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[Kingthlayer]

Leliana, Cassandra and Cullen, with the information we have about those three, they're all pro Chantry, and we know the Inquisition is the Divine's special little plan.  Now I'm not saying they're planning on sabotaging the Inquisitor in any way, but if we make choices that goes against the Chantry I can see them hatching plans to attempt to overthrow the Inquisitor.

 

Also Iron Bull, we know he reports to the Qun, we also know he's upfront about it so if we don't want that we don't recruit him.  But at some point in time, it's likely he'll have to make a choice between the Inquisition and the Qun.  I think it will be handled like Wrex or Sten where he approaches the Inquisitor and deals with it like a man(or whatever) but I won't rule out the possibility of him having his mercenary group ambush us and we're stuck with 2 companions against him and his guys.

[katerinafm]

I don't think Vivienne will betray us, she has no reason to. The inquisition has all the power, and it's in her best interest to help the inquisitor resolve everything so she can get back in power. Leliana? I don't know. Maybe if we're an evil character.

[AshenEndymion]

Honestly?  My money is on Varric.  Something tells me that If the Inquisition doesn't put the common folk first, he's going to turn on the Inquisitor...  That's probably going to be the most surprising one.

 

I think, other than Cassandra, every companion will likely have some point(or more than one) where they could decide that the Inquisition isn't worth it and/or the Inquisitor shouldn't be alive anymore.  Solas and Dorian if the Inquisitor goes 100% pro-circle.  Vivienne if you go anti-mage in general(or even anti-Circle, from the descriptions of her).  Cole if you're "pro-suffering".  It all will likely depend on how an Inquisitor acts, rather than from a story standpoint of "X companion will always betray you".

 

That said, I'm sure some of these "betrayals" will be mitigated by the fact that, if your Inquisitor really is that anti/pro-whatever, you probably didn't pick up that companion to begin with.

[Samahl]

I'm gonna be best buds with everyone, so I don't think so.

[Medhia_Nox]

@AshenEndymion:  Also, concerning Varric - and I can't remember what it was in DA2 that made me feel this way - I feel he's a "bard" in the Orlesian sense... working for Flemeth.  Of course, that doesn't mean I won't trust him, since I think Flemeth is a bit of alright.

 

I won't trust Cole - unless somehow my Inquisitor is blind (or Hawke) and can't tell he's a spirit (demon). 

 

Sera is angry elf - probably with a chip on her shoulder - so I'll be wary of her, but we'll talk.

 

The rest are blank slates.

[Bekalynn]

As a possible betrayer, I would think Leliana would be the best bet. She's a religious zealot, and it's all too easy to excuse what would otherwise be considered dishonorable, unethical, or highly immoral actions as appropriate if done in the name of religious belief. History's all too littered with people who've done exactly that. I liked the Leliana character, and I trusted her to a degree, but her religious fervor always made me a tad uncomfortable which is why I never, in numerous playthroughs of DA:O, romanced her. Obviously her zealotry has only increased over the years in her role as the Left Hand of the Divine; she served as the Divine's spy and assassin, killing, subverting, whatever in the name of the Maker and Andraste. I can totally see her ultimately betraying the Inquisitor and the Inquisition if she thought it would somehow save her religion and/or it's place of power and influence in the world.

[javeart]

I'm betting on Blackwall.

[Medhia_Nox]

@Bekalynn:  *Sigh*  She's not a zealot... she's actually a religious heretic.   Also, I recommend reading Asunder to see how her "religious zealotry" plays out.

[TheKomandorShepard]

@Bekalynn:  *Sigh*  She's not a zealot... she's actually a religious heretic.   Also, I recommend reading Asunder to see how her "religious zealotry" plays out.

She caused mage-templar war because divine told her...

 

Well those things don't exclude each other she have slightly different views than chantry on some things (or at least had) but that doesn't stop her from being zealot like in petrice case who had her own vision of the chantry.

[Medhia_Nox]

@TheKomandorShepard:  Revising the Chantry is not heretical. 

Believing the Maker lives in Nature - is VERY heretical. 

 

And, of course, she so did not begin the war. 

[Bekalynn]

@Medhia_Nox: True, she is. But...I would argue that religious heretics can also be zealots. And equally scary.

 

I've been reluctant to read the books because I rather feared it would interfere with my enjoyment of the games, especially the world state that I created in my playthroughs. Still, it's looking more and more like I'm going to have to break down and read them, if only to understand all the viewpoints! Thanks...

[TheKomandorShepard]

@TheKomandorShepard:  Revising the Chantry is not heretical. 

Believing the Maker lives in Nature - is VERY heretical. 

 

And, of course, she so did not begin the war. 

What still don't exclude another.

 

Who helped mages escape what allowed them to rebel?

[Medhia_Nox]

Adrian would have forced a war regardless of the Divine and Leliana... that girl is a psycho.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Adrian would have forced a war regardless of the Divine and Leliana... that girl is a psycho.

Hardly as without divine and leliana she would stay in prison divne let that psycho go and be free and many other crazy mages.

[Chernaya]

I don't see Leliana as a zealot. She's willing to compromise. Defiling the ashes was a pretty ****ed up thing, even if you aren't religious so I could understand that scene. I'd say Sister Petrice would more fit the role of religious zealot. 

[X Equestris]

As a possible betrayer, I would think Leliana would be the best bet. She's a religious zealot, and it's all too easy to excuse what would otherwise be considered dishonorable, unethical, or highly immoral actions as appropriate if done in the name of religious belief. History's all too littered with people who've done exactly that. I liked the Leliana character, and I trusted her to a degree, but her religious fervor always made me a tad uncomfortable which is why I never, in numerous playthroughs of DA:O, romanced her. Obviously her zealotry has only increased over the years in her role as the Left Hand of the Divine; she served as the Divine's spy and assassin, killing, subverting, whatever in the name of the Maker and Andraste. I can totally see her ultimately betraying the Inquisitor and the Inquisition if she thought it would somehow save her religion and/or it's place of power and influence in the world.

Leliana is most definitely not a zealot. Devout, yes, but not a zealot.

As for who might betray us, I'm thinking some of the mage companions may turn on you if you side with the Templars. I don't think there will be anyone who will be scripted to betray you no matter what, though. Companions might turn if their approval isn't high enough, like in previous titles.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I don't see Leliana as a zealot. She's willing to compromise. Defiling the ashes was a pretty ****ed up thing, even if you aren't religious so I could understand that scene. I'd say Sister Petrice would more fit the role of religious zealot. 

Not rly it was grey choice why it was screwd up pretty much it was to avoid fight with dragon and cultists rather practical choice than "evil" unless you did it for kicks.I didn't saw how she was willing to compromise...

[Medhia_Nox]

@TheKomandorShepard: And yet the Andrastian "zealot" can be talked off a ledge if you destroy the Ashes in certain types of playthroughs.

[TheKomandorShepard]

@TheKomandorShepard: And yet the Andrastian "zealot" can be talked off a ledge if you destroy the Ashes in certain types of playthroughs.

Only if you harden and then intimidate her and she will say she doesn't stand chance against you but she will remember that.

 

But i argue more that she is now one than she was one before as she seems even more agressive about her beliefs than before.

 

And well we rather start go away from the topic.

[CrimsonN7]

Leliana is not a religious zealot, she doesn't force anyone to believe in her religion. She has her faith, it has given her a new purpose in life and something to believe in, she draws comfort from it, like most born again religious folk do. You can straight up mock her beliefs and she will argue her point back, she'll be a little upset and disapprove but she'll carry on in your company anyway, I doubt a religious zealot would do that.

 

And seriously if anyone went into a church/synagogue etc and wrecked it in some way of course people would be upset, it's an incredibly disrespectful thing to do. So why would people be upset with her if they brought her along to see the Ashes and defiled them, a holy shrine, something of tremendous meaning to her beliefs. How dare she be upset with the Warden, she is obviously insane.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Leliana is not a religious zealot, she doesn't force anyone to believe in her religion. She has her faith, it has given her a new purpose in life and something to believe in, she draws comfort from it, like most born again religious folk do. You can straight up mock her beliefs and she will argue her point back, she'll be a little upset and disapprove but she'll carry on in your company anyway, I doubt a religious zealot would do that.

 

And seriously if anyone went into a church/synagogue etc and wrecked it in some way of course people would be upset, it's an incredibly disrespectful thing to do. So why would people be upset with her if they brought her along to see the Ashes and defiled them, a holy shrine, something of tremendous meaning to her beliefs. How dare she be upset with the Warden, she is obviously insane.

She just kill for her religion and god.

And as i said i argue more about her now than before (dao).

 

Well if i went to the church and destroyed religious relic i could see why someone would be angry but if priest pulled out a machine gun and started shoot at me i could rather argue.

 

But as i said before it is off-topic as it is about what character you don't trust it started innocently with why you don't trust leliana and turned why leliana is/isn't zealot.So well if we want discuss that better take that to leliana thread or pm. 

[The dead fish]

One thing I didn't like, it's the marketing around Vivienne with one annoying line in a trailer. : " But what is her true agenda ? " 

 

I was like " geez... really bioware ? "

 

It wasn't really necessary in my opinion. 

[Hazegurl]

solas, viv, and cole. One of them will try to come for me and I'll be ready.