Elke Trevelyan, updated to take into account the new background blurbs.
[Elke (elk-a) Trevelyan human] - [Warrior] - [late 20s] - [Female] - [Heterosexual]
1. Are they a practitioner of Andrastianism?
Of course.
1b. If religious, are they zealots, devout, spiritual, or do they only give lip service?
I consider myself devout. I'll say quiet prayers before major tasks, tithe regularly, and have great respect for the Chantry. The Real One. Not those Imperial weirdos. Regardless, I’ve known for some time that I’m destined for either the Chantry or the Templars, and I’m comfortable with that.
2. Are they pro-Circle?
Reluctantly, yes. My upbringing as an independent minded Free Marcher makes me rankle at punishing people if they haven't committed any crime, but I've studied history, and know what damage maleficar and blood mages can do, and even the nicest of mages can be consumed and become an abomination, or so the histories insist. The Circle granted stability for centuries, too, so it must be close to a good solution, and if only we can negotiate the balance correctly, maybe we can get this destructive war resolved.
2a. If so, are they pro-Templar?
I agree with the need for their order, and believe a charter correctly laid out would be a great benefit to society AND mages, but the Templars of Kirkwall triggered the needlessly destructive mage rebellion by their actions, and some of the templars passing through our lands recently have been a tad...paranoid. I have family in the Templars, though, so I know they are not all like that, and the order performs a useful and necessary service.
2b. Are they anti-Mage?
No. They were born with power, though, and power comes with responsibility. A rogue mage can cause great destruction to many innocent people. If the responsibility requires strict discipline and oversight during training, so be it, though those that have proven themselves should be welcome for their powerful aid, especially in healing.
2c. Do they support the Circle, but also more independence for mages?
Yes. Obviously the balance of power became destabilized, and some new accord has got to be reached to maintain stability and fairness.
3. Are they pro-Mage?
As far as the complete abolition of the Circle? No. As far as negotiating with people who were unfairly treated to find a fair agreement that balances mage dignity as people with public safety? Yes.
3a. Are they anti-Templar?
No, though I blame the current war on their over-zealousness of a few in completing their task. Surely hunting down blood mages, maleficars, and abominations could keep the templars suitably occupied? That’s what I hope to focus on, anyway. IF I chose to become a templar, of course.
3b. Do they support Apostates, Maleficar, and/or Blood Mages?
Blood mages and maleficar are as bad as abominations as far as I'm concerned, and need to be hunted down.
Apostates? Well, I believe it is theoretically possible to become a decent mage without Circle training, I guess. After all, the Dalish clan that comes through sometimes has a mage who doesn't seem to have become a whacko fireball wielding abomination, but who knows what might trigger them being possessed? In practice, I keep an eye on any I know of for any signs of...well, demonic weirdness, but hunting them down when they aren't bothering anyone RIGHT NOW is a waste of our resources. Uh...don't tell my family in the templars about that, though, alright? I’m not sure they would understand. I wonder if I would have to do something about the ones I already know about if I enter the order. Probably. Maybe I SHOULD take vows then.
3c. Do they support Tevinter style rule?
Maker's Breath no! Those people are crazy, and just asking to call something just as bad as the Blights down on everyone's heads.
4. What is their opinion of:
4a. Nobility
Nobility should be leaders, not rulers. The nobility get wealth and power, yes, but this comes with a responsibility to those they have power over. As a practical matter, my family must protect those on our lands, giving leadership in crisis and maintaining stability so the Free Marchers who farm and trade can do so peacefully and prosperously. I help oversee farming land along the inland from the coasts, and I spend a lot of time out our Ostwick house.
4b. The Poor
I would not consider the average Free Marcher on our lands to be poor - they might have less wealth than we, but if they work to have a roof over their heads and food on the table they are dignified freeman. The truly poor who have fallen onto bad times due to situations beyond their control should be cared for until they can get back on their feet (an attitude, I admit, that was sorely tested when Fereldans fleeing the Blight poured into the Free Marches). Other poor are likely troublemakers of some sort, however - pirates, brigands, or otherwise lawless wastrels. They should be watched to avoid trouble.
5. What is their opinion of:
5a. The Qunari Faith
I understand the value of self-sacrifice, but they just seem to twist it into something monstrous. They also invaded my home town in the past – it’s why we have those walls, you know – so I don’t quite trust them not to try to take over by force of arms again.
5b. Imperial Andrastianism
Dangerous heretics.
5c. The Old Gods
The Blights. Enough said.
5d. The Dalish Faith
No Dalish wanted to talk much of their faith to me. Well, it didn't really come up in negotiations. They do those weird tattoos on their face for religious reasons, though, don't they? I'm not sure what to make of it.
5f. Atheism
What? People who believe in...nothing? Maker's Breath, do those people exist? Really?
6. What is their opinion of:
6a. Dwarves
I've negotiated with many surface dwarves, and find them amiable and wily traders. I have great respect for them in this capacity. The caste system of the underground dwarves is only something I've read about in books. Strange customers. I'm sure the surface dwarves are happier up here. (She thinks she knows dwarves, and has a theoretical understanding the main dwarven society, but is liable to be shocked if she deals with some traditionally minded dwarves over the course of the game.)
6b. City Elves
Slavery is, and should be, an anathema to freemen. The free elves on our family's estates are like any other freemen, and have been for generations in many cases. Are the elves good farmers or business men who pay their taxes on time and don't go around causing havoc? Then they're welcome. I haven’t been to the alienage in Ostwick, but they seem to keep to themselves, and I suppose good fences make good neighbors. (She'll likely change her tune if confronted by a companion - perhaps Sera - on the subject).
6c. Dalish Elves
A headache. Oh, I've read about their tragic history and all, but when the local clan of Dalish elves come through our lands, I have to spend the entire time intervening between them and the people whose fallow field they camped on, or whose favorite hunting spot they've chased game away from, or some other petty squabble. If I had a gold piece for every time I've had to prove the Dalish clan didn't REALLY curse someone's livestock, I could build a third wall around Ostwick. However, I have no problem with them as trade partners - they have some highly useful and imminently practical things to trade for. If only I could negotiate someplace for them to SETTLE in, it would make things so much easier. However, my attempts to convince them of the sensibility of this plan proved futile, and once the mage war started, their arguments for staying mobile made more sense, so I stopped trying.
6d. Humans
Most of the people I know. Lots of different types of humans: good and bad; heroic and villainous. Where they're from and what they believe is as important things to know as anything else. What more is there to say?
6e. (the) Kossith
Who? Are they Qunari? Because the Qunari have a historical tendency to try to take over the Free Marches when they get the chance.
Otherwise, whatever they are - are they causing trouble? No? Making themselves useful? Yes? Then they're not a problem, are they?
7. What is their opinion of:
7a. Orlais
Pompous and frivolous, masters of political intrigue, but with an unsavory tendency to try to invade their neighbors - and the ability to pull it off. It is the home of the Divine, though, so hopefully they're not...too bad.
7b. Ferelden
Ah, an imminently practical and independent people. They not only threw off imperial rule by Orlais, but within another generation put down a Blight on their doorstep. What's not to like?
7c. Tevinter
Dangerous heretics. Their mages rule with little real oversight, slavery is common, and it's widely known that the nobility flaunt the Chant and practice blood magic. They also historically ruled the Free Marches, and probably feel they still should. Nice architecture, though.
8. Are they idealistic or pragmatic?
Ideals are how you keep from falling too far from goodness, but day to day decisions often cannot reach those levels of perfection. That's fine though - strive to be better, but never let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
8a. Do the ends always justify the means?
A dangerous attitude. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils, but never forget it’s an evil you're doing, regardless how good the ends might seem. Start justifying too much, and you'll find you've done a lot of evil, and never quite made it to that good you wanted to reach.
8b. Do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?
Sometimes, unfortunately, but a good negotiator can come to a better settlement that THAT, surely.
8c. Would they sacrifice themselves for others?
If necessary, but you'd better believe all other avenues have been investigated first.
9. What alignment are they?
(LG, at least at the start. She's big into stability being the way to make sure everyone has the ability to live a peaceful and prosperous life. She might drift over to NG during the course of the game, though.)
10. How do they view their role as the Inquisitor?
Well, I’ve trained in swordplay, as I have family in the Templars and they’ve wanted me to choose their order over taking vows. I’ve since used this training to help with some bandit and pirate issues in the area. Since the mage war started, they’ve been busy and the bandits have been lying low, so I've been stuck behind the walls doing paperwork. The time is coming quickly when I will need to enter the Chantry or the Templars. An Inquisitor, though? That seems unlikely, don’t you think?
(After the events in the start of the game – “I'll do what I can to get things under control. The glowing hand thing: Maker, that can't be healthy.”)
11. Are they dutiful, or lazy?
Very dutiful. Or I try to be.
12. Are they intelligent?
I'd like to think so, though I'm not above playing the country bumpkin if it is useful.
12a. Are they socially intelligent, and gifted at reading people?
Yes, at least, it's a skill I've taken great pains to develop. I haven't had a lot of exposure to the Great Game as played in Orlais, however, but I doubt I’ll need to play against true master of the craft.
12b. Are they academically intelligent, and widely versed?
I grew up reading from the offerings of my family's library, mostly focusing on various practical matters like agricultural practice and book keeping. Once it became clear that I would not be needed to…carry on the family line, I continued my studies in religious theory and history.
12c. Are they wise, and do they possesses common sense?
I'm no philosopher, but I like to think that I'm good at applying common sense to come up with solutions to problems.
12d. Are they adaptable, or unable to cope with sudden change?
Stability is paramount, but maintaining stability is a constant struggle. Sometimes the arrangement that gave stability last week is completely unworkable next week. Understanding this this is vital to the re-acquisition of true peace and order. Trying to enforce the old unworkable stuff? Just makes things worse down the road. However, if it has become unworkable again the week after you put in a fix, then you’re doing something wrong.
12e. Are they skilled artistically?
Maker, no. Well, I like to sing, but I'm careful to do it only when no one is around, because no one should be subjected to THAT.
13. Are they funny, or serious?
I enjoy a good joke, and humor is great for putting everyone at ease. When I get down to negotiating, though, anyone that mistakes this humor for lack of seriousness learns the error of their ways, likely at a 10% profit for my side. Hmmm…I doubt I’ll have much use of that in the Chantry, but you never know.
13a. Is humor a defense mechanism?
A shield is a defense mechanism. No, humor is an OFFENSIVE mechanism. Humor is fun...and a decent weapon for putting people off guard.
13b. Do they try to be funny, and fail at it?
I work at it. Unless it is useful to put people off guard by seeming awkward, then I'll work on being bad at it.
14. Are they a romantic, or do they fear commitment?
I know this is impractical, but I’ve always dreamed of finding the right man and running away with him. You know, my elder siblings safely married off, so I don’t have to worry about political arrangements or responsibility to the family line. Of course, there would be the scandal of choosing to marry rather than enter the order or the church, but we would love each other, and that’s all that would matter. I know. Rubbish. I first heard the idea while taking religious instruction, believe it or not, from an affirmed who kept putting off taking vows in hopes that her prince would appear. That never happened, for her or for me, and I’m out of time. Ah, well. Best think of more practical matters, anyway.
15. Did they, or do they love their family?
Absolutely.
Aralan, my Dalish rogue, slightly updated from before:
[Aralan Lavellan] - [Rogue] - [20s?] - [Male] - [Heterosexual]
1. Are they a practitioner of Andrastianism?
No
1a. If not, then what do they practice, if anything?
I follow the Creators.
1b. If religious, are they zealots, devout, spiritual, or do they only give lip service?
Andruil guides my steps and steadies my bow. I try to follow the Vir Tanadahl with every breath. What do you call it?
2. Are they pro-Circle?
Those gifted in magic should train in it, otherwise they waste their potential. Forcing them to leave their families forever and lock themselves away is wrong, however.
2a. If so, are they pro-Templar?
As long as these warriors do not approach the Keeper or anyone else in my clan, I don't feel strongly about them. They are supposed to stop people from misusing magic, but they seem to have added much to their tasks.
2b. Are they anti-Mage?
Be against healing and enchantments? Against our Keeper? Are you mad?
2c. Do they support the Circle, but also more independence for mages?
Irrelevant to my duties. Will it stop the war that endangers my people? Then fine.
3. Are they pro-Mage?
Again. Mages are gifted by the Creators. They should train their talents.
3a. Are they anti-Templar?
If they stay clear, we can co-exist. Perhaps they would be more welcome if they truly only hunted abominations.
3b. Do they support Apostates, Maleficar, and/or Blood Mages?
Our Keeper is our heart; he protects us from the Dread Wolf and carries our history. Others with magical abilities should find a Keeper to train them, if they can. The shems? Well, surely they can find trusted elders who know of magic as well.
If they choose to misuse their gifts they must be stopped, as someone misusing their skill with a sword must be stopped. Blood magic is a dangerous path, and should not be tread lightly.
3c. Do they support Tevinter style rule?
The people who tried to wipe out my people twice? No.
4. What is their opinion of:
4a. Nobility
Leaders who gain their place purely by who their parents were rather than proving their skills are fools. So are the people who allow it to happen.
4b. The Poor
If they are injured or cannot care for themselves, then their family, friends, and neighbors should care for them. If they are trapped and cannot escape, they should be set free. If they are free and uninjured, they should be earning their way and helping others as they can.
5. What is their opinion of:
5a. The Qunari Faith
I don't know the faith well, but it seems to drive them to conquer, which is unwelcome.
5b. Imperial Andrastianism
Tevinters. *snort* Slavers. They are also the reason the shem fear magic so.
5c. The Old Gods
It seems unlikely they were any sort of gods to me. Do gods succumb to the Taint or get slain by mortals? No.
5d. The Dalish Faith
It is a truth that many have forgotten.
5f. Atheism
*shrugs*
6. What is their opinion of:
6a. Dwarves
I worry my people travel their road. No, not the Deep Roads. I mean in a more figurative sense. Isolated and in decline.
6b. City Elves
Their ancestors were cowards, but that was long ago. No doubt some are cowards still, but mostly they are trapped. Physically. Mentally. They should be set free both ways, though surely I do not have that power.
6c. Dalish Elves
Why do you ask me such questions? *looks around hesitantly* Very well. We are not in a good position as we are. We struggle to find any of the old ways, live without a homeland, and see all hands turned against us. We must find a way to regain what was lost, but we cannot pretend we can push back time. Whatever caused our peoples' fall in ancient times, it seems to me our desire to ignore the rest of the world, especially during a Blight, is why all hands turned against us the second time. We were militarily strong, for how else could we have marched through Orlais as we did? But we cannot hope to fight the whole world at once. My people marched with the human leader Andraste against Tevinter, and though the shems may have twisted her teachings in modern times, if we can cooperate with the founder of their religion, surely we could find some common ground were we to build our own country. At the very least, some place where we can be free to believe as we please and rebuild our civilization. We might find a place where we may create binds of trade and such so that some will see that it hurts themselves to attack us. Hold fast to the old ways, but not live in the past. If only we could...bah...foolish dreaming. Forget it. We are what we are, and reality what it is.
6d. Humans
They are all over the place, are they not? Their desire to spread themselves across the land seems the only thing that remains the same from shem to shem.
6e. (the) Kossith
I find it difficult to separate them from the Qun they brought with them.
7. What is their opinion of:
7a. Orlais
Pompous fools and poor neighbors.
7b. Ferelden
I have never been there.
7c. Tevinter
When they do not enslave the body, they use blood magic to enslave the spirit.
8. Are they idealistic or pragmatic?
What does that mean? I live by the Vir Tanadahl, but most of my time is best used taking care of the here and now.
8a. Do the ends always justify the means?
Always is foolish. Sometimes is necessary.
8b. Do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?
Well, I would say yes, but I dislike the results if the 'many' shemlen decided what they need weighed against the needs of the few Dalish, so I suppose it depends.
8c. Would they sacrifice themselves for others?
For the good of my clan, yes.
9. What alignment are they?
(I would suggest he is NG.)
10. How do they view their role as the Inquisitor?
(At first he's going to be reluctant - only willing because of the risk to his people. If it occurs to him that he might give his people a safe harbor, his resignation at the fate of the Dalish will melt, and he will become very enthusiastic.)
11. Are they dutiful, or lazy?
Dutiful, of course. Who would claim themselves as lazy?
12. Are they intelligent?
What kind of question...fine. Average, I suppose.
12a. Are they socially intelligent, and gifted at reading people?
I can tell from body language when someone is about to attack, and from what direction. If I point my bow at annoying people, they stop bothering me. At least, it has always worked before.
12b. Are they academically intelligent, and widely versed?
Of course. I have learned all of the Keeper's stories, and can recite them in my sleep. Yes, I DO know how to read as well. What are you implying?
12c. Are they wise, and do they possesses common sense?
Wisdom comes with age, but I have enough common sense to keep myself alive.
12d. Are they adaptable, or unable to cope with sudden change?
Vir Bor'assan - "Bend but never break."
12e. Are they skilled artistically?
I have carved my own bow. Do you see the engraving? All by my hand. The fletching of every arrow is art.
13. Are they funny, or serious?
Is that supposed to be a joke? Fine. I can laugh at jokes...IF they are funny.
13a. Is humor a defense mechanism?
I just shoot people if I need to defend myself.
13b. Do they try to be funny, and fail at it?
Are you certain this line of questioning is not a joke?
14. Are they a romantic, or do they fear commitment?
I don't FEAR anything. My hopes are that the woman I eventually marry does not have high hopes for romantic gestures, however.
15. Did they, or do they love their family?
They are my life.
Sasani, my human mage - newly minted, highly updated from my original ideas based on the new blurbs:
[Sasani Trevelyan] - [Mage] - [20s?] - [Female] - [Heterosexual]
1. Are they a practitioner of Andrastianism?
I suppose. My family taught me to believe, and I had…have many relatives in the Chantry, but I haven’t seen them in a long time and over the years, I’ve come to wonder about its wisdom.
1b. If religious, are they zealots, devout, spiritual, or do they only give lip service?
I believe…I believe…something.
2. Are they pro-Circle?
The Circle gave me a safe, quiet place to learn. I rather liked staying in the library. The morning sun came in the stained glass window just so, and I could tell the time by what color of light was hitting the chair I preferred. I know many did not feel the same. Many others have died for this.
2a. If so, are they pro-Templar?
My uncle was a Templar. I know many mages have little but frightening interactions with them, but it was my uncle who took me the Circle. He let me ride before him in the saddle when we left home, and told me how much the Circle would help make sure I would never accidentally harm anyone. He held me when they took the blood for my phylactery, and told me I was such a brave girl for not crying. I wish he had stayed as a Circle guard. Perhaps things would have been different if he had. The Templars assigned as guards at the Circle were not…all as sympathetic.
2b. Are they anti-Mage?
No. I’m not sure what else I believe, perhaps, but I do believe that magic is the Maker’s gift.
2c. Do they support the Circle, but also more independence for mages?
I would have liked to visit my family more. I would like to have more Templars like my uncle.
3. Are they pro-Mage?
Yes.
3a. Are they anti-Templar?
Many individuals cannot handle the responsibility and power the Templars wield. Others can. After the…events that led to the deaths…after that…. I’m sorry. After those events, we were all condemned to death. Even after I put myself between blood magic fueled flames and an injured Templar, I was still condemned. Of course, the Templar I saved risked all to warn me in time to flee. Any I’ve met sent then have sought my death, never wondering what might crimes are, or whether I committed any at all. That does not inspire trust or confidence.
3b. Do they support Apostates, Maleficar, and/or Blood Mages?
I had a friend in the Circle who truly wished nothing more than to marry a farmer or merchant and raise a gaggle of children. Her power was slow to manifest and with but a little training to resist demonic influence, I think she would have been best served outside the Circle – and apostate, technically. She never got that chance.
She never got that chance because a blood mage – the man she decided was worth risking everything to escape with - killed her with a blood magic spell when they were cornered and he became desperate. I don’t know if he meant to. I like to think not. In the end, though, does it matter what he MEANT to do?
3c. Do they support Tevinter style rule?
No. I’ve read the histories as well as current political treatises, and believe they are part of the problem. I would have loved to stay with my family and have them be proud of me instead of being an embarrassment.
4. What is their opinion of:
4a. Nobility
It’s much like being a mage, I think. Great good or evil can come depending on the temperament of those born into power.
4b. The Poor
Ideally, those born with power should use it tell aid those without.
5. What is their opinion of:
5a. The Qunari Faith
I’ve read much of it. A fascinating belief system, though it proves there are worse systems than the Circle.
5b. Imperial Andrastianism
I’ve studied them thoroughly. I prefer many of their beliefs in theory, but in practice it seems to be pushing things to the other extreme – the extreme that caused Andraste to rise against them in the first place.
5c. The Old Gods
I’ve read many fascinating and conflicting theories on whoever these beings once were. The Blights are terrible, of course, but they are still amazing creatures, whatever they are or were.
5d. The Dalish Faith
Much of it is lost, and there are few books on the subject – and none survive from original sources. The bits and pieces I’ve read are interesting. I would love to sit with a Dalish and discuss their beliefs in detail.
5f. Atheism
My theology readings covered this, though only obliquely – the Circle is supported by the Chantry, after all. Several in the Circle were quietly agnostics or atheists, though the ones who were moved to speak to me about it seemed uninterested in much debate on the subject.
6. What is their opinion of:
6a. Dwarves
A fascinating people. The Deep Roads were a marvel of engineering. So much of their lore, such as the art of golem making, are lost to their brave stand against the darkspawn. Truly a tragedy.
6b. City Elves
There were some elves in the Circle. They were not certain if life under the eyes of the Templars was better or worse than the alienage they came from. That…gives me pause.
6c. Dalish Elves
I sometimes believe I would love to relearn the lore of the ancient elves as much as the Dalish. It would be a great joy to sit with them and record what they know and believe. I wonder if they would.
6d. Humans
Most of my studies of history, theology, and medicine focus on humans.
6e. (the) Kossith
Ah, the ancient word for the horned people who follow the Qun. Mostly follow it, I suppose. I haven’t met one.
7. What is their opinion of:
7a. Orlais
The Orlesians are people with a fascinating history and have very complicated political machinations. You wouldn’t believe the historic levels of backstabbing and manipulations involved. I read several books purported to be diaries of this or that noble family or retired bard. Did you know the Divine’s Left Hand is rumored to have been an Orlesian bard and spy at one time? Isn’t that fascinating?
7b. Ferelden
It is a country with a fractious history, unified mainly through physical force. It was the southernmost reach of the ancient Tevinter Empire. Their histories describe the Fereldens as barbarians, but that was long ago. Andraste was from that area. More recently, they stopped a Blight faster than any recorded before.
7c. Tevinter
It is an ancient realm. It was once the most powerful empire in Thedas, completely surround the Waking Sea. Their abuses triggered…much that is wrong with the world today.
8. Are they idealistic or pragmatic?
My ideal would have been to be left alone with my studies. That’s not going to happen anymore.
8a. Do the ends always justify the means?
No.
8b. Do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?
…No.
8c. Would they sacrifice themselves for others?
I….yes. I tried before. It seems strange to say that I failed to succeed at sacrificing myself, but I did.
9. What alignment are they?
NG
10. How do they view their role as the Inquisitor?
I’m not a leader! Why was I chosen for this? What could the Maker possibly be thinking?!
11. Are they dutiful, or lazy?
I will do what I must. I prefer to do what I enjoy, as all people do, I think.
12. Are they intelligent?
Yes.
12a. Are they socially intelligent, and gifted at reading people?
No. I read books. I read many books about people. People themselves are much more difficult to read.
12b. Are they academically intelligent, and widely versed?
Yes.
12c. Are they wise, and do they possesses common sense?
I…could do with more wisdom. My choices have not been the best of late.
12d. Are they adaptable, or unable to cope with sudden change?
My life has fallen apart. I am dealing with it as best as I can, but I never would have asked for all of this. I wish it would stop.
12e. Are they skilled artistically?
Does calligraphy count? What about the brewing of potions. Ah, I suppose that is more of a craft.
13. Are they funny, or serious?
I…I sometimes get a laugh through intentional understatement. I sometimes get laughs unintentionally. Mostly those are people laughing at me rather than with me, which is unpleasant.
13a. Is humor a defense mechanism?
No. I can see where that mechanism could be useful, but I suspect it requires more spontaneity than I have, however.
13b. Do they try to be funny, and fail at it?
I try not to try unless I very much trust the people I’m with. Then, when they laugh, it is more likely they’re laughing with me, even when I mess up the punch line.
14. Are they a romantic, or do they fear commitment?
I haven’t had a lot of luck in this area. I’d rather not talk about it.
15. Did they, or do they love their family?
I loved them once. It has been a long time. I still have fond memories of my uncle. I part of me wishes they had fought harder to keep me, though…I know it would have been futile.





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