This being science fiction and all they could come up with any of about 10 different ways to pull off a new game scenario. 6 or 7 of which none of us have thought of yet.
There is a big difference between liking a scenario and feeling it is not doable or a cop out. People get the like and not doable concepts mixed up all the time.
Post-EC is irrelevant.
EC is not the ending the Bioware devs planned.
EC is just fanservice, an attempt to salvage the relationship with their fans.
They will never admit IT was the original ending, because to do so would mean to not only make EC void, but to once again harm the relationship with the fans that weren't open minded enough to realise that the IT is correct.
There's lots of other things wrong with IT.
Btw, even pre-EC, Hacket tells you you've won. But I suppose that's another really kind thing the Reapers do.
And then there's the dev notes about trying to incorporate indoctrination, but not knowing how so they dropped the idea altogether.
IT is just a coping mechanism to deal with something you don't like.
Do share.
Do share.
Use the search function top right. Read some threads. It has been discussed countless times.
I'm not going to dig through 100 threads. If you have anything worthwhile to add, do it here. I took the courtesy of giving you examples that support IT and I expect you to do the same.
OP says the EC isn't the ending they planned....then advocates for IT (also isn't the ending they planned).
Nice.
OP says the EC isn't the ending they planned....then advocates for IT (also isn't the ending they planned).
Nice.
The difference between your statement and mine is that EC has been proven to be something they didn't plan- since they had to do it at the behest of fans.
But do give proof that they didn't think of IT as an ending.
The difference between your statement and mine is that EC has been proven to be something they didn't plan- since they had to do it at the behest of fans.
But do give proof that they didn't think of IT as an ending.
actually the EC is just a more detailed version of the original endings. I.e. a cutscene during the beam run, the Catalysts explaination of it's purpose and motives, the epilogue showing the aftermath of our choice, the memorial wall scene.
Oh and the fact that Bioware created it.
I don't need to prove anything to you. Anybody that knows what the Indoctrination Theory is, knows it's pure fan fiction. Nothing more. But if you really need, just look up the interview with Casey and Mac (right before EC released) literally stating that they could only do the ending they knew. That they wouldn't even know how to make somebody else's ending (aka IT)
Indoctrination theory. Still a better ending.
Indoctrination theory. Still a better ending.
It's not like the bar was all that high 
Except that whole part where it's not even an ending....
just look up the interview with Casey and Mac (right before EC released) literally stating that they could only do the ending they knew.
I searched for proof that they admitted it was not what they thought of.
I could find none.
Which is why I ask for proof.
Sucks.....it's not my job to disprove your delusions.
Except that whole part where it's not even an ending....
Still better....
Probably better than mehem, that's about it.
Sucks.....it's not my job to disprove your delusions.
'' God is real. I have proof. I just won't show it to you. Look for it yourself! ''
That's you right now. Now either bring proof or stop trolling. Thanks.
'' God is real. I have proof. I just won't show it to you. Look for it yourself! ''
That's you right now. Now either bring proof or stop trolling. Thanks.
God isn't real. The interview is. You ask me to go fetch your proof.....but you have none to back up your claims about IT (because there is none. Because it's made up by a fan.) You're the troll, clearly.
Either you don't know how to use a search engine or you're just lazy
First thing that pops up "Mass Effect 3 extended cut interview"
Then there is the quote by Merizan saying: "If your version of IT requires more content (eg post breath scene) that is not the interpretation of Bioware" *
Also there is Priestly: "We aren't changing the endings anymore"**
And finally Gambol: "Shepard took the breath on the citadel" (when asked where shep took the breath in the ending content)*
All of this information is available via twitter and BSN 
Or there is always the popular opinion that bioware lies yo and everything they say is a lie to make way for the reveal DLC or ME4 (which will be the reveal)
**=BSN
What are you talking about? It only targets the ridiculous Citadel scenes, because there are some things that make no sense:
1. How did Anderson -AND- Shepard get through when the guy says no one did?
2. Why does Shepard bleed from the same spot Anderson was shot by TIM in?
3. Why does TIM have the ability to control Shepard when Saren, Sovereign and Harbinger did not?
4. Why is Destroy Red ( Renegade ) and Control Blue? ( Paragon )
and so on.
It's a brilliant ending and way better than space magic.
1. You mean get to the room where Anderson, Shepard, and TIM have that conversation before Shepard goes to the Catalyst? Did you forget what Anderson said before getting to the room? He specifically said the room is shifting/changing. We don't get to see the room we walk to until we get close enough to the end of the hallway where the 'door' opens. That and the hexagons in the chasm tell me that the room where we have that conversation rotates, with the hexagons being the cogs that make it move. And when the room rotates to a certain hallway [whether it is the hallway Anderson got sent to or the one that Shepard got sent to, or the one TIM was waiting in], it opens that door that allows entry. As for how it knows where to turn, this is the future, the door is probably designed to automatically move to where someone is at the door, maybe as to help the keepers go from the hallways to the room [and I guarantee you that's the room the keepers activate the Citadel relay at in past cycles] and to the other hallways.
2. coincidence, and hardly an issue. People get injured all the time in war, and Shepard was already injured well before shooting Anderson [remember that run to the beam? He got banged up pretty bad when Harbinger knocked him out, along with injuries received by Marauder Shields and the husks].
3. Did you not play the Chronos Station and Sanctuary missions? The terminals in the Chronos Station in the room before the final fight with Kai Leng specifically mention The Illusive Man getting reaper implants implanted into his body. That along with the indoctrination research he and Mr. Lawson were doing [AND figured out how to control smaller beings before the reapers discovered what was going on at Sanctuary] means that TIM could control people. And that explains the tunnel vision we got during the conversation when TIM was speaking as well as how he gets us to shoot Anderson.
4. Destroy ending has you sacrificing one race [the Geth] and one squadmate [EDI] so that the other races and your other friends could live. That fits what Renegades are= people who are willing to do things like sacrifice 10 million so that 20 million may live. Control, on the other hand, has no race sacrificing, and allows the galaxy to live without forced change [like Synthesis would]. Shepard sacrifices himself so that no one else has to die today, which fits the paragon ideal. the fact that they are colored is nothing more than symbolic [is it good symbolism? you be the judge].
It was god damn swamp gas! Seriously, Bioware isn't going to change their ending to a fan made up one even after all that pressure to do something when the game first came out failed to sway them. I understand everyone just about wants a different ending, I can't think of one person who beat the game that I know that likes it but well we didn't make the game so we really have no say on the subject other then don't buy their games anymore. To me, to make the game in anything but the Shepard universe would be silly for a sequel because it basically ignores everything they put a lot of effort into. So I said this elsewhere but Bioware is either going to have to just canonize an ending and deal with the up roar of the masses buying the game or make it so far into the future or make the ending as legend so no one really knows exactly how it ends just that something happened and it involved the reapers given the state of the universe at the end can you blame everyone for not knowing what exactly happened?
1. You mean get to the room where Anderson, Shepard, and TIM have that conversation before Shepard goes to the Catalyst? Did you forget what Anderson said before getting to the room? He specifically said the room is shifting/changing.
That has nothing to do with what I asked.
The guy that was monitoring the beam said no one got through. Shepard runs to the beam yet doesn't see Anderson go in and Archer doesn't, either.
2. coincidence
lol.
The terminals in the Chronos Station in the room before the final fight with Kai Leng specifically mention The Illusive Man getting reaper implants implanted into his body. That along with the indoctrination research he and Mr. Lawson were doing [AND figured out how to control smaller beings before the reapers discovered what was going on at Sanctuary] means that TIM could control people.
No, it means TIM could control Husks.
Shepard faced Saren, Sovereign, Harbinger, Collectors, Rannoch Reaper, Tuchanka Reaper and none of them managed to control him, yet TIM does?
That fits what Renegades are= people who are willing to do things like sacrifice 10 million so that 20 million may live.
Nah, Renegade would have chosen Control. You become immortal and control every reaper. You become the strongest force in the galaxy with the ability to do whatever you want, whenever you want.
Destroy is clearly Paragon, even shown by the fact that Anderson would choose it.
Canonizing the Indoctrination Theory is also a cop-out. It invalidates the ending of Mass Effect 3 by just saying, "It was all a hallucination." Just because you agree with the Indoctrination Theory, it doesn't suddenly mean that it is a flawless solution.
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