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[KainD]

Besides, point is Corypheus is, by far, the most powerful mage in the setting yet.

 

Lolol? 

[Lulupab]

Says you. Buch of weak ice.
Besides, point is Corypheus is, by far, the most powerful mage in the setting yet.

Strongest that we fight that is. Also no one has been able to defeat him in nightmare difficulty without a mage in the party. Deal with it please, your warrior(s) are always backed by Wynne, Anders, Bethany etc... Without them you are nothing. Unless you play easy then good for you.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Because we are the bloody protagonist? Come on! We can just go and kill every single demon solo, without any organisations or party members! And get a nice achievement while we are at it. 

In a choice based game, there are bound to be "wrong choices". Getting support from weak and fractured groups while spurning the large and powerful, should be falling into that category. So even if you are the protagonist does not mean you are infallible.

[MisterJB]

Also no one has been able to defeat him in nightmare difficulty without a mage in the party.

[AresKeith]

Strongest that we fight that is. Also no one has been able to defeat him in nightmare difficulty without a mage in the party. Deal with it please, your warrior(s) are always backed by Wynne, Anders, Bethany etc... Without them you are nothing. Unless you play easy then good for you.

 

I have

[EmperorSahlertz]

Strongest that we fight that is. Also no one has been able to defeat him in nightmare difficulty without a mage in the party. Deal with it please, your warrior(s) are always backed by Wynne, Anders, Bethany etc... Without them you are nothing. Unless you play easy then good for you.

I solo'ed him on a warrior... Soooo.... There is that I suppose...

[Lulupab]

I have

Video, and I meant to say the whole DLC but it'll still do. I want to see you sweat in opposed to me laughing at you while having Anders in the party. The point is he is making the difference, not your warrior.

[MisterJB]

Lolol? 

Ancient Magister with magic enhanced due to the Taint.

The only ones who could possibly contend with him are the PCs and Flemeth or the Architect.

[Lulupab]

I solo'ed him on a warrior... Soooo.... There is that I suppose...

Video or didn't happen. Nihtmare solo

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Strongest that we fight that is. Also no one has been able to defeat him in nightmare difficulty without a mage in the party. Deal with it please, your warrior(s) are always backed by Wynne, Anders, Bethany etc... Without them you are nothing. Unless you play easy then good for you.

I've beaten both games on Nightmare without mages in the party(not counting the times we have to like Wynne in Broken Circle). 

[Master Warder Z_]

The existence of the Night Elves alone disproves this line of thought.

 

A Single Contingent in a single instance from a rebel army that made use of everything and everyone and that doesn't even exist anymore disproves what exactly?

 

 

Still in its weakest state in all of its history it was not fallen. I hate to break it to you but your precious Orlais cannot even deal with Ferelden as of now Ferelden holds Orlais' lands, rightfully conquered.

 

You mean Fereldan it self, Once the War became unpopular and too expensive back in Orlais?

 

I mean that's amusing to me, You are comparing a crumbling backwater to the single greatest nation in Thedas. Tevinter hasn't fallen it is true, but it isn't at the apex of it's power, and that isn't coming back in the forseeable future, it was an Empire when the world was filled with roaming nomads and Barbarian tribes, It possessed armies and magic when such things weren't even thought of upon the battlefield, it has the citation of being the first nation of the known and it is by that merit it succeeded, However offer organized resistance and it seems to be a different story.

 

When the Barbarians united, they obliterated the Tevinter Armies, Their own subjects revolted and torn down their Imperium, The Barbarian Horde made it to the gates of the capital, The War ended and Thedas as a result was formed, but think on that.

 

The greatest Empire in the known world, came crashing down largely to men armed with swords, spears and metal.

[LobselVith8]

In regards to having a mage as an advisor - while I do like the idea, I think the three pillars of the Inquisition do make sense as they are, and I'm going to echo other posters in this thread and say that I believe Morrigan will be our unofficial consultant for all things magic-related, a far as non-companions go.  Also, it is possible Dagna will be around, so maybe she can advise us in a scholastic capacity.  And, we have three mages as companions - each with their area of expertise.  And personally, I think they do us a lot more good on the field - where they can actually see the things we're dealing with and actually physically aid us.

 

It will be nice to see Dagna again; she was a really nice character.

 

And, to those of you disappointed in the pro-Chantry/Andrastian slant of the Inquisition's leaders - well, the Inquisition itself is an organization conceptualized and put together by the Chantry. For those players who are pro-mage/anti-Chantry, and wish to play characters that are as well, well - yes, the Chantry-lovers lead the organization, but - YOU are the one with the power.  And YOU are the one in control.  No, you can't dismiss your advisors, but remember they serve you.  And what better way to subvert the Chantry and all its ideals than to have a non-Andrastian be the one to save the world, making it clear all the while that they do not believe their so-called 'gift' had anything to do with the Maker? Bonus points if you play a mage, in my opinion.

 

The rather high Andrastian composition of the organization does make it a bit lonely, however. It's not like there's someone who understands Dalish culture, or truly living a life outside the Qun; hopefully, Varric can be a confidant and friend to a Dwarven protagonist.

[MisterJB]

Video, and I meant to say the whole DLC but it'll still do. I want to see you sweat in opposed to me laughing at you while having Anders in the party. The point is he is making the difference, not your warrior.

Yeah, sure. Send Anders in without a Warrior to divert attacks and see how long he lasts.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The rather high Andrastian composition of the organization does make it a bit lonely, however. It's not like there's someone who understands Dalish culture, or truly living a life outside the Qun; hopefully, Varric can be a confidant and friend to a Dwarven protagonist.

Um, I believe Solas has conversed with the Dalish in the past. 

[Master Warder Z_]

I've beaten both games on Nightmare without mages in the party(not counting the times we have to like Wynne in Broken Circle). 

 

Same, It wasn't all that fun, but pultices work as well as magic back in DAO.

 

Stupid DA2 having a cooldown timer on potions.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Video, and I meant to say the whole DLC but it'll still do. I want to see you sweat in opposed to me laughing at you while having Anders in the party. The point is he is making the difference, not your warrior.

You understand how incredibly easy it is, right? The game itself is broken, since you can make your warrior tank practically immune to all magical damage, meaning Cory can't do anything. So even without a mage in the party you can beat him easily.

[KainD]

Ancient Magister with magic enhanced due to the Taint.

 

Pls, he fell to Hawke and a bunch of other sub-par combatants.. 

The fact that he is a magister doesn't mean that he is good, there are many, many magisters out there. The fact that he is ancient means nothing at all, for all we know magic has improved since then through trial and error, and he was in stasis. 

[Master Warder Z_]

I'd bet no mage could create as shield capable of stopping Vigilance.

 

 

Shiny! @_@

[Lulupab]

The greatest Empire in the known world, came crashing down largely to men armed with swords, spears and metal and the taint, mostly the taint because their farmlands were no more either taken by the blight or whatever and other disasters of blight that made tevinter to not be able to fight back.

I completed the sentence for you. Even now if whole nations combine power but don't use mages they cannot win, one thing is certain that they will never capture minrathous yet again.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Same, It wasn't all that fun, but pultices work as well as magic back in DAO.

 

Stupid DA2 having a cooldown timer on potions.

That is why you went for Templar and Reaver spec so that your tank was basically an immortal god on the battlefield.

[TK514]

Pls, he fell to Hawke and a bunch of other sub-par combatants.. 

The fact that he is a magister doesn't mean that he is good, there are many, many magisters out there. The fact that he is ancient means nothing at all, for all we know magic has improved since then through trial and error, and he was in stasis. 

 

I don't know.  Being one of ten people who physically visited the Black City?  I suspect he's more than your garden variety mage to have made that trip.

[KainD]

I don't know.  Being one of ten people who physically visited the Black City?  I suspect he's more than your garden variety mage to have made that trip.

 

He is not weak, but saying that he is the strongest mage is ridiculous.

[LobselVith8]

Um, I believe Solas has conversed with the Dalish in the past. 

 

We really don't know to what extend Solas' knowledge pertains to, whether he's even familiar with the culture or beliefs of the clans, and he seems to have drastically different views from city elves and Dalish. If a Dalish protagonist is looking for someone who can honestly relate to his views or his life, there's no one; there's no one for the Vashoth who understands what it's like to be a qunari who doesn't adhere to the Qun, as the only other qunari is simply pretending to be Tal-Vashoth. It seems fairly lonely for a Dalish and Vashoth so far, in comparison to how many Andrastian humans a human noble protagonist can turn to who will understand their culture, religion, and views.

[lyin321]

I don't know.  Being one of ten people who physically visited the Black City?  I suspect he's more than your garden variety mage to have made that trip.

 

...or that he had alot of money and begged the other mages to take him on the journey:)

[MisterJB]

Pls, he fell to Hawke and a bunch of other sub-par combatants.. 

The fact that he is a magister doesn't mean that he is good, there are many, many magisters out there. The fact that he is ancient means nothing at all, for all we know magic has improved since then through trial and error, and he was in stasis. 

In Tevinter, unless you have mastered things like blood magic, you won't survive. Another mage will kill you and take your place. And Corypheus not only became a Magister, he was important enough to be one of the five that physically walked in the Fade.

Also, most evidence points to magic having gotten weaker since the ancient times; Tevinter burying the whole Arlathan, for instance, is not something that could be replicated today.

He even has abilities that mirror the Old Gods.

 

What mage could possibly compare to Corypheus that is not a PC?