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The Witcher 3 has Decapitations shadows of Mordor has Decapitations Remember when Dragon Age Had Decapitations?


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I think it's natural to compare Dragon Age with other BioWare RPGs and with non-BioWare RPGs that are well-known and popular. However, the Witcher specifically seems to cause a lot of animosity and arguments on this forum and others.

something I also find really interesting



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something I also find really interesting

because the 2 universes can be compared in a number of easy ways



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because the 2 universes can be compared in a number of easy ways

not really, the Witcher is a dark fantasy universe that deals with mind boggling cruelty and warfare, the dragon age universe causes arguments over whether there are enough non-white characters



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I would like an execution  finish of elite to boss enemies not too dissimilar from how it worked in DAO I always made I sure if I was playing a warrior or Rouge against such an enemy I would land the finishing blow, just to see those animations also I think it's a near little reward for killing something big.  Watching enemies explode into gibs in DA2 while fun removed that feeling of growing momentum against a horde of badguys or powerful foe and only some Bosses got the execution treatment, some died by cutscene after their health hit zero. 

 

Also I havent seen much blood splatter dunno about you it ain't Dragon Age without ludicrous amounts of post battle spatter that no one ever notices in a conversation



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People should be asking whether or not heads will disappear when decapitated. :P


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not really, the Witcher is a dark fantasy universe that deals with mind boggling cruelty and warfare, the dragon age universe causes arguments over whether there are enough non-white characters

nono, not in that way

 

as an example look at the elves from each universe (im not going into the whole issue the elf thread is about)

the dalish and scoia'tael could be carbon copies of each other more or less

-nomadic with no static residence

-world renowned bowmen

-big hatred towards humans to the point skirmishes can break out just in the presence of human populations

-tend to stick to the more heavily forested areas

-same debate over whether they are the victims of human oppression or just glorified bandits

 

and thats just the elves of the universe, yeah the witcher certainly is the darker of the universes but there are a lot of easy comparisons to be made, and people do the whole DAvsTW is evidence of that


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It's not hard to find the information for what did the damage to you if they wanted to, given that it's all listed in the log.  I'd be skeptical if it was an engine limitation as opposed to something done simply to be funny/entertaining.

I'd have to say if the goal was to be funny/entertaining then it really missed the mark. Although it could be because it felt very cheaply/lazily done, maybe if there was more detail/fidelity to it (like, if it looked as if the enemies actually do get cut in half with the sword swings and such rather than the weird body part explosions we got) then my reaction possibly would've been different. Hard to tell at this point.
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nono, not in that way

 

as an example look at the elves from each universe (im not going into the whole issue the elf thread is about)

the dalish and scoia'tael could be carbon copies of each other more or less

-nomadic with no static residence

-world renowned bowmen

-big hatred towards humans to the point skirmishes can break out just in the presence of human populations

-tend to stick to the more heavily forested areas

-same debate over whether they are the victims of human oppression or just glorified bandits

 

and thats just the elves of the universe, yeah the witcher certainly is the darker of the universes but there are a lot of easy comparisons to be made, and people do the whole DAvsTW is evidence of that

 

Mages are treated way differently, though. And the dwarves are different too.



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nono, not in that way

 

as an example look at the elves from each universe (im not going into the whole issue the elf thread is about)

the dalish and scoia'tael could be carbon copies of each other more or less

-nomadic with no static residence

-world renowned bowmen

-big hatred towards humans to the point skirmishes can break out just in the presence of human populations

-tend to stick to the more heavily forested areas

-same debate over whether they are the victims of human oppression or just glorified bandits

 

and thats just the elves of the universe, yeah the witcher certainly is the darker of the universes but there are a lot of easy comparisons to be made, and people do the whole DAvsTW is evidence of that

 

nono, not in that way

 

as an example look at the elves from each universe (im not going into the whole issue the elf thread is about)

the dalish and scoia'tael could be carbon copies of each other more or less

-nomadic with no static residence

-world renowned bowmen

-big hatred towards humans to the point skirmishes can break out just in the presence of human populations

-tend to stick to the more heavily forested areas

-same debate over whether they are the victims of human oppression or just glorified bandits

 

and thats just the elves of the universe, yeah the witcher certainly is the darker of the universes but there are a lot of easy comparisons to be made, and people do the whole DAvsTW is evidence of that

The Scoia'tael aren't even elves only. Scoia'tael are fighting commandos of non-humans(mainly elves and dwarfs) put together to fight against humans.



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Mages of the Witcher universe are pretty close to Tevinter mages, in the sense they are the ones who effectively control the world. They are a bit more subtle about it, though, not going as far as placing themselves openly as the rulers, and the genocides and/or questionable experiments are usually performed somewhere where it doesn't produce bad PR.

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nono, not in that way
 
as an example look at the elves from each universe (im not going into the whole issue the elf thread is about)
the dalish and scoia'tael could be carbon copies of each other more or less
-nomadic with no static residence
-world renowned bowmen
-big hatred towards humans to the point skirmishes can break out just in the presence of human populations
-tend to stick to the more heavily forested areas
-same debate over whether they are the victims of human oppression or just glorified bandits
 
and thats just the elves of the universe, yeah the witcher certainly is the darker of the universes but there are a lot of easy comparisons to be made, and people do the whole DAvsTW is evidence of that


Amusingly, despite the Witcher being the darker universe, I have far less hope for the elves in Thedas. The Witcher elves have to batten down the hatches and survive, but will never have to face an Exalted Match because the human nations don't unify that way.

And elven biology in Thedas will always be a problem. If the situation of the city elves improved and they were able to freely mingle with humans, that would be a bad thing as more elves would have relations with human.
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Amusingly, despite the Witcher being the darker universe, I have far less hope for the elves in Thedas. The Witcher elves have to batten down the hatches and survive, but will never have to face an Exalted Match because the human nations don't unify that way.

The lack of unification in the Witcher universe is mostly because there's simply no need for it -- their elves are already on the brink of extinction, reduced to small bands who either hide in woods and die out of cold/hunger, or come and seek death on spears of random town guards and such if they resent the former prospect too much. If the elves ever posed a significant threat the human nations would unite, just like they did unite against the southern (human) empire that sought to conquer them all at some point.

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Amusingly, despite the Witcher being the darker universe, I have far less hope for the elves in Thedas. The Witcher elves have to batten down the hatches and survive, but will never have to face an Exalted Match because the human nations don't unify that way.

And elven biology in Thedas will always be a problem. If the situation of the city elves improved and they were able to freely mingle with humans, that would be a bad thing as more elves would have relations with human.

Actually from a biological view the elves in the witcher world are screwed. Only the younger female elves are fertile and most of the younger elves died when
Aelirenn led them against the humans.
http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Aelirenn

 

They are a dying race. (at least the Aen'Seidhe elves)


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I'd have to say if the goal was to be funny/entertaining then it really missed the mark. Although it could be because it felt very cheaply/lazily done, maybe if there was more detail/fidelity to it (like, if it looked as if the enemies actually do get cut in half with the sword swings and such rather than the weird body part explosions we got) then my reaction possibly would've been different. Hard to tell at this point.

 

Um, we're talking about Baldur's Gate 2 in this tangent.



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Um, we're talking about Baldur's Gate 2 in this tangent.

I know :) My comment was for both to BG2 and DA2, since their approach generated pretty much the same impression.

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I'd have to say if the goal was to be funny/entertaining then it really missed the mark. Although it could be because it felt very cheaply/lazily done, maybe if there was more detail/fidelity to it (like, if it looked as if the enemies actually do get cut in half with the sword swings and such rather than the weird body part explosions we got) then my reaction possibly would've been different. Hard to tell at this point.

 

Rpgs didn't really have that many animations back then, though. Can't really judge stuff like that by today's standards.



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I thought the gibbed bodies in BG were amusing until I encountered that poor orge at the fair that the magician kept exploding while the orge begged for him to stop. :(

Then I couldn't enjoy them anymore.
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Rpgs didn't really have that many animations back then, though. Can't really judge stuff like that by today's standards.

My standards might've been affected by Fallout games which, while roughly from the same era and using similar technology, had quite elaborate animations for blowing enemies apart.
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I know :) My comment was for both to BG2 and DA2, since their approach generated pretty much the same impression.

 

Your argument, in my impression (since I didn't work here during BG2), seems less valid towards BG2 due to the nature of working with 2D animations.  But maybe it's just because I'm not familiar with people referring to stuff that happened in BG2 as lazily done.

 

Regardless, the enemies turned into little giblets and the screen shook.  Why do you think it was added?


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My standards might've been affected by Fallout games which, while roughly from the same era and using similar technology, had quite elaborate animations for blowing enemies apart.

 

Might be they had more time to do it. The BG games had alot of spell effects and such, after all. And probably alot more creatures with different death animations.


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Regardless, the enemies turned into little giblets and the screen shook.  Why do you think it was added?

I accept that it was likely done because the person responsible for it thought it was funny/entertaining, like you said. I was just commenting the "humour" of that wasn't working for me personally.

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Amusingly, despite the Witcher being the darker universe, I have far less hope for the elves in Thedas. The Witcher elves have to batten down the hatches and survive, but will never have to face an Exalted Match because the human nations don't unify that way.

And elven biology in Thedas will always be a problem. If the situation of the city elves improved and they were able to freely mingle with humans, that would be a bad thing as more elves would have relations with human.

there's always nilfgaard with emperor charles dance ^^

 

and yeah there *are* differances that im not disputing, im just giving a reason as to why they are compared so often



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Nilfgaard actually treats the elven population with far more respect than the northerners do. Their speech is based on the elder language, and I believe they take pride in having some elven blood running in their veins.
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I'd be cool with decapitations. If they aren't there I'll settle for my corporeal explosions.



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I did like the finishing moves from DAO, so hope they return in DAI.


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