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[ObserverStatus]

Oh yeah, totally. They've had this butt kicking coming for a long time. Frankly, the Gray Wardens make me sick with their winged hats and that creepy blood magic initiation ritual. They think it's funny, murdering heroes like Ser Jory while shielding monsters like Loghain from justice. Taunting The Maker's servants with the phylacteries of conscripted blood mages. They laugh in the face of our Divine by recruiting ancestor worshipping dwarves and idol worshipping elves. During the Amaranthine crisis, they recruited a Dalish Elf terrorist who murders humans indiscriminantly! During the blight they murdered Brother Genitivi just for trying to bring us closer to our prophet. The Wardens are unrepentant little monsters, and my Inquisitor will not suffer monsters.

[Nukekitten]

Whilst it's unlikely the general populace know a Warden needs to die, the fact every slayer of an Archdemon has died is public knowledge. So they just chalk it up to tragedy and heroic sacrifice.

Though I imagine some people have probably picked up on the pattern that none survive killing it.

Eh, maybe - and I imagine some do know. But how many people know the first thing about history today? And information and the time to pursue it's a lot easier to come by for us than it is for Joe or Jane Peasant in medieval-land.

There are after all the same people who were perfectly happy to buy into Loghain's whole hand-wavey-ness about the Grey Wardens and stand aside while he tried to off you.

[Shaftell]

How interesting would it be if we attack the wardens and our previous Warden Commander is the other side repelling our attack? How many would truly choose to do that? Attack the Grey Wardens along with our own warden and killing them all. A high reward scenario, how many of you would attempt this? I wouldn't dare, to the point where my inquisition suffers greatly.

[rapscallioness]

it would depend on the circumstances really. but idk if i could do it if there was a BethanyWarden or CarverWarden standing in front....

 

edit: in fact, i could not if they were there.

[Spicen]

Considering the supposed achievement list some Grey Wardens to be controlled by Corypheus. Not their fault really. Also the achievment list seems to indicate that you must free the wardens from some supposed plight. Corypheus seems to be capable of calling anyone with taint to his side.
And otherwise no. I have the utmost respect for the Grey Wardens. I let Avernus live to carry out his experimentations. I would let them get away even if they do something worse.......as long as it is for the greater good.

[Spicen]

Oh yeah, totally. They've had this butt kicking coming for a long time. Frankly, the Gray Wardens make me sick with their winged hats and that creepy blood magic initiation ritual. They think it's funny, murdering heroes like Ser Jory while shielding monsters like Loghain from justice. Taunting The Maker's servants with the phylacteries of conscripted blood mages. They laugh in the face of our Divine by recruiting ancestor worshipping dwarves and idol worshipping elves. During the Amaranthine crisis, they recruited a Dalish Elf terrorist who murders humans indiscriminantly! During the blight they murdered Brother Genitivi just for trying to bring us closer to our prophet. The Wardens are unrepentant little monsters, and my Inquisitor will not suffer monsters.

Wow you are pretty dense arent you

[Heimdall]

Dependant on the circumstances. Isaala Adaar has no reason to consider them off-limits however.

[Heimdall]

Dependant on the circumstances. Isaala Adaar has no reason to consider them off-limits however.

[ObserverStatus]

Wow you are pretty dense arent you

No, I just really love our prophet.

[cronshaw]

So we've all seen the trailer footage where the gray wardens are attacked and by the looks of it I'm guessing at some point we'll be given a choice of either attacking or not attacking, Unless were force to of course.

 

Anyway my question is in your first play through will you or won't you attack???

 

Personally I won't if given a choice of course, Saying that though I will eventually attack. Maybe after a couple of play through s. But for my first play through if given a choice I won't. But that's just me you may feel differently but after DA:O I don't think I could bring myself to attack those gray dudes and dudettes as they are awesome 

 

The Grey Wardens are too diverse an organization and their binding philosophy too broad to make any determination regarding the motives of specific wardens.

In other words just knowing they are Wardens isn't enough.

Without more information there is no possible way for me to answer that question 

[Nukekitten]

it would depend on the circumstances really. but idk if i could do it if there was a BethanyWarden or CarverWarden standing in front....
 
edit: in fact, i could not if they were there.

If there were a CarverWarden standing at the front, I don't think he'd have time to say anything before he was turned into a walking bomb

(Not my favourite character in all the world.)

[Cainhurst Crow]

Anyone who breaks the rules shall face punishment, so says qunari inquisitor gamagori. 

[Tootles FTW]

I don't feel any loyalty or inherent affection for the Grey Wardens as an institution/group.  In fact, I don't really enjoy that my Wardens are forcefully conscripted to begin with.  

 

I won't attack anyone unless I have reasoning, though, which Inquisition may very well give me.  Not enough information to tell yet.

[In Exile]

 

The Wardens are there only at the behest of the King and must play along if they wish that to remain the case. That very same King suggested waiting for reinforcements but Logain declined. Then spent the rest of the story sabotaging Ferelden in service of his own paranoia and idiocy. 

 

The Wardens are there to stop the Blight, which they can't do if they all die in the Vanguard. GWs offer two things: a veteran presence because they've fought darkspawn, and the ability to kill the archdemon. There's no difference between being in Ferelden but in a position where they cannot reach the archdemon and not being in Ferelden at all. 

Duncan agrees to a plan that makes killing the archdemon impossible. To say that this makes him incompetent is an understatement. 

 

 

He gives his life wounding it badly enough to force it to the ground. You know, so the army can actually attack it. Desperate times, desperate measures after all.

 

His plan goes so far beyond stupid the English language lacks a word to even describe it. He launches himself off a tower to his death. The odds of landing on the dragon are about the same as hitting a bullet with another bullet. 

 

He gave his life in a suicidal charge that had absolutely no hope of success, and that only worked through pure fluke. 

 

 

A handful next to the entire order. Not only that but it's up to you whether or not you kill him. If you don't other Wardens are furious and try hunting him down. Nearly every organisation in Thedas has groups of dissenters and radicals, this isn't exclusive to the GW.

 

We're talking about them being "heroic". Teaming up with their archnemesis in the hope that it will achieve all of its goals and believing that those goals are for the good of all isn't "heroic", particularly when doing this involves a great deal of scheming and betrayal (see the Calling). 

 

They aren't saints and Corypheus needed to be imprisoned. A d*** move of course, but a necessary evil in their minds. Their intention was the exact opposite of freeing him.

 

Except that you're the one saying that they are saints. If you said that they were a group of amoral and generally incompetent warriors who happen to be the only thing that can kill archdemons, we'd have a different debate. 

 

I think it's the whole stopping Blights and killing themselves in the process that gives them that heroic reputation. You know, when they save the world. Tevinter had a slave empire. Not the same at all.

 

Except for the fact that one of them has to make that sacrifice, and no one even knows about it. In fact, the whole problem at Ostagar is that no one knows anything about what GWs actually do, which is what makes them an order of morons. 

[Magdalena11]

No, I wouldn't attack the Grey Wardens, at least as a first option.  There are (at least) 2 archdemons left and there wouldn't be many wardens left if Inqui's forces did attack.  I'd try to find a different way first.

[Lotska]

Are people seriously asking wheater we'll make a decision in a game which isn't even out yet and we know nothing about the decision or of the circumstances surrounding the decision?

 

wow.

Yeah, because it creates conversation and speculation, which are enjoyable. Clearly, or it wouldn't happen. I still have happy flashbacks to a simpler time in school, discussing what might happen in the next Harry Potter books.

 

If there was combat with the Grey Wardens, a factor would have to be whether it was going to kill specific Wardens or have them leaving a country again like with Sophia Dryden. If that's the case, it'll have implications for the country for centuries, and might screw it over in the next Blight.

 

Edit: And if so, I'd try to find a way around attacking them in any way.