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Mass Effect 4 : Just do a re-boot.


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#51
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I'm going to pretend you didn't say that  :P

 

Oh, come on, It'll be great! We'll glow in the dark so we don't stub our toes when we get up to pee in the middle of the night (maybe we won't even need to urinate anymore). We'll be able to talk to husks and other sewn/glued together creatures. We can program the dog to walk itself.



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The TES version of the sequel to ME3:

 

* The year is 2383

* People talk about the war with the reapers

* The reapers are no longer in the galaxy but no one mentions whether they were destroyed or stayed around.

* Everyone has extensive cybernetic implants, but whether they are born with them is never mentioned, and you can buy additional ones.

* AIs are legal.

* The Volus are stirring up trouble and attempting to break away from the Turian Primacy.


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#53
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Possibly.  But it would never be outright admitted.  

 

More likely it would be them saying "There's too much divergence going forward.  There is no way we can make a proper sequel and respect the choices made.  So here's a new Mass Effect series where we actually put some thought into where it's going"

 

It would have the benefit of being true as well.

 

If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's that fans are particularly uncharitable. If they reboot the the trilogy, most likely they will generally assume the worst: that they're finally admitting that the original trilogy sucked eggs and kicked everyone's grandmothers, and they're going to now put an amusement park over the original trilogy's grave so they can get more money out of the franchise.



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I'm not the kind of player who can pretend something didn't happen, especially when that "something" took me a few hundred hours to get through and absorb. Plus, I can't pretend all those wonderful supporting characters didn't exist.

 

Everytime I would play this game I would think "Oh this is the new thing is in this reboot" or "This used to be a..." It just wouldn't sit right with me. You guys can pretend like the starchild isn't at the Citadel, or Harbinger isn't assuming control somewhere, but I can't.

 

I'm going to want to know what happens NEXT.

 

This isn't DC or Marvel comics where you do whatever you want then say "multiverse" and reset everything. Suddenly Flash is half black and Aquaman is badass.

 

I have no idea how they're going to incorporate three distinct endings into one setting and make them all work together, but reboot isn't the answer.



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If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's that fans are particularly uncharitable. If they reboot the the trilogy, most likely they will generally assume the worst: that they're finally admitting that the original trilogy sucked eggs and kicked everyone's grandmothers, and they're going to now put an amusement park over the original trilogy's grave so they can get more money out of the franchise.

Now imagine what would happen if they tried to accommodate everyone's choices in the trilogy in a way that gets everyone to the same point.

 

Or if they canonized a particular outcome and told everyone if they didn't play a particular Shepard they were doing it wrong.

 

Something tells me popular opinion would go pretty much the same way.



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If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's that fans are particularly uncharitable. If they reboot the the trilogy, most likely they will generally assume the worst: that they're finally admitting that the original trilogy sucked eggs and kicked everyone's grandmothers, and they're going to now put an amusement park over the original trilogy's grave so they can get more money out of the franchise.

 

The best course of action would be just to drop the IP and work on something else, but there are a few rea$on$ why they probably won't do that.

 

Who knows though, maybe DA:I will change my opinion on everything.



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Well, they are working on a new IP at the same time, so there's that.



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Well hasn't it been said that the next Mass Effect game isn't even officially called Mass Effect 4?

 

If there's no ' 4 ' at the end then I'd find it hard to believe that it's a sequel anyway. They wouldn't need a ' 4 ' for the next Mass Effect to be a sequel and I know that but how would you call it then for it to be a sequel without a ' 4 ' when in fact ME2 and ME3 were numbered and had no subtitles. My point is that I don't think that the "Next Mass Effect" will even be a sequel to start with. I just have the very bad feeling that the game's events will indeed occur during the same events of the trilogy, be it during ME1's, 2's or 3's, exactly when during the trilogy we don't know but it's supposedly been "hinted" already.

 

At this point in time, however, it's probably too late for BioWare to change that, specifically, they ARE working on it already it's not like they still need to plan the very basics, they're past the "let's try to figure out just what ME4 can be" phase. They surely planned something already and I do think that it will be during the trilogy's events sometime between ME1 and ME3. This is ultimately just speculation overall but it isn't now that BioWare are going to go "You know what, actually, let's scrap the plan we have right now and let's make a reboot instead even if it means starting all over again and releasing the game in a century from now". Nope, won't happen.

 

But, keep in mind that I completely agree, a reboot is a necessity for the franchise, in my opinion as well... it just won't happen, put on X on that.



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Bioware should just make a prequel or game that takes place during the events of ME1 and ME2, then they don't have to deal with ME3 for a while. (although Bioware should definitely retconn ME3 or just declare it as non-canon someday).



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Bioware should just make a prequel or game that takes place during the events of ME1 and ME2, then they don't have to deal with ME3 for a while. (although Bioware should definitely retconn ME3 or just declare it as non-canon someday).

So... you want them to add on more story to a game that doesn't have an ending, because BioWare somehow decided to say that ME3 never happened in the near future? So what is it that you want exactly if you don't want the story to end?



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So... you want them to add on more story to a game that doesn't have an ending, because BioWare somehow decided to say that ME3 never happened in the near future? So what is it that you want exactly if you don't want the story to end?

Do you even know what "retcon" means?



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Do you even know what "retcon" means?

I was more interested in the "non-canon," since you said "or" which meant you wanted BioWare to state that ME3 should be completely ignored as another option if ME3 was not somehow altered for continuity.

 

And yes, I do know what "retcon" means.



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Declare ME3 as non-canon and replace it with a new game with a good story (not written by Mac Walters, thank you)?

 

Better?



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ME3 is what it is and it's not gonna get changed now. I mean, come on. It's two years old already. It's done. ME:Next is on the (distant) horizon, on a shiny new engine. Play it or not, as you like; we'll all have that same choice. Me, I can't wait to drive around in the shiny new Mako, and kill some shiny new bad guys with shiny new powers and shiny new weapons. 


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Declare ME3 as non-canon and replace it with a new game with a good story (not written by Mac Walters, thank you)?
 
Better?


Yeah, that will make things better.

"Bioware lied to us, they sold us a game that didn't even happen!!"

And the sh*tstorm starts again.

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Canonizing Synthesis would mean they would have to put some thought into it past Organic + Synthesis = Super Good, and I don't think the writers considered how big a can of worms that is.

I think it's not "super-good" and also the most interesting future, but I have no confidence in the writers' ability to handle such complex things appropriately.

On the whole, I prefer a sequel based on a default ending of the trilogy, even if it's not based on the one I prefer. My timeline will be AU, but I can live with that. A reboot isn't going to work for me because I'll always associate certain periods of the timeline with the Reaper War.

@Psychewar:
No matter what they do, some group of fans will raise a sh*tstorm about it, but it will most certainly be a very small minority. For most people the trilogy is firmly in the past now, and new games in the same universe are unlikely to re-open old wounds unless they do something in their own storyline reminiscent of what happenen in ME3.

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So... you want them to add on more story to a game that doesn't have an ending, because BioWare somehow decided to say that ME3 never happened in the near future? So what is it that you want exactly if you don't want the story to end?

 

This objection works only in case that new story would be somehow connected to Reapers, Shepard or Cerberus.

 

Separate story with own heroes and self-contained storyline set before original series or during ME1 and ME2 don't need reference to end of Reapers war. 



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The TES version of the sequel to ME3:

 

* The year is 2383

* People talk about the war with the reapers

* The reapers are no longer in the galaxy but no one mentions whether they were destroyed or stayed around.

* Everyone has extensive cybernetic implants, but whether they are born with them is never mentioned, and you can buy additional ones.

* AIs are legal.

* The Volus are stirring up trouble and attempting to break away from the Turian Primacy.

Did they merge governments with the hanar?



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* The Volus are stirring up trouble and attempting to break away from the Turian Primacy.

 

Led by the famous volus general Ul Frik, who assasinated the primarch in single combat?

 

How would a volus with the Thu'um even work?   :lol: