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[Pyro411]

I just saw the note in the nice thread started by CroGamer002 which sparked a question in my mind hoping there's answers.

 

For the "New region of space"

 

A)  Are we looking at just mapping new mass effect relays within our Galaxy & all the repercussions of that?

 

Or

 

 Are we looking at being flung into a different galaxy & fighting to survive Ala Lost in Space or Out There style all the while attempting to get home?

 

If it's A we could be looking at something like another Krogan Uprising or a previously undiscovered AI Race that had wiped out their creators along with any other number of perils / perks that could go with it.

 

If it's B we could be looking at the end of a cycle with a reaperesk type enemy dogging you trying to purge the corruption to their plan from that Galaxy while you do all you can to warn & prevent the extinction cycle from happening in that galaxy.

 

Just some random thoughts.

-- No I don't work for Bioware/EA so this thread can't be a confirmation of anything

-- Yes EA/Bioware can contact me if they want me to expand upon my theories

-- Yes I'm willing to change my viewpoint on things & field an open discussion.

[x Raizer x]

It will still be in our galaxy, we will just be doing the majority of our quests in places we haven't before.  No more Terminus, Horsehead, Hades Gamma, and so on.  That is just the thing with that statement:  The galaxy is so huge, there are millions of star clusters we haven't been to.  Some that could be just around the corner from even Earth and the Citadel.

Its a really broad statement, saying we will be going to new areas of space.

My guess is they mean we will be explorers, exploring uncharted star systems and planets.  Likely stumbling across something that starts the main quest line.

[Pyro411]

I agree the statement is FAR to open ended.

 

Just sitting at your desk during the work day you've traveled many many miles and are never truly in the exact same place twice if you take the most literal meaning of it.

 

It could also mean...

Different Dimensions

Time Travel

Different Solar systems "most likely"

Different Galax(y/ies)

 

I wonder if we'll be seeing more of the Galactic Core at all -- there are FAR to many things we could do there.

[x Raizer x]

Some galactic core and black hole stuff would be cool.  But that could mostly be because I am just an astronomy nerd, lol.

[Pyro411]

Ooh correct me if I'm wrong "Very rusty on Astronomy" but isn't there a Theory that some blackholes could be connected to different parts of the universe and possibly be utilized as Wormholes if you were able to survive the gravitational stresses of the blackhole?

 

If that's the case, that could be the starting point of the main story line.  Either Aliens from a different Galaxy invade, or species native to our galaxy return through those black holes after some how escaping through one during their cycle.

[JonathonPR]

I have no interest in any story that takes place in the Milky Way galaxy anymore. The ending of ME3 soured me on the series as a whole along with making the Reapers underwhelming.

 

I would much rather the story be about an expedition to a new galaxy or some alternate universe(a mirrored galaxy. Dark Matter, the missing mass required to hold our galaxy together st the speed it is spinning, is the overlap of multiple parallel galaxies' gravity of their own matter.) to explore the origins and effects of dark matter, dark energy, and other forms of strange matter. Ezo and other forms of strange matter could be created by temporary overlap on the quantum level of sub atomic particles. If they want to repair the image of the Reapers they could find that the AI started to explore the parallel galaxies and came across an entity that rewrote its perception of reality. The interaction between entities who are extremely alien to each other could have repercussions neither are aware of. I would make it a foot note if any evidence of such an event was discovered.

[Sion1138]

We've been there. (Regarding black holes.)

 

(Suddenly quoting doesn't work.)

[Pyro411]

Sion, we've been to the Galactic core, but what if the Galactic core could be used as a gateway to somewhere else either via the blackholes themselves or by harnessing the energy of the blackholes and building a space bridge of sorts to any number of different locations.

[Heimdall]

It could be in a new galaxy.

 

Maybe we go to another galaxy, only to find that the remnants of the Prothean Empire reestablished themselves there 50,00 ago and have worked out how to build their own mass relays.

[Drone223]

The whole traveling to another galaxy will be a huge ass pull (which the series has already had enough of) in terms of plot and logistics's, it will also be a huge-cop out since Bioware won't be willing to deal with the endings.

[Pyro411]

Hmm that actually could be a pretty twisted plot twist, the Protheans had a colony that survived either in the space between Galaxies or 1 galaxy over and came back after this extinction cycle to conquer the primitive races of this cycle to take on the Reapers under their own terms.

 

Only to find out the Reapers had been "Insert your choice or cannon choice here" at which point attempt to reclaim the Citadel & their throne as the dominant power in the Galaxy.

[Drone223]

Hmm that actually could be a pretty twisted plot twist, the Protheans had a colony that survived either in the space between Galaxies or 1 galaxy over and came back after this extinction cycle to conquer the primitive races of this cycle to take on the Reapers under their own terms.

 

Only to find out the Reapers had been "Insert your choice or cannon choice here" at which point attempt to reclaim the Citadel & their throne as the dominant power in the Galaxy.

That just has bad writing written all over it (no pun intended) just like LP.

[Pyro411]

That just has bad writing written all over it (no pun intended) just like LP.

LoL True but I wouldn't put it past some game companies these days.

 

Honestly it's within the realm of possibilities.  From what we know the Protheans were very advanced technology wise, so in theory they could have sent several colony ships out in all directions with the whole crew in stasis programmed to land and awaken the crew at the first Habitable planet after crossing the galactic void.

You have to remember though we were given Red/Blue/Green choices at the end of 3 by the same company that's making this one.

I'm holding out hope for a new epic story that could make me jump out of my skin in excitement.

[Mcfly616]

If it truly is uncharted space....I'm guessing it'll be about some unmapped relay(s).

[Drone223]

@Pyro411: It was never established or mentioned that the prothean's had the technological ability to travel between different galaxy's (otherwise Javik would have mentioned it), I doubt the current species will be to do so either.

[Pyro411]

@Drone223 they actually established they had Everything needed to do it, maybe not within a reasonable amount of time maybe a hundred years in cryo sleep.

 

All you need is the ability to do interstellar travel which even the Humans had to be able to travel between solar systems after the Mass Relay jumps, and Cryogenic pods capable of keeping the crew in suspended animation.

 

Also Javik not mentioning it would make sense as he didn't know of Ilo and communication among his species had been shattered by the Reapers so there's a possibility there's story lines with the Protheans we haven't been shown and Javik didn't know of.

 

However yes I do agree that a hostile invasion of Protheans would be a major cop-out in story telling.

[Drone223]

^Problem is that all the prothean's plans were ruined by indoctrinated agents and the Ilos team only survive because of luck and even then maintaining cryo for centuries is difficult due difficulties in power management. The Ilos team once started with hundreds maybe thousands of individuals but at the end there were only six individuals left since vigil had to divert power from most of the cryo pods so logistics does play a major factor in this and planning for it means leaving no room for error as the smallest of mistakes could ruin everything.

[katamuro]

I doubt they are going to stray so far as to go to a different galaxy. Its probably going to be an uncharted region of space with some new relays, or even a chain or relays that were shut off from the main network by the reapers for some reason. And now that they are gone its opened up. Or something. 

[Drone223]

I doubt they are going to stray so far as to go to a different galaxy. Its probably going to be an uncharted region of space with some new relays, or even a chain or relays that were shut off from the main network by the reapers for some reason. And now that they are gone its opened up. Or something. 

^This 99% of the galaxy hasn't been explored so there is no shortage in stories to tell.

[Nitrocuban]

The moe I think abou it ...

Playing as Prothean enslaving the whole galaxy back in the days could be fun.

Not for ME4, but being a ****** with an galactic empire backing me up sounds kinda cool.

[Dr. Megaverse]

If it truly is uncharted space....I'm guessing it'll be about some unmapped relay(s).

 

My guess too.  Throw in a dash of "go find the [insert deus ex machina] and we win" and you've got a game EA will sell. 

[NM_Che56]

Bioware keeps saying that we'll be surprised by how far they'll go to the point that it's like a mantra.  Assuming that statement is being applied to the travel and exploration elements, then surprising me does not constitute staying the the Milky Way.  Who's going to be surprised by the status quo?

[Pyro411]

^Problem is that all the prothean's plans were ruined by indoctrinated agents and the Ilos team only survive because of luck and even then maintaining cryo for centuries is difficult due difficulties in power management. The Ilos team once started with hundreds maybe thousands of individuals but at the end there were only six individuals left since vigil had to divert power from most of the cryo pods so logistics does play a major factor in this and planning for it means leaving no room for error as the smallest of mistakes could ruin everything.

 

Indeed there are issues but it's not impossible

 

Ilo was a planetary based suspended animation base which would have required them to lower or shield energy output from detection to ensure survival via secrecy.

 

Eden the planet Javik was ultimately found on failed because of an ongoing attack after being sold out by indoctrinated soldiers and was under attack but then protected by detonating a Neutron bomb to decimate all organic life if I remember the mission properly.

 

The colony ships could in theory work...

On Ilo, Eden, and Thessia they had Prothian VI capable of identifying indoctrinated life forms which in theory could have worked as gatekeepers for evac ships that would take colonists to long distance evac ship(s)

 

If there were multiple ships, every ship would act as an independent cell from the rest, no ship would know of a 2nd ship ever.

 

To protect all of the ships, a dummy ship with "volunteers" would be sent out with X number of agents being sent out with the knowledge of that one ship being the life line & knowing the trajectory used to divert the attention of the reaper forces for just long enough for the other ship(s) to escape the galaxy.

 

Once the other ship(s) are out of the galaxy they could fully utilize their power plants aboard the ship to put the crew into stasis and then hand over keys to the course to the on board VI which would then plot a course into the next galaxy & locate a habitable planet for its crew.

 

Fast forward 40-50 thousand years with the evolution of the species as a whole and technology you would have many many Prothians really really PO'd at the legacy they were given to eradicate the Reapers and reclaim their home.

 

Yep I know I know it almost directly reflects the story of the Geth vs Quarians on a much larger scale.

 

Potential downfalls

Any number of hostile Races could find the Protheans or data left behind by them and want to claim our Galaxy or enslave and exploit the Reapers for their own gain

All ships failed to get to habitable planets before the crew perished leaving the VI floating & possibly returning as is or evolving into fully fledged AI

Protheans come back and after finding Reapers "Controlled/Destroyed or Organic life turned Hybrid" they could try to reclaim their planets by force to eradicate the remnants of the Reaper forces and the Alliance that completed what they could not.

Protheans come back to our Galaxy with Military might and attempt to return to their seat of power to rule how they ruled the previous cycle, deeming the lesser species worthy of being within their alliance.

 

Potential outcomes if the Protheans return

-- Javick is seen on the Extranet and just before he can commit suicide his people find him and beg for his help with trouble in their galaxies. -- If Javick is dead they'll head to the citadel as it's being rebuilt.  -- Queue the Remote galaxy exploration, politics, growth of Military might.

-- Mass Relays opened up for full galaxy exploration and a new relay between the Citadel and Galaxy X to allow more Protheans to make the trip easier between galaxies

-- Yahg given space flight by Protheans either intentionally or via a crashed ship onto the home planet of the Yahg -- oops

 

Or if what I saw several months ago stating that the Reapers were in fact attempting to force an evolution fast enough to stop a cataclysmic event through destruction and conflict.  We would now be attempting to stop the "Big Crunch" aka the opposite of the "Big Bang" where the universe would be collapsing into a single point in space to become a new big bang & reboot the universe.

[Sion1138]

Bioware keeps saying that we'll be surprised by how far they'll go to the point that it's like a mantra.  Assuming that statement is being applied to the travel and exploration elements, then surprising me does not constitute staying the the Milky Way.  Who's going to be surprised by the status quo?

 

Far can be used with regard to time also, among myriad other things.

 

That quote really doesn't tell me anything.

[Wayning_Star]

far as I could tell, the next stories will have a lot of travel/exploration involved. They said that it's a "huge" universe with expansive spaces to explore. I'd post the quote/url, but the system here won't let me past stuff... well at least not easily. Simple stuff like the machine people would be interesting. Maybe a side quest or something about them? just say'n