to listen to its song, I suspect the lyrium in the fade is blue. Anyway it also mentions that the spirits can manipulate Lyrium and give it shape. Justice seems that way in Awakening.

 

We haven't seen any demon remotely interested in Lyrium.

[themageguy]

Red lyrium was mentioned in Ashe lady insanitys interview with Mr. Gaider.

http://www.ladyinsan...terview-gaymerx

its a different energy source. Kind of the difference between green and red kryptonite. Lol

[Daerog]

But it is still lyrium, right? Which means the Fade is involved, yes? So, difference between red and blue is like difference between demon and spirit?

 

Maybe it is negative magic like the blight/taint is like a negative Fade. Maybe?

 

Maybe it is the manifestation of the Fade's corruption? I have no idea, I have more confidence in my blight theories than this stuff.

[Lucidae]

Its very similar to how the Star Trek series handled klingons. In The Original Series they looked very different than The Next Generation.

 

They gave an excuse of "several generations of klingons suffered from a mutation", but they still acknowledged it as a retcon.

 

The qunari are literally the exact same scenario.

 

If anything red lyrium is more like "corrupted magic" then Anti-Magic.

 

Maybe I read what you said incorrectly, but I feel like your post was meant to debate with me even though we are pretty much saying the same thing/don't have different opinions about it xD

[leaguer of one]

Yes, it is.

No is not. It's a magic source. It's a more concentrated version of blue lyruim.

[leaguer of one]

I hope we can find out what happened to it...also the red lyrium idol?

Was it just regular  red lyrium or this idol was special?

 

Also I think the darkspawn avoided the Lost Thaig , maybe that's why the wardens wanted to know what was going on in here.

 

Anyway there's a lot of shady things about red lyrium....(also normal lyrium) .

I wonder if red lyirum and blue lyrium "sings" the same song.

My bet is that it had an old god in it.

[Damate]

The reference to red lyrium as "anti-magic" and the correlation of blue/red lyrium to green/red kryptonite are both interesting and maybe not as diseperate as it may seem initially. Especially if the anti-magic aspect isn't absolute but "depends on how it's used" as a dev stated (insert question mark as I'm not sure where/when Laidlaw said that? I'm tossing it in because the OP poster mentioned it!)

I have to brush off my DC memory cells, but isn't red kryptonite basically cosmically corrupted green kryptonite, changed by passing through a red-tinged space anomaly en route to earth? It's properties are far, far more chaotic than green kryptonite, often skewing victims drastically. Red lyrium may similarly be corrupted/altered blue lyrium, run amock and evoking side effects far, far more volatile and entropic than blue lyrium. Random/chaotic destructiveness vs the dynamic - but somewhat more predictable/controllable - properties of blue lyrium. Pitting one form of lyrium against the other may indeed result in a neutralization, which could be termed "anti-magic"... But given the chaotic nature of red lyrium neutralization may not always be the case, just one of many possibilities.

Meh, that probably made no sense it's late. Regardless, I find the whole idea of lyrium (all forms) and such fascinating and am looking forward to learning much more (hopefully!) about it in game. Stuff like this actually interests me more than questions of warring mages/Templars, religions, civil wars, etc! So I hope we get to delve into some of these mysteries.

[Maria Caliban]

I asked him on twitter.

No is not. It's a magic source. It's a more concentrated version of blue lyruim.

1. What is your source for it being a 'more concentrated version?'

2. I asked Mike and he said it depends what you do with it. So yes, it is an anti-magical substance but not always.

[TheodoricFriede]

2. I asked Mike and he said it depends what you do with it. So yes, it is an anti-magical substance but not always.

So its exactly like blue lyrium then. Only more potent. And can drive people insane.

 

Magical.

 

 

Maybe I read what you said incorrectly, but I feel like your post was meant to debate with me even though we are pretty much saying the same thing/don't have different opinions about it xD

Oh. It seems that i misread. My apologies.

[Boss Fog]

So its exactly like blue lyrium then. Only more potent. And can drive people insane.

 

Magical.

 

David Gaider described in an interview with Lady Insanity Red Lyrim as more akin to Red Kryptonite with Green Kryptonite more like blue lyrium.  Red and Green Kryptonite do very different things.  So take that for what you will.

[Lulupab]

Also carefully drinking/injecting Lyrium with a certain method and years of training grants anti-magic abilities. Don't expect anyone holding Lyrium to get "anti-magic" abilities, something that templars train for years to get.

 

Interestingly Pride demons have the same abilities as Templars, they can disrupt and dispel magic. One can think like blood magic the Templar secrets first came from demons. Because as we hear from the Templar in front of the Chantry in Denerim, taking blue lyrium for extended time leads to huge memory losses and the Templar near him actually suffers this fate. 

[Icy Magebane]

Also carefully drinking/injecting Lyrium with a certain method and years of training grants anti-magic abilities. Don't expect anyone holding Lyrium to get "anti-magic" abilities, something that templars train for years to get.

 

Interestingly Pride demons have the same abilities as Templars, they can disrupt and dispel magic. One can think like blood magic the Templar secrets first came from demons. Because as we hear from the Templar in front of the Chantry in Denerim, taking blue lyrium for extended time leads to huge memory losses and the Templar near him actually suffers this fate. 

That's a bit of a stretch...

[Lulupab]

That's a bit of a stretch...

 

Its entirely possible as the origin of Templar abilities is completely unknown.