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I agree with all of that Mcfly.

 

To clarify, what I meant by 'Mass Effecty' wasn't about the film overall, but certain parts of it that could really be shared by sci-fi pre-Mass Effect anyway. It was all those callbacks to 80s sci-fi aesthetic, plot, cheese. Even ME1 had some of that cheese. I agree that I'd want Mass to be overall more gritty and serious, at least most of the time.

 

 

I wanted to see this as a 9/10 but eh, I can hope that a potential (? seems like it?) sequel ends up even better than the first.



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Don't get me wrong. I had a great time. Definitely worth the price of admission. And I'm sure I'll get it on Blu-Ray at some point. As a sci fi adventure, it holds up. I can't help but think that a good deal of the hype came from the Marvel fandom. Which I shouldn't have been surprised by or paid attention to in the first place when I'm not a fan of any other Marvel films and all of them are mega hyped up.

 

Critics giving it 9 and 10 are being prisoners of the moment imo. But it's definitely a quality summer blockbuster (unlike most of the trash in theaters). It's not a great overall film. I can't stress enough how weak the central narrative is. But I was thoroughly entertained for 'most' of the 2 hours.



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Don't get me wrong. I had a great time. Definitely worth the price of admission. And I'm sure I'll get it on Blu-Ray at some point. As a sci fi adventure, it holds up. I can't help but think that a good deal of the hype came from the Marvel fandom. Which I shouldn't have been surprised by or paid attention to in the first place when I'm not a fan of any other Marvel films and all of them are mega hyped up.

 

Critics giving it 9 and 10 are being prisoners of the moment imo. But it's definitely a quality summer blockbuster (unlike most of the trash in theaters). It's not a great overall film. I can't stress enough how weak the central narrative is. But I was thoroughly entertained for 'most' of the 2 hours.

I'm not sure whether I agree with you or not. When you are criticising the 'narrative', are you talking about the dialogue or just the main plot? I thought the dialogue between he five main characters was the strength of the movie so in that case I couldn't disagree more. But if you are simply talking about the main plot I would completely agree. I have no problem giving it a 9/10 though. It's a lot of fun, very funny, and the lacking central plot doesn't really matter too much because it was always relegated to the side.



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Plot....not dialogue.

 

 

You know, the story....it was quite lackluster. I made that clear on the last page with my semi-review.


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Just needed the clarification. When I hear someone talk about the narrative I would assume it would have to include dialogue. It turns out we agree.



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Just needed the clarification. When I hear someone talk about the narrative I would assume it would have to include dialogue. It turns out we agree.

 haha no doubt. Sorry man...re-reading my last post now, my last sentence (the "I made that clear" part) could come off as hostile, I guess. I certainly didn't mean it that way. Just wanted to point you in the direction of my full opinion of the film in case you missed it.



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In seeing the movie and how make up, special effects and world creation was used ( i.e. the place in the movie where all the mining was being done that looked eerily like Omega) it gives me hope for a Mass Effect Movie.

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Enjoyed it enough, I watched it twice. :)  Mass Effecty feel in some parts. :)



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Knowhere right? Mining colony, check. Hub for ruthless underground activity, check. Infrastructure built upon the husk of a large extraterrestrial object, check. And that head of a Celestial, very much resembles that creepy human Reaper head, indeed. 

GotG was soooooooo much fun, I agree with OP, the glitzy, colorful, fantastical sci-fi world they portrayed in the movie made me crave ME4 even more.

When I saw the movie, from the sets and locations I definitely got a sense of Illium, Citadel, and, of course, Omega, but with bigger budget movie quality. I really hope Bioware is able to create settings as visually striking and immersive as those in GOTG.
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don't hold your breath pal. Marvel movies have those HUGE budgets cause at this stage they've become cash cows.

I haven't read much into the ME movie possibility, they doing the trilogy or what? dunno how they'd squeeze it into a few movies tbh :s



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old finangles law, or reasonable facsimile.  My avatar isn't a ship really, it's a pizza slicer. Sci fi used to have a message based logistic. In that one the messages are lost on many or, so vague that makes them invisible to the naked eye. I've not seen the movie, but did you check out some extensive previews. The association with Mass Effect is understandable, but then  star wars had its share of open scenery with strange  but not erotic versions of "alien" life forms. That ****** guy was fnangle, or his mad prophet Murphy? (Old Niven and the objective known space ideal. :)

 

 

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after seeing a simple word turned into ********* ? Is this site mechanically censored?  I didn't post ( I never do) any thing that required ******** to replace it? )



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Oh I got it.. Note to computer brain on bioware forum: Procyon (genus).

 

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But I was thoroughly entertained for 'most' of the 2 hours.

Don't you think that was the point. This is a movie based on a comic book. Not some literary masterpiece. I don't know about others, but sometimes I watch movies to have a good time. Not to necessarily cry tears of drama or gasp at plot twists or wrap my mind around plot complexities and explore philosophical conundrums.

 

I haven't read much into the ME movie possibility, they doing the trilogy or what? dunno how they'd squeeze it into a few movies tbh :s

The ME movie in works is supposed to be based on ME1. I'm guessing they're betting on that movie being successful enough to earn two more sequels to cover the other two games.

If Peter Jackson managed to trim the massively detailed LOTR books into a beautifully compelling trilogy, I don't believe squeezing the content into a film format is ever the main issue in question about these movie adaptions. It's about what talent they manage to get and their vision for it that will make or break it. 
 

In seeing the movie and how make up, special effects and world creation was used ( i.e. the place in the movie where all the mining was being done that looked eerily like Omega) it gives me hope for a Mass Effect Movie.

The resounding (and deserving) success of GotG makes me hopeful for a ME movie, too, because it shows that people still enjoy the space opera genre. That is hoping the upcoming Star Wars don't end up disastrous lol. ME is extremely different from GotG/Star Wars, but hopefully the popularity of the other two movies makes whatever studio get the biggest budget they can get and work super hard on ME. 


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what makes these quickie movies stand out is the money they put into them in special effects. I suppose that games are the same way, when intending to impress with that and interaction. I'm afraid that money making is having a direct effect upon the "value" of anything garnered from the story involved. Mass Effect DID have a story to follow, and everyone knows the message there in..



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Don't you think that was the point. This is a movie based on a comic book. Not some literary masterpiece. I don't know about others, but sometimes I watch movies to have a good time. Not to necessarily cry tears of drama or gasp at plot twists or wrap my mind around plot complexities and explore philosophical conundrums.

 

 A movie consists of certain things. I said the main plot in this film is weak. Very weak. It was a decent film. It was very funny. 

 

To answer your question, no, I do not think that's the point. Atleast not entirely. Do you honestly think the people who created this film thought to themselves "the plot isn't important, lets just distract them with entertainment!" ? Probably not. If I wanted nothing but a few hours of laughs, I could watch a couple stand-up specials. But GotG is a movie and will be judged as such. There's a good amount of comic book movies that actually have damn fine plots and pacing. GotG absolutely does not.

 

 

Unfortunately I wasn't trying to wrap my head around plot complexities. I was trying to wrap it around it's dumbfounding simplicity and it's bang up job of making it convoluted at the same time.

 

Yup, I went to the movies for a good time. And I had one. As I said, the plot was trash, the main villain was laughable, and I obviously didn't have much of a good time in between the funny bits. In fact, the film was a drag at those times. Fortunately, I didn't have to wait long before the funny was injected back into the film. The comedy and dialogue are GotG's saving grace. 


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It was a decent film. It was very funny.  


But you said it sucked balls. I guess not then. 



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Just saw it. 

 

 

 

It was a lot of fun. The comedy was well written. All the main characters had their moments. But it was very formulaic. The plot/narrative was definitely weak. So much so, that I found myself just waiting for the next funny line so that I could get back to laughing (and it was genuine laughter). Still, it's a good sci fi romp and sure to be a cult classic. It had sort of a Fifth Element goofiness to it that I definitely approve of. 

 

There wasn't much character progression for anybody except for the "Guardians" themselves. I'm only reminded that it's a Marvel Comic movie when the main villain is on screen. Unfortunately, he is relatively prominent in the film. And while he looks totally bad ass, character wise he just blows. I'm talking Bane levels of suck ass (yeah, I went there).

 

I will say that contrary to popular opinion, I thought Groot had the standout performance (not Rocket). However, I don't think any single character steals the show, but all of them together certainly shine. Despite their weak origins compacted into a few lines of dialogue (besides Starlord), they all have quality moments of self discovery and new found strength to push through that shallowly explored past.

 

 

The special effects are top notch and downright beautiful. But none of the action really blew me away. The classic multi-genre soundtrack was a good choice and well implemented. 

 

 

 

All that being said, I really didn't get any Mass Effect vibes from this film whatsoever. And that's fine. I enjoyed it's own unique style. But I definitely don't want the next Mass Effect to be anything like this film. While Mass Effect has it's lighthearted and comedic moments, it truly is a much grittier and serious fictional universe than that of GoG.

  

@zestalyn

 

Please point out where I said that the movie "sucked balls"....



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But you said it sucked balls. I guess not then. 

 Learn to read. And don't put words in others mouths. This is why we can't have nice things.



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Any hope I have for a ME movie based on ME1 would be to focus on the main worlds/storyline. Not deal with any of the side stuff really. I suppose they could try to work in the N7 missions which deal somewhat with Cerberus. If only to introduce their shady ops as something ominous. Still would take a 3 hour movie to barely tell ME1.



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 Learn to read. And don't put words in others mouths. This is why we can't have nice things.

 

@zestalyn

 

Please point out where I said that the movie "sucked balls"....

 

Sorry, that was my mistake, I said that based on memory.

 Just because I accidentally put words in your mouth, I would've appreciated you not trying to insult me for that. And you wonder why we cant have nice things...

 

Any hope I have for a ME movie based on ME1 would be to focus on the main worlds/storyline. Not deal with any of the side stuff really. I suppose they could try to work in the N7 missions which deal somewhat with Cerberus. If only to introduce their shady ops as something ominous. Still would take a 3 hour movie to barely tell ME1.

 

 I feel like they would probably have to take out one of the colony plots, like either Feros or Noveria., and rework the plot regarding how Shep obtains the cipher or encounters Benezia. To get the same feeling of Shep's ME1 journey, there are certain things we don't necessarily have to deal with, like possibly the Thorian/the rachni stuff. 



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I thought the plot was pretty strong. You could describe it in oversimplified terms if you're trying to make a point, but the story makes sense, moves along at a pretty stable pace, and aside from the predictable generic 3 acts, I really couldn't tell what was going to happen next. I was genuinely surprised and entertained with several of the plot twists - especially in the 2nd act.

In fact, I'm kind of astonished that this movie pulled off the melding of science fiction with mysticism as well as it did.

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Hehehe.


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I watched it in 2D so as not to deal with all the 3D nonsense. And I really liked it. I knew about Guardians of the galaxy before, having read the latest of their incarnations(the one with tony stark) and while some would probably have liked a more serious movie I thought that it fitted perfectly. Yeah it has its share of over the top absurd moments(just about any time any of them speak) but that added to their charm. 

 

The reason some people might think that there is just too much stuff thrown at them is because the movie introduces the whole other side of marvel universe, the one that deals with stuff outside Earth, and there is a whole galaxy out there(or several more precisely)



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Fun pic

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