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1. Canonise indoctrination theory. Starkid, Green Beam, TIM suddenly being God? Didn't happen.
2. Canonise a Destroy in which EDI and the Geth don't die. Which is... what the Crucible was meant to do.
3. Shepard's death is irrelevant since the game isn't about him.
4. ???
5. Profit.
What?
What?
I thought it's pretty clear.
They intend to stay in the same time period, have an N7 hero and completely ignore the ending of ME3.
Basically a copout.
Or they could set the game in alternative universe and the problem would be solved.
They intend to stay in the same time period
Or they could set the game in alternative universe and the problem would be solved.
That's still a copout.
It shows Bioware is unwilling or AFRAID to deal with the consequences of ME3's ending.
Instead of putting on their big boy pants and saying '' THIS IS THE ENDING '' ( at which IT is simply the best and is on a masterpiece level of writing ) they run away from ME3 and start over somewhere else, creating a Mass Effect game that isn't really Mass Effect.
Canonize Indoctrination Theory?
Works for me, seeing as how that sign means nothing and that was -NOT- the way gladiators were sentenced to death.
So you keep going on about this nonsense even though everybody keeps telling you that most of your assumptions about ME4 are nothing concrete and are pure speculations and assumptions?
Damn.
It's the only thing you have. They're called speculations for a reason.
But Bioware already showed human heroes, N7 and the Mako.
Works for me, seeing as how that sign means nothing and that was -NOT- the way gladiators were sentenced to death.
Nope. The exact gesture used is unknown but its thought that the Romans might have jabbed their thumbs towards their throat or chest as the 'kill him' signal.
And that's what I'd like to see happen to the Indoctrination Theory....A sword plunged through its throat or heart, to the sound of hands clapping.
Honestly I think the worst thing bioware could do at this point is say that the IT is true. They've said a million times that is isn't and even made a DLC going against it. If they just suddenly said "yup, it's real" it would feel like a complete sell-out.
Please just let this dead horse die in peace.
Honestly I think the worst thing bioware could do at this point is say that the IT is true. They've said a million times that is isn't and even made a DLC going against it. If they just suddenly said "yup, it's real" it would feel like a complete sell-out.
Please just let this dead horse die in peace.
Source, please.
And the DLC was to please the masses. The thing with the IT is that you can't say it's real without putting on your big boy pants, since you will have fans that will rage.
That's why I am asking them to take a risk.
I am fine with it. I would have a sense of player agency in the story again and it would unruin the first two games for me. It would feel less fantasy and more scifi in execution. It also undorks the Reapers. The Leviathans could easily be lying about everything.Maybe they were rejected for whatever unknowable thing is the Reapers goals. I also don't want the Reapers to be involved with the new game at all. They did not need to be in any of the sequels.
I personally love The Indoctrination Theory, and I already believe it as lore and canon, regardless of what anyone else says. There is literally just too much undebunkable evidence. There is a documentary on Youtube that has 3 episodes, each 2 hours long of content.
The only way I'll not believe it anymore is if the new game takes place after Shepard, and one of the Red/ Green/ Blue choices is canon. Which would destroy my hopes and dreams of this game, and the future of Mass Effect. It may even influence me to not play it anymore, which would depress me as I love Mass Effect.
They are better off just doing something before the Reaper war. I honestly can't see what else they can do,
Indoctrination Theory IS a cop-out. In fact it's pretty much the biggest cop-out you could possibly have in Mass Effect. Didn't like something? Let's just pretend it was all a dream.
This.
*insert picture of cookie*
Indoctrination Theory IS a cop-out. In fact it's pretty much the biggest cop-out you could possibly have in Mass Effect. Didn't like something? Let's just pretend it was all a dream.
What are you talking about? It only targets the ridiculous Citadel scenes, because there are some things that make no sense:
1. How did Anderson -AND- Shepard get through when the guy says no one did?
2. Why does Shepard bleed from the same spot Anderson was shot by TIM in?
3. Why does TIM have the ability to control Shepard when Saren, Sovereign and Harbinger did not?
4. Why is Destroy Red ( Renegade ) and Control Blue? ( Paragon )
and so on.
It's a brilliant ending and way better than space magic.
What are you talking about? It only targets the ridiculous Citadel scenes, because there are some things that make no sense:
1. How did Anderson -AND- Shepard get through when the guy says no one did?
2. Why does Shepard bleed from the same spot Anderson was shot by TIM in?
3. Why does TIM have the ability to control Shepard when Saren, Sovereign and Harbinger did not?
4. Why is Destroy Red ( Renegade ) and Control Blue? ( Paragon )
and so on.
It's a brilliant ending and way better than space magic.
Why does the Catalyst only offer you destroy in low EMS when you destroyed the Collector base?
Why does the Catalyst only offer you control in low EMS when you decided to keep the Collector base?
Why does it wake you up at all? Leaving you to die seems like a much easier way to victory.
1. Irellevant
2. Coincidence
3. As a result of the procedure he put himself through.
4. Coincidence
and so on.
You sound like the government when it comes to UFO sightings.
"Coincidence.
Coincidence.
Coincidence."
Something that repetitive is no longer a coincidence.
Why does the Catalyst only offer you destroy in low EMS when you destroyed the Collector base?
Why does the Catalyst only offer you control in low EMS when you decided to keep the Collector base?
Why does it wake you up at all? Leaving you to die seems like a much easier way to victory.
Because the Reapers speak to your desires.
Both Low EMS Destroy and Control result in Shepard's death ( Indoctrination ) so the Catalyst is using your own motivations to defeat you ( since you destroyed the Collectors it is clear you want to destroy the Reapers, too ).
EVERYTHING after the Beam run is the Reaper attempt at mentally crushing Shepard and making him a drooling husk. ( which happens in Control and Synthesis ).
TIM represents the indoctrinated side of Shepard's mind while Anderson represents what's left of Shep's sanity. It's why if TIM shoots Anderson the EMS cost of getting the Shepard Lives ending go higher, because it is harder for Shepard to defeat the illusion if his sanity takes a hit.
Because the Reapers speak to your desires.
Both Low EMS Destroy and Control result in Shepard's death ( Indoctrination ) so the Catalyst is using your own motivations to defeat you ( since you destroyed the Collectors it is clear you want to destroy the Reapers, too ).
EVERYTHING after the Beam run is the Reaper attempt at mentally crushing Shepard and making him a drooling husk. ( which happens in Control and Synthesis ).
TIM represents the indoctrinated side of Shepard's mind while Anderson represents what's left of Shep's sanity. It's why if TIM shoots Anderson the EMS cost of getting the Shepard Lives ending go higher, because it is harder for Shepard to defeat the illusion if his sanity takes a hit.
And you sound like a religous nut. "How does the sunset and tides work? God is the only possibly explanation and I'll just ignore everything that doesn't fit with my theory."
That's all you're doing. You really think you can prove something by asking yourself a bunch of random questions, filling in the answers you want and then ignoring anything that doesn't fit with your explanation?
Well done, that's pretty much a guaranteed way of coming up with an incorrect assumption.
Well at least the Catalyst is nice, filling your head with happy pictures of victory after you pick control or synthesis.
All this might've worked pre-EC, but it doesn't anymore.
Post-EC is irrelevant.
EC is not the ending the Bioware devs planned.
EC is just fanservice, an attempt to salvage the relationship with their fans.
They will never admit IT was the original ending, because to do so would mean to not only make EC void, but to once again harm the relationship with the fans that weren't open minded enough to realise that the IT is correct.
There's just TOO MUCH PROOF for it to be false whereas the only think that ''debunks'' it is the EC, which, again, is not the planned ending but rather fanservice at the fan pressure. EC wouldn't have existed without the fans whining and as such cannot be realistically used in an argument against IT, which is an ORIGINAL ending and is independent of EC.
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