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Not sure what didn't work. I'm running a build that has a lot of mods, of course, and I'm pretty sure something conflicts, but I'm not sure what. I'll do further testing to try and find-out by myself, but I'm going to first refer here to see if anyone has any idea what might conflict.

 

First, the bug: right before attacking the Cronos station, Shep and Liara are speaking in the former's cabin. Shep tells Liara to stay and it eventually fades to black... and stays black. Second try on this scene, it stays black and the music keeps on playing this time.

 

After that, I ran my backups with MEHEM 0.4 installed and it's back to normal, scene proceeds as planned.

 

Mods installed

 

MEHEM 0.4

 

Getorex:

Ashley-Face-Body-Makeover-Fullv8

Liara-Body-Armor-Complete72214

Taynor-Femshep-Rom-Mod-Complete

Traynor-Femshep-Rom-Textures

Miranda-Makeover-Textures-TPF

Miranda-New-Uniform-CitadelDLC

Miranda-New-Uniform-Full-noDLC

Tali-Full-Makeover-Complete-73114

 

Horography:

Buff FemShep Tank Top

 

ELE08:

A More Modest Diana Allers

ME3 Character Texture Overhaul

 

Ottemis:

EDI Alt Outfit Pack-238-1-0

EDI Default Outfit Basegame pack-208-1-0

EDI From Ashes Outfit Pack-273-1-0

HR Alliance Cruiser-276-1-0

HR Combat Fatigues for Texmod-141-1-0

ME3 HR Alliance Blues for Texmod-79-1-0

ME3 HR Armor Sets Pack-134-1-1

ME3 HR M3 Predator-85-1-1

ME3 HR N7 Valiant-85-1-1

ME3 HR Science Uniforms for Texmod-161-1-1

ME3_M6-Carnifex_Ottemis

ME3_M8_Avenger_Ottemis

ME3_Hoodie_N7_Redpocket_Ottemis

HR Kai Leng-276-1-0

HR Normandy-276-1-0

 

Smartek -> Converted by Karlitos

Javik Default Armor-64-1-0

 

Smartek:

1 aVega Informal + Arms Skin HR v1.4 OPTIMIZED 2

2 ardat yakshi sisters suit hd v2 OPTIMIZED 2

2 Garrus Default Armor HR 4096 v1.2 OPTIMIZED 2

2 lesuss bomb hd OPTIMIZED 2

2 Udina Default Suit HR 2048 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

2. Units of Cerberus 1 + Atlas HR v1.2 OPTIMIZED 2

Academy. Structural materials for levels HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Anderson Battle Suit HR 4096 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Asari Banshee reaper HD v2 OPTIMIZED 2

Asari NPC Skin

Benning. Structural Materials HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

cannibal reaper HD v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Citadel - The Return HR S.M. v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Citadel Sky HR 4096 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Cronos Station. S.M. HR 2048 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Default Salarian Tunic HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Destroyer Reaper HD v1 OPTIMIZED 2

Display Receptionist of The Citadel HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Doors Hologram v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Earth London. Structural Materials HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Eva. Krogan Female HR 4096 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

HR lines Asari Counselor and female people. v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Illusive Man Default Suit HR 4096 v1.2 OPTIMIZED 2

Jack OPTIMIZED 2 +Human skin

Kodiak Interior - Exterior HR 4096 v1.2 OPTIMIZED 2

Kolyat Krios OPTIMIZED 2 FORMAT

Lesuss 1. Structural Materials HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

ME3 HD eyes

ME3 Reckoning Armor HR 4096 OPTIMIZED 2 v0.1

Menu Background 2 ME3 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Noveria and Gellix. Structural Materials (with Scientists Suits) HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Quarians Suits Male and Female HR 4096 + Blood (incl. Extended Cut) v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Rachni Queen OPTIMIZED 2 v6 Fixed

Rachni soldier reaper OPTIMIZED 2

Rannoch geth capsules and ground textures HD OPTIMIZED 2

Reaper Brute HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Samara Skin

Ships of the Reapers HR 4096 v1.3 OPTIMIZED 2

Stars in High Resolution 2048.

Sur'Kesh Structural Materials HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Thane Krios OPTIMIZED 2 FORMAT

The Citadel HR v1.4 OPTIMIZED 2

Thessia. Structural Materials HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

tuchanka main krogans hd OPTIMIZED 2

Tuchanka. Structural Materials HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Turian Soldiers Armors HR 2048 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Utukku. Structural Materials Reapers + Eggs HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Vancouver and Horizon. Structural Materials HR v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Vega Default Armor HR 4096 v1.2 OPTIMIZED 2

Vindicator_Retex_HR_v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Weapon Blood Pack Punisher HR2048 v1.0

Weapon Cerberus Harrier HR 2048 Silver Edition v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Weapon Geth Plasma Shotgun HR OPTIMIZED 2

Weapon Graal Spike - Skull Edition HR 2048 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Weapon M-27 HR 2048 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Weapon M-92 Mantis HR 2048 v1.3 OPTIMIZED 2

Weapon M98_Black Widow HR2048 v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Weapon M-99 Saber v1.0 OPTIMIZED 2

Weapon Shuriken HR by TheDarkFalcon  OPTIMIZED 2

Weapond M-7 Lancer HR 2048 OPTIMIZED 2

Weapond Scorpionv12

Wrex - Wreav Default Armor HR 4096 v1.2 OPTIMIZED 2

 

All above mods installed with current version of ME3 explorer and previous version, for most of them. Did not use texmod, for fear of having game breaking problem with MEHEM, which has already happened to me on a last playthrough, which basically screwed the legend.sav, preventing me to make a new game... To be sure, for now, I'll finish with Vanilla + MEHEM 0.4 only to be sure my legend save is not screwed, and I can import to a new game +

 

Edit: I forgot, but I have this mod installed too: moho25 Better Cabin Music

 

Oh, and another thing: do one of you guys/girls have a build for ME 3, with MEHEM and other content mods like thaneMOD and/or Harbringer and a **** load of textures/mesh mods, a build that's actually tested and does work with no incompatibility? If you do, please tell me what it-is, because I may reverse to this, so I do not have to be subject to hours of testing :D



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Is your Shepard female or male?



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Heya,

 

From the sounds of it, this seems very familiar...thanks for the comprehensive list of mods, but I do believe we can narrow things down quite a bit as to which may cause this:

 

Not sure what didn't work. I'm running a build that has a lot of mods, of course, and I'm pretty sure something conflicts, but I'm not sure what. I'll do further testing to try and find-out by myself, but I'm going to first refer here to see if anyone has any idea what might conflict.

 

First, the bug: right before attacking the Cronos station, Shep and Liara are speaking in the former's cabin. Shep tells Liara to stay and it eventually fades to black... and stays black. Second try on this scene, it stays black and the music keeps on playing this time.

 

After that, I ran my backups with MEHEM 0.4 installed and it's back to normal, scene proceeds as planned.

 

Mods installed

 

MEHEM 0.4

 

Getorex:

Ashley-Face-Body-Makeover-Fullv8

Liara-Body-Armor-Complete72214

Taynor-Femshep-Rom-Mod-Complete

Traynor-Femshep-Rom-Textures

[...]

 

Horography:

Buff FemShep Tank Top

 

ELE08:

[...]

ME3 Character Texture Overhaul

 

Ottemis:

[...]

HR Combat Fatigues for Texmod-141-1-0

ME3 HR Alliance Blues for Texmod-79-1-0

[...]

ME3 HR Science Uniforms for Texmod-161-1-1

[...]

ME3_Hoodie_N7_Redpocket_Ottemis

[...]

HR Normandy-276-1-0

 

[...]

 

All above mods installed with current version of ME3 explorer and previous version, for most of them. Did not use texmod, for fear of having game breaking problem with MEHEM, which has already happened to me on a last playthrough, which basically screwed the legend.sav, preventing me to make a new game... To be sure, for now, I'll finish with Vanilla + MEHEM 0.4 only to be sure my legend save is not screwed, and I can import to a new game +

 

Edit: I forgot, but I have this mod installed too: moho25 Better Cabin Music

 

[...]

 

Just a question regarding the HD-Normandy textures: does that cover both the interior - meaning the various rooms, the cabin included - and exterior texture of the ship or just one of both?

 

I ran into a very similar issue with mesh- and texture-replacement of Williams as well as sound-replacements for the romance-scene of hers in place. For some reason, despite the fact that sound-replacement was done in the _LOC_INT.pcc, thus a different file than the "scene's" basic .pcc that deals with meshes, textures to be loaded etc. things would go wonky on my end. What I did to fix this was to put in place the original _LOC_INT.pcc and redo the sound-replacement, following which the scene worked. You can read about that here.

 

Could you check whether the cabin-music somehow edits one of the romance-culmination files for Liara? Or check whether other romance-culminations for Femshep suffer a similar problem? Elsewise, I'd try rolling back the Femshep romance-textures and see whether the scene works then.



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I quite literally had this problem only a few days ago. Version 5 of Getorex's Traynor-Femshep romance mod caused this one. Installed version 6 not that long ago, which seemed to fix the issue.

 

I hope that turns out to be the case for you as well.



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Sorry about my lack of answer, been busy with school.

Here we go.

@magentaman215 Female Shep

 

 

Just a question regarding the HD-Normandy textures: does that cover both the interior - meaning the various rooms, the cabin included - and exterior texture of the ship or just one of both?

Ottemis told me it was just for exterior.

 

 

I ran into a very similar issue with mesh- and texture-replacement of Williams as well as sound-replacements for the romance-scene of hers in place. For some reason, despite the fact that sound-replacement was done in the _LOC_INT.pcc, thus a different file than the "scene's" basic .pcc that deals with meshes, textures to be loaded etc. things would go wonky on my end. What I did to fix this was to put in place the original _LOC_INT.pcc and redo the sound-replacement, following which the scene worked. You can read about that here.

You think the Cabin music mod might be to blame? Maybe I'll try without, then ;)

 

 

Could you check whether the cabin-music somehow edits one of the romance-culmination files for Liara? Or check whether other romance-culminations for Femshep suffer a similar problem? Elsewise, I'd try rolling back the Femshep romance-textures and see whether the scene works then.

Not advanced enough to check the former. But for the latter, I'll check with Blad3Zer0's suggestion.

 

@Blad3Zer0: Did you install on top of previous version, reverted to backup then re-intall mods, or did some kind of advanced edits to make things compatible?



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Ouch, despite my best effort (running on vanilla plus MEHEM 0.4 only to finish), I'm unable to "Import ME3 Character" for a new game. Also of note: Anderson's suit was black, exclusively on the Citadel, that is it had no details at all. Same happened with Joker and another guy for the Memorial scene. Makes me feel likes something's broken. I'll try to revert to vanilla by using my secound set of backups, which I believe has seen no mods, and then re-install updates on them if applicable, and then MEHEM. ****, that's going to be even more long...



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@Blad3Zer0: Did you install on top of previous version, reverted to backup then re-intall mods, or did some kind of advanced edits to make things compatible?

 

Sorry for the delayed reply. I simply installed on top of the previous version.



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Okay, I'm done installing the game and its DLC's. I was able to finish the game with the crappy vanilla ending (chose the refuse ending, he he). I was able to import that to ME 3, but I want to install mods before starting a new game.

 

For now, I'm backing-up the Vanilla ME3 folder, so I can reset without downloading the whole crap again. Then I'll install MEHEM 0.4 and back-up the Coalsced.ini once.

 

I want to unlock every thing I have access on my Xbox version of the game. Mainly, I want the N7 weapons (Hurricane, Valiant, Crusader, Eagle), the casual outfit N7 Hoodie, the KEI-9 dog, the N7 Defender Armor and the N7Collector Alternate outfits for Ash, Kaiden, Liara and James. What's my best option and how can I ensure the fix is compatible with the mods in my list?



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Once you get setup, try the Liara body mod by itself without the Traynor mod also installed.  If that works, then add the Traynor-femshep mod and try again.  Of what I saw listed (a LOT of mods) the only ones of mine that affect that scene are the Ashley mod (non-applicable in this case and that mod definitely works on my system), the Liara mod, and the Traynor-Femshep mod if you are doing femshep, obviously.  MEHEM is irrelevant as is virtually all the HR texture mods you installed.  


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Doing backup of PCC's and TFC's. Also, doing a backup of DLC's. Should be over in a couple hour, but because of school, that means it will have to wait till tomorrow at best. I'll do as you say. Can you tell me what files will have to be replaced if it fails, for 1:Ash mod, 2: Liara mod and 3: Traynor mods. Is there another file that needs to be restored for the "reset" to work?

 

Also, I seem to have 2 mods for Traynor, should I install both of them (I think I do, because of the texture, but hey, you never know :P ).

 

And if anyone knows the answer to that one, please don't be shy :D : http://forum.bioware.../#entry17137033



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[...]

 

I want to unlock every thing I have access on my Xbox version of the game. Mainly, I want the N7 weapons (Hurricane, Valiant, Crusader, Eagle), the casual outfit N7 Hoodie, the KEI-9 dog, the N7 Defender Armor and the N7Collector Alternate outfits for Ash, Kaiden, Liara and James. What's my best option and how can I ensure the fix is compatible with the mods in my list?

 

"N7 Weapons" are fairly easy to unlock, to be had. Use Coalesced-editor to check their names, then add them through gibbed save-editor as shown here in sections 5.2 and 6.1-6.5 (6.1-6.5 is the ID-list of the individual weapons; N7-weapons follow the same naming-convention):

 

http://forum.bioware...ate-14-05-2012/

 

As for the other CE-goodies...there are ways to get those, and since you technically already got it fair and square for XBox 360 there's no harm done, as I see it.



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Okay, now it's getting on my nerves. I re-installed vanilla and when I went to install MEHEM 0.4, I got a message that I had a previous version of MEHEM installed (I'm starting from vanilla, so this strikes me as odd...) Still, I uninstalled to be able to proceed and install the mod. With Vanilla, I was able to import a save for a new game. However, with MEHEM, all I got was a black screen and no legend save was created. So I started from before the attack to the Illusive man's base and I did not get the black screen crash. However, I still can't import from ME3. Oddly enough, a LegendSave.pcsav was created this time, but I can't import. Any idea what could have went wrong?



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Okay, now it's getting on my nerves. I re-installed vanilla and when I went to install MEHEM 0.4, I got a message that I had a previous version of MEHEM installed (I'm starting from vanilla, so this strikes me as odd...) Still, I uninstalled to be able to proceed and install the mod. With Vanilla, I was able to import a save for a new game. However, with MEHEM, all I got was a black screen and no legend save was created. So I started from before the attack to the Illusive man's base and I did not get the black screen crash. However, I still can't import from ME3. Oddly enough, a LegendSave.pcsav was created this time, but I can't import. Any idea what could have went wrong?

 

Could you try this here with gibbed save-editor and see whether import works then...?

 

(Quoth myself from moddb:)

 

 

 

You can also try the following with me3 save editor - link to that here: Moddb.com

With that editor, select the career with which you ran MEHEM and select the "newgameplus.save". There go into the Raw-tab and set the end-game state to "Lived to fight again". Then, start up the game and the save should be available for import. Can confirm that this worked with MEHEM 0.4 on my end, at least.

 



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Ahem. Looks like it solved-it. Will keep you posted!



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Not sure what didn't work. I'm running a build that has a lot of mods, of course, and I'm pretty sure something conflicts, but I'm not sure what. I'll do further testing to try and find-out by myself, but I'm going to first refer here to see if anyone has any idea what might conflict.

 

First, the bug: right before attacking the Cronos station, Shep and Liara are speaking in the former's cabin. Shep tells Liara to stay and it eventually fades to black... and stays black. Second try on this scene, it stays black and the music keeps on playing this time.

 

 

The romance scene fades to black? Sounds like you're just getting the romance scene that Garrus and Talimancers got...



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Yeah, well, those scenes proceeds afterwards, whereas I was just stuck! But I think I'll be okay this time. We'll see, I guess.