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#51
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The greatest irony in the game:

Templars wear robes too and the combination of robe and plate armor is possibly the ugliest armor ever made history of games. (its used in other games too no just DA)

 

Excuse me, templars wear skirts. There's a difference.  :P


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Don't forget we seem to have Morrigan. She was important enough to put up on the website with the companions and advisers. Maybe she serves as the permanent mage consultant. 

As long as I don't have to do anything she says, that's fine.



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Every character in our group will offer advice on their area of expertise.

 

Chantry Law, Andrastian lore, and the finer points on leading an organization like the Inquisition?  Cassandra

 

All things related to the Qun?  Iron Bull

 

Darkspawn and other Grey Warden matters?  Blackwall

 

Circle politics, purpose, and rules?  Vivienne

 

Tevinter, Venatori, other obscure demonology knowledge?  Dorian

 

Fade?  Solas

 

Orlesian criminal underground, plights of the common folk?  Sera

 

Unique and unexpected perspectives on all of the above?  Cole

 

A little bit of everything?  Varric

 

Templars, military and organizational strategy?  Cullen

 

Espionage?  Leliana

 

Diplomacy?  Josephine

 

I'm confident we'll have a valuable resource for virtually everything we could possibly want to know about the state of Thedas in DAI.


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With three mage companions, there will be no shortage of mage advice.
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Title says it all, I think it would have been a good thing to have a mage advisor as well. 

 

Indeed - It would have balanced out the templars on the team (who are - probably - still pro-chantry I would imagine)

 

Fiona might have been nice for that position (and someone more prominent instead of Cullen for that military-advisor!)

 

Oh and I would have loved an advisor on how to deal with the common people (and the shadier side of things, like the Cotterie (spelling?) and other Mafia-Like organisations)...maybe a former servant (the orlesian empresses former servant comes to mind) :)

 

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ps: all of our companions/advisors (not counting Solas, Cole and Iron Bull - due to them being far from an ordinary person who came up the ranks of say the military) are pretty high born (remember: Leliana grew up on an orlesian estate and was trained as a bard, Cassandra is part of a noble (hell, royal even I would say) family, the Iron-Lady (Vivienne) is part of the Circle (which is a pretty cushy/sheltered live...at least if you like being watched all the time...gilded cage anyone?) etc. - only our Wildcard-Archer (got damned - what's her name again?) and maybe Blackwall (do we know much about his background?) are (or might be in Blackwalls case) of common stock (as a noble would say)...there's no criminal among the companions, which is something I would have loved (someone who likes making jokes about nobles and does not like them) :)



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 DarthLaxian I believe the one to ask questions concerning the shadier parts of the world will be Varric (and he was pretty good at mocking/having negative opinions about nobility:) ).

 

 Edit: but it is understandable why our advisors are pro-chantrly since the organization is created by Seeker....althought I wonder why we can't replace them.



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With three mage companions, there will be no shortage of mage advice.

 

Yup, we'll be fine.



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Like some have mentioned already we have a nice variety of mages as companions so we'll be getting their advice, like it or not. :P  Don't see the need for a mage advisor with this set-up too.



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the military/strategy department being lead by a mage is something I'd have liked to see as well tbh... don't see a reason why a mage couldn't be in charge with that kind of branch of the inquisition.

 

I'm not too enthusiastic about cullen as it is but a choice between cullen and a mage advisor & character from a former game for that position would have been nice, except that there isnt really any mage fit for that kind of position coming to my mind except orsino maybe and well... we probably won't see him again. 
 



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@raupy:  Just because someone is a walking Tesla coil... doesn't make them an expert on military movements, supply lines, command... etc.

 

Either 1)  These mages had a LOT more freedom than BSN forumites believe or 2) Mages in DA would HAVE to be socially awkward and totally incapable of commanding people that aren't mages (if they can even command those). 

 

DA mages are like internet obsessives... sure, maybe they know everything about the blogosphere... but I wouldn't ask one to speak publicly.  (Oh!  That's stereotyping.  Yeah, well I'm over it.)



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While I would love for there to be a Mage Advisor, I agree that it might be taken by Morrigan in an unofficial role. She is a major character; I doubt she's just gonna appear when she is need. She'll be there giving advise in her own way. Besides, if she is the 'Mage Advisor', I can see it more as an unofficial role with her because...I doubt she would willingly join the Inquisition or they would want her to join. Not where she has to take orders herself.

 

As for Cullen being incompetent...I seem to recall having to save him once in the first Act. I think he did fairly well in the game (with the exception of the obliviousness...oh Cullen...), but Meredith wouldn't have made him second in command if he wasn't good. She has her morals, but she isn't going to let some incompetent person take that spot. She needs to know that the Knight-Captain can be reliable and take care of things for her. And they did say that after the Chantry blew up, Cullen rallied the Templars and restored order. So he's not a bad choice of an advisor in the military department. We just don't see it often.


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The greatest irony in the game:Templars wear robes too and the combination of robe and plate armor is possibly the ugliest armor ever made history of games. (its used in other games too no just DA)


Are you frikkin kidding me?!? Templar armor is by far the best looking armor in the DA franchise(not like that's a hard to win competition).
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Purely for banters sake, it would be very funny to have a mage adviser when two of your other advisers are with the chantry or at least have chantry views/history. Of course you could just get another anders vs meredith situation lol

 

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Just because someone is a walking Tesla coil... doesn't make them an expert on military movements, supply lines, command... etc.

 

I... can't really disagree lol. my memories of him are a bit flimsy, been a while since I played da2 but I remember him as a pretty awful yet interesting person turning to pretty awful means but nonetheless a good and inspiring leader for his people, the mages... 

 

oh well I just would like to see a mage in that kind of position of power, necessary or not it's a choice I would have liked to have. cullen's gonna do a good job but I don't really care for him as a character



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I can see a political conflict being resolved via diplomatic means, or forcefully. Now, how do we resolve this conflict via magical means - wave hands? What our hypothetical mage adviser would suggest - mind-control to pacify involved parties or simply raze both to the ground? That, I'd like to see.

What I say is that magic is a tool, that can be applied to all three of the branches. Too broad of a tool with many edges; and espionage, diplomacy and military is just some of them.

 

It seems you don't really understand what the role of advisers is.



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Are you frikkin kidding me?!? Templar armor is by far the best looking armor in the DA franchise(not like that's a hard to win competition).

 

You just spat on all the good armors DA have. Skirt + plate never works, see WoW and the fan rage on paladin armors with skirts.



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what with all the andrastian advisors I would've welcomed this, It also makes quite a bit of sense considering the arcane is a powerful force within this world. However I get the sneaking suspicion that we'll have a consultant on magical matters.



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You just spat on all the good armors DA have. Skirt + plate never works, see WoW and the fan rage on paladin armors with skirts.


There's not many, especially compared to Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma or the Final Fantasy games. Almost all armors in DA:O look terrible as there's maybe 5 different boring designs for each class that just keep being repeated over and over again in a different color. DA2 has the Weisshaupt Regalia, Champion's armor and a few of the dlc armors but that's it. Templar armor in both games (more in DA2 imo) stands out as something more unique and dat winged helmet...

It also depends what kind of skirt you're talking about, as about 80-90% of armors throughout human history incorporated some form of battle skirt.

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 Since we are talking about armors I would love if they added their 'unify(or was it unite?) colors' from their SWTOR game. Let's enter an age where we dont have the boots with weaker stats because of the color!



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Isn't Morrigan said to be the Empress' advisor this time 'round?

 

Maybe we can use her to learn a thing or twelve on the esoteric field of arcane arts.



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Isn't Morrigan said to be the Empress' advisor this time 'round?

 

Maybe we can use her to learn a thing or twelve on the esoteric field of arcane arts.

Yeah,  we've seen her alongside Cullen in a battle cutscene, she's been prominently featured on the introductory trailer, gets a spot in the 'characters' section on the site, which seems to have been reserved to companions/advisors otherwise, and we've been told multiple times that we'll see a lot of her. I'm guessing she fills the de facto magic advisor slot if not by name (plus, we of course know she fills that role for the Empress).



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The mage would be Andrastian as well

 

Only if the the mage adviser was from one of the Chantry controlled Circles, as opposed to someone like Morrigan.



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Only if the the mage adviser was from one of the Chantry controlled Circles, as opposed to someone like Morrigan.

 

Again with putting emphasis on chantry controlled, we get it already 


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You just spat on all the good armors DA have. Skirt + plate never works, see WoW and the fan rage on paladin armors with skirts.

 

Not to derail this, but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.  Paladin T2 is widely considered to be the best paladin armor to ever be released in WoW.  And it's ten years old.

 

Anyway, as many people have already pointed out, with three Mage companions, we will have more arcane advice than we would ever want, much less need.  I only hope Morrigan has learned something from Flemeth's technique.

  1. Show up, save hero
  2. Mutter gibberish and give quest
  3. Leave

It's perfect.



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Again with putting emphasis on chantry controlled, we get it already 

 

Considering how you assumed that the mage adviser would have to be Andrastian, that didn't seem to be the case.


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