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[Maria Caliban]

Yes, all the Old Gods are male.

They might be dragons. They might be powerful beings who took the shape of dragons.

[SardaukarElite]

Has anyone checked the sex of an Archdemon?

 

Dragon blood forms a 'link' doesn't it? Think of the Archdemon and the darkspawn or High dragons and Reaver cultists. They gain memories, power, and can possibly communicate through it.

 

I was wondering whether there was a link between Archdemon's controlling the horde and High Dragon's influencing cultists.

 

I imagine a reaver warden would starting developing personality issues.

[Char]

Aren't the Old Gods male? All high dragons are female.

 

This raises interesting questions for me:

Have there always been a finite number of Old Gods?

If not, did/do they reproduce asexually?

Do the Old Gods define themselves as male entities, or is this something attributed by their worshippers?

 

I think I need to have less spare time.

[Xilizhra]

Has anyone checked the sex of an Archdemon?

I think that it comes from the magisters hearing their voices.

[SardaukarElite]

I think that it comes from the magisters hearing their voices.

 

Right, I meant that finding out the gender of an Archdemon (or lack of one) might have interesting implications on the whole dragon but not a dragon thing.

 

 

If anything Haven presents the best opportunity for character development for the Warden (IMO of course). After drinking Andraste's blood it's all down hill from there. Imagine having to stave off the voices of two different dragons in your head simultaneously. Insanity can justify a lot of 'lulz evil' in DA:O.

 

I hadn't thought about it before but it is interesting. Though I could never see the point in siding with Kolgrim in the moment he's just a really, really crazy guy in a cave. It's like picking werewolves over archers for your dragon fighting force.

[AshenEndymion]

 A high dragon doesn't 'make deals' with dragon cultists any more than a hippopotamus makes deals with Oxpecker birds.

 

Do hippopotamus eat oxpecker birds, now? I mean, regularly enough to make it surprising that there would be a symbiotic relationship to begin with?

[Dean_the_Young]

Aren't the Old Gods male? All high dragons are female.

 

What the Old Gods were referred to doesn't really matter to what their composition or identity were. Spirits are also cast in gender terms even though it's well established that they are non-gendered concepts.

 

Old Gods being referred to as male can be as much a patriarchial culture relating to a gender-neutral being as anything else. It's not like I expect a spirit possessing a female animal to adopt gender identity.

 

 

 

 

We know that demons will possess corpses and cats, so that doesn't tell us much.
 

That would be interesting.

 

A personal suspicion of mine is that at least some of the deities of the setting were actually exceptionally powerful spirits and their subordinate hierarchies. That applies more to polytheistic religions like the Dalish, but the fact that the Old God altars have been tied to spirits is also my personal basis for that.

[Maria Caliban]

I thought it interesting that the Altar to Dumat would grant you a boon centuries after anyone had worshiped at it. That's not even like the ashes of Andreste where you could argue the substance itself had intrinsic properties.

Is there a spirit just hanging out there long after it should be able to feed on anything? Is it a magical ritual that non-mages can perform?

[LaughingWolf]

I think of Dragons in DA as just giant scaled fire breathing wolves. In the sense that, they are wild and territorial and will attack you if you threaten them or there food, but I do think they can be tamed like a wolf hypothetically (it'd just be incredibly difficult).

[Char]

I thought it interesting that the Altar to Dumat would grant you a boon centuries after anyone had worshiped at it. That's not even like the ashes of Andreste where you could argue the substance itself had intrinsic properties.

Is there a spirit just hanging out there long after it should be able to feed on anything? Is it a magical ritual that non-mages can perform?

 

I found that very suspicious, and also that Corypheus was able to draw power from the statues despite Dumat supposedly being several hundred years deceased. The games always seem to provide me with more questions than answers.

[Basement Cat]

As long as Andraste is worshiped the spirit of Dumat will exist.

 

[/headcanon based on a very plausible theory]

Do tell.

[Master Warder Z_]

As long as Andraste is worshiped the spirit of Dumat will exist.

 

[/headcanon based on a very plausible theory]

 

._. If this is another Andraste is Flemeth/ An Old God rant so help me...

[Basement Cat]

Here. I first speculated this on the DA wikia when WoT came out and it escalated from that into a full blown theory. 

Fascinating. That would add a nice extra layer of nightmare fuel to an already dark world.

[Xilizhra]

Here. I first speculated this on the DA wikia when WoT came out and it escalated from that into a full blown theory. 

A theory quite like my own, but better elaborated upon.

[Master Warder Z_]

Nah, Flemeth is too convoluted. And I tried to be as factual as possible. No asspulls; I swear.

 

Ah, well i do admit you have an interesting theory although i thought he was  literal when he stated the sun baked the crops in the field and caused famine, i didn't take it an actual fire burning the crops, Because from what he stated, it was caused by the Maker directly, So i took it as an act of nature.

 

Aka Drought combined with ****** poor medieval irrigation.

 

Something ponder i guess.

[Lulupab]

I wouldn't want to kill a self aware creature to be honest as long as they are not trying to take over the world or something, its good to know I'm not going to do that. So in a way the dragons are not different that the random bear that attacks your party, they are just bigger and stronger and also favorite body for many "things" such as the archdemons and Flemeth.

[Lulupab]

And don't forget the Darkspawn ravaging Tevinter lands at the time.

[Char]

I wouldn't want to kill a self aware creature to be honest as long as they are not trying to take over the world or something, its good to know I'm not going to do that. So in a way the dragons are not different that the random bear that attacks your party, they are just bigger and stronger and also favorite body for many "things" such as the archdemons and Flemeth.

I don't disagree with you, but it does amuse me that so many people don't want to kill dragons if they happen to be intelligent virtual people-killing creatures, but are generally not bothered by cutting down swathes of virtual humans. It's not a dig, nor an insult, its just an observation that humans are strange creatures indeed

[TheJediSaint]

I'd unquestionably agree if the timing of it wasn't coincidental. Just as the barbarian horde marches on the Imperium all their crop stores go to ****? Too convenient for my tastes, but it's definitely a possibility.

To be fair, the Western Roman Empire collapsed largely because they were fighting a series of civil wars at the same time as a major barbarian migration.

[Master Warder Z_]

I'd unquestionably agree if the timing of it wasn't coincidental. Just as the barbarian horde marches on the Imperium all their crop stores go to ****? Too convenient for my tastes, but it's definitely a possibility.

 

Well i suppose, but then history seems filled with coincidences that helped one army or another defeat a seemingly unstoppable Horde...Usually when they were trying to invade Asia (Stupid idea getting into a land war in Asia)