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[x Raizer x]

Lyrium is something we Dragon Age fans should all know too well.  Said to be what the Maker himself used in creation, it definitely is a unique element.

But is it an element?  What is Lyrium?  Where did it come from?  What makes it work?  And why is it so magical, and powerful?

So far, nobody in Thedas knows.  Or if anyone does, they haven't been around to tell it to any of our protagonists, and it must be a pretty well kept secret because it never pops up in Codex entries either.  But chances are nobody at this time knows.  But we can theorize, and metagame.

We should all know by now that Red Lyrium plays a huge role in DA: Inquisition.  It plagues several of the screenshots, making many landscapes look infected and corrupted.  It even "mutates" living things, turning them into abominations, not possessed but corrupted.

 

But how do we know not possessed?  Look at those screenshots again.  Those Red-Lyrium mutants look all similar to abominations; corrupted people twisted and warped by demons.  After all, its been mentioned in game that some scholars believe Lyrium to be alive.  It sings, after all.  As if wanting to be found.

But the dwarves consider it a metal, in liquid form.  But even that doesn't make sense physically.  Heat is what keeps metal in liquid form, and the Lyrium the players come across is not always close to lava, and even when it is, it isn't close enough to melt.

And beyond that, Lyrium is also the only known element to be both in the Fade and the real world.  The developers mentioned that we would be gathering ingredients, even in the Fade.  

Is it truly an element related directly to the Maker?  Is that why its present in both worlds?

Or is it perhaps a magical crystal, possessed by a spirit?  "Blue" Lyrium being a good spirit, and Red Lyrium being a corrupt, evil one?  These crystals could be impossible to find in their "unpossessed" pure form, because as a crystal it would provide no willpower to defend against a possession attempt.  Its well known that demons attempt to possess anything that assume is living, even sometimes corpses, pets, and for the less-than-cunning demons, end tables.
 

If these crystals are magical, whois to say the demon won't detect the magic and assume its a mage?  Then again, Lyrium persists in the Fade too, which goes against the possession theory, so who knows.  If its not possessed, or alive, why is it so special?  Special enough to have as a main focal point in a new entry into the Dragon Age series?

Any thoughts or theories?  I am interested in hearing them!

[Gannayev of Dreams]

I like to think of it as an element that acts as a thinning agent for the fade, localized around the user.  This is why magic abilities become augmented, so much so that even general non-magic users like Templars are able to access magical power.  Red Lyrium is like an isotope of that element, which is why it has similar properties (in that it augments magical power), but is much more unstable and therefore also causes deleterious effects even after relatively minor exposure.

[x Raizer x]

I like to think of it as an element that acts as a thinning agent for the fade, localized around the user.  This is why magic abilities become augmented, so much so that even general non-magic users like Templars are able to access magical power.  Red Lyrium is like an isotope of that element, which is why it has similar properties (in that it augments magical power), but is much more unstable and therefore also causes deleterious effects even after relatively minor exposure.

 

That is interesting.  If that is true, I would wonder if it would work introvertly in the Fade?  And act in some way be used to access the "real world?"

[Gannayev of Dreams]

That is interesting.  If that is true, I would wonder if it would work introvertly in the Fade?  And act in some way be used to access the "real world?"

 

I'm not sure.  Everything I've read involving the fade paints it as a dimension based around the immaterial.  Physical objects don't seem to exist.  Everything you see, hear, touch, smell, indeed anything that informs your senses at all, is just that dimension reacting to your imagination.  Thought and reality are inseparable there.  As such lyrium would only exist as you imagine it to exist.  I don't think you could use it to breach the veil from that side, otherwise demons would be doing it all the time.

 

You could certainly use lyrium on our side to open a door that could let something out as much as in.  We've already done it in DA games so far.

[myahele]

I guess you can almost say its an advanced form of Mass Effects element zero. The veil is a type of biotic berrier naturally produced by the lyrium in the earth.

[x Raizer x]

I'm not sure.  Everything I've read involving the fade paints it as a dimension based around the immaterial.  Physical objects don't seem to exist.  Everything you see, hear, touch, smell, indeed anything that informs your senses at all, is just that dimension reacting to your imagination.  Thought and reality are inseparable there.  As such lyrium would only exist as you imagine it to exist.  I don't think you could use it to breach the veil from that side, otherwise demons would be doing it all the time.

 

You could certainly use lyrium on our side to open a door that could let something out as much as in.  We've already done it in DA games so far.

 

Makes sense.  Except Lyrium just being a figment of our imagination in the Fade.  Only reason I say this is because during Dragon Age: Origins, you can use Lyrium nodes during combat to regen your characters, physically affecting them in a way.  So it has to exist in the Fade, at least to a degree.  I am also fairly certain Justice mentioned that even pure Lyrium is rare in the Fade.  That is why he really wanted you to find some for him.  I think he also said it reminded him of home, which is odd, in retrospect, for Lyrium to somehow remind a spirit of the Fade.  Hm.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

Makes sense.  Except Lyrium just being a figment of our imagination in the Fade.  Only reason I say this is because during Dragon Age: Origins, you can use Lyrium nodes during combat to regen your characters, physically affecting them in a way.  So it has to exist in the Fade, at least to a degree.  I am also fairly certain Justice mentioned that even pure Lyrium is rare in the Fade.  That is why he really wanted you to find some for him.  I think he also said it reminded him of home, which is odd, in retrospect, for Lyrium to somehow remind a spirit of the Fade.  Hm.

 

You may be right.  Lyrium probably exists in some form in the Fade, I just don't think it does physically.  It manifested physically for us because that is the only way we can conceive of it.  We've been told that everything about our dimension is alien to spirits/demons.  If lyrium, as an element, is the one constant between our two dimensions, then it sort of makes sense that it reminds him of home.  The only thing he can relate to.

[x Raizer x]

You may be right.  Lyrium probably exists in some form in the Fade, I just don't think it does physically.  It manifested physically for us because that is the only way we can conceive of it.  We've been told that everything about our dimension is alien to spirits/demons.  If lyrium, as an element, is the one constant between our two dimensions, then it sort of makes sense that it reminds him of home.  The only thing he can relate to.

 

Totally can get the idea of Lyrium being nostalgic to Justice now.

Lyrium is just so, strange.  I remember playing Dragon Age 2, and seeing the Red Lyrium in the ancient thaig, and just looking at it for awhile.  If you closed closely enough, it moved.  Not to mention the bubbles floating around on the inside.

[MissDragon]

Totally can get the idea of Lyrium being nostalgic to Justice now.

Lyrium is just so, strange.  I remember playing Dragon Age 2, and seeing the Red Lyrium in the ancient thaig, and just looking at it for awhile.  If you closed closely enough, it moved.  Not to mention the bubbles floating around on the inside.

 

So would using Red Lyrium  mean you will be singing...'I'm forever blowing bubbles'?  

[Vumba the Wild Elf]

Numinit

[x Raizer x]

Do you think we'll come across other forms of Lyrium in Inquisition besides Red and "Blue"?
3 would seem perfect.  Red and Blue being good polar "opposites", and they could add a super rare one, maybe Purple or Black?
Which has a combination of all the positives from Blue and Red with almost none of the negatives.

[OctagonalSquare]

But the dwarves consider it a metal, in liquid form.  But even that doesn't make sense physically.  Heat is what keeps metal in liquid form, and the Lyrium the players come across is not always close to lava, and even when it is, it isn't close enough to melt.

Mercury is liquid at room temperature.

[Vumba the Wild Elf]

crystals we call "Lyrium" are magic in the physical form. Green, Blue, Red, it doesn't matter, they are magic in it's physical form.

[Melbella]

The thing that fascinates me most about lyrium is how the symptoms of lyrium poisoning are almost identical to darkspawn taint poisoning. This, plus the fact they both "sing" to those infected/attuned makes me wonder if they are perhaps two sides of the same coin. I think it is at least more than coincidence.

[TEWR]

Lyrium for LI!

[Icy Magebane]

Do you think we'll come across other forms of Lyrium in Inquisition besides Red and "Blue"?
3 would seem perfect.  Red and Blue being good polar "opposites", and they could add a super rare one, maybe Purple or Black?
Which has a combination of all the positives from Blue and Red with almost none of the negatives.

I'd rather they didn't do it that way, or it will seem too much like Kryptonite or the new Green Lantern power rings (basically they have rings in every color now...).  I'd rather they just stopped at red.  Hopefully it's just an unnatural form of normal lyrium, either corrupted by the Taint or blood magic... maybe it's synthetic lyrium.  Whatever the case, I hope that there aren't 4-5 different colors of lyrium out there that people never previously discovered for some reason.

[x Raizer x]

I'd rather they didn't do it that way, or it will seem too much like Kryptonite or the new Green Lantern power rings (basically they have rings in every color now...).  I'd rather they just stopped at red.  Hopefully it's just an unnatural form of normal lyrium, either corrupted by the Taint or blood magic... maybe it's synthetic lyrium.  Whatever the case, I hope that there aren't 4-5 different colors of lyrium out there that people never previously discovered for some reason.

 

There are likely many things left undiscovered in the Deep Roads alone.  Let alone the uncharted frozen wastes below the Kocari, and the Donark Forrest.  Also it is said that the Anderfels have areas of desert left unexplored.  I don't want there to be a whole bunch of Lyrium types either, but one or two ultra rare sub-types would be pretty neat in my opinion.

Lyrium does seem to have some things in common with the Darkspawn taint.  Both eventually corrupt their victims, even warping and mutating them, and Lyrium sings as well as the Darkspawn taint itself.