Meh. I'm of the belief that people who call the Qunari "kossith" are just pretentious d-bags who want to lord insignificant knowledge over others, and are, quite frankly, idiots, for not being able to grasp 3rd grade context clues that easily distinguish when someone's talking about the race and when they're talking about the faith.
Or they just like precision and being able to avoid making people grasp for "3rd grade context clues" where unnecessary.Meh. I'm of the belief that people who call the Qunari "kossith" are just pretentious d-bags who want to lord insignificant knowledge over others, and are, quite frankly, idiots, for not being able to grasp 3rd grade context clues that easily distinguish when someone's talking about the race and when they're talking about the faith.
Meh. I'm of the belief that people who call the Qunari "kossith" are just pretentious d-bags who want to lord insignificant knowledge over others, and are, quite frankly, idiots, for not being able to grasp 3rd grade context clues that easily distinguish when someone's talking about the race and when they're talking about the faith.
lol... yeah that was a little harsh. xD Funny, but harsh.
(edit: not that I agree with this, but it did make me lol...)
Meh. I'm of the belief that people who call the Qunari "kossith" are just pretentious d-bags who want to lord insignificant knowledge over others, and are, quite frankly, idiots, for not being able to grasp 3rd grade context clues that easily distinguish when someone's talking about the race and when they're talking about the faith.
Very hurtful.
I think I'll name my firstborn child Kossith Apple Fancy. Secondborn, Yes-I-do-call-them-"kossith" Jermajesty Pilot Inspektor Fancy.
Meh. I'm of the belief that people who call the Qunari "kossith" are just pretentious d-bags who want to lord insignificant knowledge over others, and are, quite frankly, idiots, for not being able to grasp 3rd grade context clues that easily distinguish when someone's talking about the race and when they're talking about the faith.
You would just say the discussion is pedantic and leave it at that.
This topic again? I go with the word of Gaider. But if you want to call them Kossith, feel free to do so.
Can we just use Qunari to refer to the Jewish people and Qunari to refer to the Jewish religion?
Hmmm. I always thought Kossith was the race, and Qunari was the lifestyle/culture, but I don't know for sure. Interesting debate.
Kossith was the name for their species, until Koslun brought them the Qun. Then, they became the Qunari, and subsequently, the name for their race was changed to qunari with a lower case 'q'.
They are qunari as a race, and Qunari as a religion. Technically, the term 'kossith' is incorrect, while the term 'qunari' is correct. Those tall ashen skinned, horned people (and those like the Sten; whom have no horns) not of the Qun are called Tal-Vashoth, but their race is called "qunari".
End of.
The link to Gaider's blog post is the answer to this debate, but to put simply, i personally just went by both context clues and that the term Qunari is basically like real life "Jewish" where it's possibly a race and/or a religion.
Kossith was the name for their species, until Koslun brought them the Qun. Then, they became the Qunari, and subsequently, the name for their race was changed to qunari with a lower case 'q'.
They are qunari as a race, and Qunari as a religion. Technically, the term 'kossith' is incorrect, while the term 'qunari' is correct. Those tall ashen skinned, horned people (and those like the Sten; whom have no horns) not of the Qun are called Tal-Vashoth, but their race is called "qunari".
End of.
I know it makes it all the more confusing but Qunari isn't correct either, that's just what most people in game will be calling them. There is no name for the race or at least non the Qunari would accept. 
Ofc I still think it more sensible to call them qunari and I generally do the lower case q thing when talking about the race. 
Kossith is an archaic term. No one in Thedas uses it.
There's:
Qunari (people of the Qun)
qunari (the race)
Viddathari (Thedosians who've converted to the Qun)
Vashoth ('Grey Ones' who have left the Qun or were never part of it)
and Tal-Vashoth ('True Grey Ones' that oppose the Qun)
That was very informative, thanks.
I use oxman when I need to make the distinction
As I said before, I would very much enjoy it if Bioware parodied this debate, using some of the exact arguments and dialogue, in game between two NPCs, further confusing the debate.
As I said before, I would very much enjoy it if Bioware parodied this debate, using some of the exact arguments and dialogue, in game between two NPCs, further confusing the debate.
Funny but I doubt they will. Unless we are going to come across a Qunari Scholar or maybe a Tammasran (who would be unlikely to be having this argument in the fist place) then we shouldn't even be hearing the word in game as few people in Thedas have ever even heard it. Even most of the Qunari wouldn't know it.
Wow.... So, that question was not meant to have the forum degrade into a mess of whatever that was....
I was just inquiring into the possibility of being of the Qun or being a (as I now know it to be) "Vashoth." that followed the Chantry.... Ya'll went nuts with other stuff, though there were some very informative answers and I thank you for that 
Might help some about the differences.
I use oxman when I need to make the distinction
That sounds demeaning... seems like something a human on Thedas would come up with. Oh wait...
I have the sneaking suspicion that if you were to attempt to refer to a modern Qunari as being "Kossith", they'd simply reply that you were "Maraas imekari: A child bleating without meaning".
I have the sneaking suspicion that if you were to attempt to refer to a modern Qunari as being "Kossith", they'd simply reply that you were "Maraas imekari: A child bleating without meaning".
I love this! I actually find the philosophy of the Qun to be quite fascinating and fee that it would be interesting to explore them more deeply
I have the sneaking suspicion that if you were to attempt to refer to a modern Qunari as being "Kossith", they'd simply reply that you were "Maraas imekari: A child bleating without meaning".
And a Vashoth would probably appreciate the distinction. You know, since I doubt they identify themselves as "qunari".
It's interesting that the "preferred" word for a Kossith that doesn't know of the Qun is a Qunari word.
I bet there are some fans out there that are so hard core that they are trying to live the Qunari philosophy in real life.
As for the discussion in this thread, I go with what Gaider said. Qunari is a follower of the Qun, qunari is the race.
I love this! I actually find the philosophy of the Qun to be quite fascinating and fee that it would be interesting to explore them more deeply
They are probably the most interesting and multi-faceted race in Thedas.
They have a sense of wisdom and perspective about the world that none of the other races can match, which is strange considering they're probably the most dogmatic and intolerant race in the entire setting (which says a lot) and their treatment of mages, outsiders and those who leave their ranks is often inhumane and downright deplorable.
Really, they're just highly indoctrinated members of an extremely militant cult.
Which makes their obvious disdain for religion a tad hypocritical, given that we often see the Qunari's "faith" in the wisdom of the Qun as being no different than those who follow the Chant of Light to an overzealous degree.
Going by that article from David Gaider it seems that if you referred to a modern qunari as "kossith", you'd generally just get blank stares as most of them don't even know the term.I have the sneaking suspicion that if you were to attempt to refer to a modern Qunari as being "Kossith", they'd simply reply that you were "Maraas imekari: A child bleating without meaning".
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