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[Eveangaline]

Do we even know if that video showed us fighting real wardens or was it instead some bandit clan/red templars that are trying to frame wardens or took over one of their keeps and are making use of their armor because why waste resources?

[NUM13ER]

In DAO Duncan openly supports a strategy that actively threatens the survival of Ferelden. 

The Wardens are there only at the behest of the King and must play along if they wish that to remain the case. That very same King suggested waiting for reinforcements but Logain declined. Then spent the rest of the story sabotaging Ferelden in service of his own paranoia and idiocy. 
 

Riordan launches himself off a building to stop a dragon.

He gives his life wounding it badly enough to force it to the ground. You know, so the army can actually attack it. Desperate times, desperate measures after all.
 

Utha and other GWs openly conspire with the Architect, a being they should be doing everything in their power to stop. 

A handful next to the entire order. Not only that but it's up to you whether or not you kill him. If you don't other Wardens are furious and try hunting him down. Nearly every organisation in Thedas has groups of dissenters and radicals, this isn't exclusive to the GW.
 

In DA2 the GWs threaten Hawke's family to get Malcom to go along with their ploy and otherwise they tried to free Corypheus.

They aren't saints and Corypheus needed to be imprisoned. A d*** move of course, but a necessary evil in their minds. Their intention was the exact opposite of freeing him.
 

They're not heroes. Their proganda says they're heroes, but I'm sure that Tevinter propaganda paints them in a great light.

I think it's the whole stopping Blights and killing themselves in the process that gives them that heroic reputation. You know, when they save the world. Tevinter had a slave empire. Not the same at all.

[Nukekitten]

I think it's the whole stopping Blights and killing themselves in the process that gives them that heroic reputation. You know, when they save the world.

By the sound of it, hardly anyone in Thedas knows that they have to kill themselves in the process.

[Roninbarista]

I'd beat the taint outta the Wardens, like I plan on the red lyrium outta Red Templars.

I admire the Gray Wardens for what they do, but if they get in my way, they will be stopped, stomped, and thrashed all around Thedas.

[Conquerthecity]

If they've been corrupted and are doing something bad, then sure. I'm not really sentimental about the Wardens. 

[InfinitePaths]

Are people seriously asking wheater we'll make a decision in a game which isn't even out yet and we know nothing about the decision or of the circumstances surrounding the decision?

 

wow.

[TheEgoRaptor]

For me I'm really going to have to get in depth with EXACTLY what the Warden's will be doing in Inquisition before I ever jumped to a decision on such an important matter. Hopefully it will be something that as the Inquisition itself we can investigate thoroughly.

 

 

 

PS: It's spelt Grey Wardens.  

[Treacherous J Slither]

I'm not attacking the Wardens unless they have forsaken their duties and are Grey Wardens in name only. In which case I will try to return them to their proper path or replace them as necessary.

 

Honestly I don't know why a bunch of nations and organizations haven't raised a vast army and cleared out the Deep Roads by now. Don't wait for a Blight. Hit them where they live. Prevent them from getting their numbers up. Solve the mystery surrounding the archdemons and end this whole thing once and for all.

[TheEgoRaptor]

I'm not attacking the Wardens unless they have forsaken their duties and are Grey Wardens in name only. In which case I will try to return them to their proper path or replace them as necessary.

 

Honestly I don't know why a bunch of nations and organizations haven't raised a vast army and cleared out the Deep Roads by now. Don't wait for a Blight. Hit them where they live. Prevent them from getting their numbers up. Solve the mystery surrounding the archdemons and end this whole thing once and for all.

 

'Dem Deep Roads be being Huge man. Plus the amount of Giant Spiders is probably a little off putting for most soldiers.

[Dayze]

Depends on the character I'm roleplaying and the situation around the wardens at the time.

[Treacherous J Slither]

'Dem Deep Roads be being Huge man. Plus the amount of Giant Spiders is probably a little off putting for most soldiers.

 

I disagree. My Warden and crew got pretty far and there were only about a dozen of them. I'm sure an army with hundreds of thousands of soldiers can do the job. Those spiders wouldn't stand a chance.

[TheEgoRaptor]

The PC of these games are equivalent to an Army when it comes to the punishment they can dish out over a Campaign. Regular soldier's will be annihilated in the Deep Roads.

 

It isn't just Darkspawn and Spiders down there either. There's been a few dragons, demon, golems, damn creepy rock wraiths and a myriad of other Nasties. Number's count for nothing underground. They also can't be 100% certain that if they stumble upon an Old God that it won't wake up groggy and on the wrong side of the proverbial bed.  

[Nukekitten]

I'm not attacking the Wardens unless they have forsaken their duties and are Grey Wardens in name only. In which case I will try to return them to their proper path or replace them as necessary.

Honestly I don't know why a bunch of nations and organizations haven't raised a vast army and cleared out the Deep Roads by now. Don't wait for a Blight. Hit them where they live. Prevent them from getting their numbers up. Solve the mystery surrounding the archdemons and end this whole thing once and for all.

Too much motivation to defect, I imagine. You lot raise an army and go against the Darkspawn, I'll raise an army and go take over your countries while you're away
 

I disagree. My Warden and crew got pretty far and there were only about a dozen of them. I'm sure an army with hundreds of thousands of soldiers can do the job. Those spiders wouldn't stand a chance.

The entire population of the continent may number 25-70 million. Sort of medieval population of Europe estimates. Of which a tiny amount could be active military for a campaign of any significant length.

Before modern medicine, well developed agriculture including fertilisers and mechanical aids, and before relatively cheap logistics, populations were small and armies similarly tiny. The armies in the Battle of Hastings barely broke 10k a piece under the larger estimations.

[TheEgoRaptor]

Too much motivation to defect, I imagine. You lot raise an army and go against the Darkspawn, I'll raise an army and go take over your countries while you're away
 

The entire population of the continent may number 25-70 million. Sort of medieval population of Europe estimates. Of which a tiny amount could be active military for a campaign of any significant length.

Before modern medicine, well developed agriculture including fertilisers and mechanical aids, and before relatively cheap logistics, populations were small and armies similarly tiny. The armies in the Battle of Hastings barely broke 10k a piece under the larger estimations.

 

#RealismFTW

[Karach_Blade]

I have a horrid fear it will be Cerberus 2.0. 

[tipper111]

i would need to know the reason too first instead of just going no i wont. not all grey wardens are good and there could be a reason one must attack them, so until we have a reason i cant decide.

 

side note after watching the E3 demos and knowing what happens to Liliana will you be sending her in to be tortured on your first playthrough or keep her happy and safe ?

[Samahl]

side note after watching the E3 demos and knowing what happens to Liliana will you be sending her in to be tortured on your first playthrough or keep her happy and safe ?

 

I'll handle it in the way that makes the most sense for the character I'm playing as, so... maybe. It depends.

[PillarBiter]

The grey wardens are generally a force of good.

 

But stoopid people's gon' die. 

If they're up to their tomfoolery again... It's cuttin' time.

[KotorEffect3]

Depends on the circumstances.  Given the whole Corypheus thing it is a possibility.

[Burricho]

I doubt we'll have a choice. Kinda seems like 'The grey wardens are being controlled by corypheus, go kill him.'

[NUM13ER]

By the sound of it, hardly anyone in Thedas knows that they have to kill themselves in the process.

Whilst it's unlikely the general populace know a Warden needs to die, the fact every slayer of an Archdemon has died is public knowledge. So they just chalk it up to tragedy and heroic sacrifice.

Though I imagine some people have probably picked up on the pattern that none survive killing it.

[CrazyGobstopper]

If the Wardens present an obstacle to the goals and needs of my Inquisitor(s), then the Wardens shall be promptly brought to heel - and crushed outright, if such action proves to be necessary. The Wardens, however, tend to be formidable and skilled warriors, and so an alliance would be the preferred route if possible.

[andar91]

I can't say yes or no because we have no idea what circumstances surrounded it. Personally, I suspect the Wardens are actually dodgy in some way, or at least some of them, but who can say?

[CrazyRah]

If given the right reason to attack them then yes

[XXIceColdXX]

Id rather not. Unless they possessed or turned bad somehow.