What ?! The Dalish boon and the mage boons are retconned ? WTH...
Choice that matter... LOL...Talk about irony... 
So we united a group of people, solved plenty of other people's issues, slew an Old God...and the reward we asked for is neglected...
Nice going Bioware...Kinda reminds me the Rachi Queen in Mass Effect...
The more i keep hearing the more my dislike for having done anything in the past games grows. I feel like im being jerked around. If my Dalish Elf had heard how Alistair had reneged on his promise to give land to my people, it would have meant War. I would have left Amaranthine to have been sacked by intelligent Darkspawn, and waited for the king to have to do something about it with his own armies, and when they were weakened, killed them all and the Darkspawn to with a joint Dalish Elf, City Elf, and Dwarven Golem army.
As someone who took umbrage at how the Magi Boon was rectonned, I know how you feel. Logically, it should be an issue for an elven Inquisitor (in the post-Dalish Boon run), since the Hinterlands should belong to the Dalish. Whether it's properly addressed or absurdly ignored remains to be seen.
Given how the Dalish Boon turns out, I wouldn't have any incentive to play Origins and do a solid run as a Dalish elf; there would be no reason to do so given how our actions become relatively meaningless because of retroactive continuity. The handwave of the Magi Boon made me glad that, at the very least, my Surana Warden left everything behind to be with the woman he loved, entering the Eluvian with his trusted Mabari Hound and never looking back.
To be honest magi boon was ridiculously unrealistic even dg said that if i remember correctly rly you think that chantry would give mages independence?
I think it was there just for rp reasons.
But shame that every other possible change perhaps outside orzammar was undone.
To be honest magi boon was ridiculously unrealistic even dg said that if i remember correctly rly you think that chantry would give mages independence?
I think it was there just for rp reasons.
But shame that every other possible change perhaps outside orzammar was undone.
That was another Bioware developer, Michael Hamilton, who equated the Chantry controlled Circle to a dictatorship. He said, "Since when has any dictatorship ever been turned over by asking politely?"
I'm looking forward to the Cousland boon, the Circle boon and the statue boon.
Isn't the Cousland Boon basically Dragon Age: Awakening?
That was another Bioware developer, Michael Hamilton, who equated the Chantry controlled Circle to a dictatorship. He said, "Since when has any dictatorship ever been turned over by asking politely?"
Possible it could be another dev that said that but i think it was DG also i was talking about different comment but i rather won't find it.
The more i keep hearing the more my dislike for having done anything in the past games grows. I feel like im being jerked around. If my Dalish Elf had heard how Alistair had reneged on his promise to give land to my people, it would have meant War. I would have left Amaranthine to have been sacked by intelligent Darkspawn, and waited for the king to have to do something about it with his own armies, and when they were weakened, killed them all and the Darkspawn to with a joint Dalish Elf, City Elf, and Dwarven Golem army.
The more i keep hearing the more my dislike for having done anything in the past games grows. I feel like im being jerked around. If my Dalish Elf had heard how Alistair had reneged on his promise to give land to my people, it would have meant War. I would have left Amaranthine to have been sacked by intelligent Darkspawn, and waited for the king to have to do something about it with his own armies, and when they were weakened, killed them all and the Darkspawn to with a joint Dalish Elf, City Elf, and Dwarven Golem army.
Feel free to vote with your wallet if you don't like what BioWare's doing.
DG has said on multiple occasions that when they say they want choices to matter, they mean within the context of a single game, and, further, if they feel like they need to retcon something to make a better story they will do so in a heartbeat with no regrets or remorse.
And since they're the writers, they get to decide what qualifies as "a better story" when they're writing it.
Well, he certainly said it once the developers already started doing it; it was pretty much an issue for fans because the handwaves started confusing people at first, and it took Gaider responding to a thread about the mage Warden's boon to explain why the Magi Boon was basically ignored in Awakening and Witch Hunt, when it should've been addressed in the games.
my good people, this is DA, not ME, here your choices are ignored, handwaved and retconned instead of made moot
Even with a weakened army, i doubt Ferelden would have much trouble putting down an attack by a combined elven army, thats if the elves even agreed to doing it.
I'm pretty sure animedreamer was expressing her frustration about how her Dalish Warden's actions were marginalized and how her Hero of Ferelden's boon was handwaved, not trying to get into a nuanced debate about the merits of overthrowing the Ferelden Crown.
Feel free to vote with your wallet if you don't like what BioWare's doing.
DG has said on multiple occasions that when they say they want choices to matter, they mean within the context of a single game, and, further, if they feel like they need to retcon something to make a better story they will do so in a heartbeat with no regrets or remorse.
And since they're the writers, they get to decide what qualifies as "a better story" when they're writing it.
To be honest it seems rather like poor excuse much better and honest would be simple admit it they can't handle import aspect i would argue about "better story" they retconmed anders in da 2 when practically they would create new characters with same or even better effect than simple twist old character personality which as far i renember ended up with death threats toward anders writer not mention that he is another of dozens characters that returned making dragon age look even less plausible.
I wonder why even bother with import and give it so much attention and yet handle it in rather unsatisfying manner when they make our choices into 1 same scenario anyway.
Even with a weakened army, i doubt Ferelden would have much trouble putting down an attack by a combined elven army, thats if the elves even agreed to doing it.
oh i beg to differ, having just fought a blight, lost half of their forces at ostagar, no longer having the Elves backing them, or the Dwarves and their Golems, no Wardens. The greatest general dead, Alistair likely dead at Amaranthine and thus power grab (I didn't marry him to Anora in that playthru) and having just spent whatever forces they had trying to stop the Architects plans, im willing to bet a united Elven uprising with Dwarven support would snap what's left of Ferelden in half. All that fear of Orlai would be justified as I'm sure Celine would be more than happy to take what's left of the throne, and who do you think she'll respect more a army of Elves who have spent centuries preparing for this very moment who promise to keep to themselves in the southern part of Ferelden, or a bunch of two bit banns with no strong leadership, and even less warriors to carry their sorry banners.
I honestly guessed from the get go that it'd be very hard for Ferelden to keep those promises at all, so it being retconned was a given, in my opinion.
my good people, this is DA, not ME, here your choices are ignored, handwaved and retconned instead of made moot
But I'll still get that statue, right?
if not we will build a new one as the Inquisition
I feel I should echo Fast Jimmy and blame the save import for marginalized choices.
I'm pretty sure animedreamer was expressing her frustration about how her Dalish Warden's actions were marginalized and how her Hero of Ferelden's boon was handwaved, not trying to get into a nuanced debate about the merits of overthrowing the Ferelden Crown.
This is true, but after thinking about it I would love the challenge in plotting that war.
Oh please, first if the Dalish elves couldn't even hold to the land they were offered, what makes you think they'll be able to take any?
Second, city elves are a liabilty, not a strenght.
Third, the dwarves rely on the surface for everything that is not made of ore. They have enough enemies without angering humans as well.
Fourth, even if, miraculously, the elves won anything, all that would mean was that Orlais would move their borders East.
Oh please, first if the Dalish elves couldn't even hold to the land they were offered, what makes you think they'll be able to take any?
Second, city elves are a liabilty, not a strenght.
Third, the dwarves rely on the surface for everything that is not made of ore. They have enough enemies without angering humans as well.
Fourth, even if, miraculously, the elves won anything, all that would mean was that Orlais would move their borders East.
No it's the other way around. The Dwarves can and have done fine on their own, it's only a few surfer trader houses that benefit from the surface trade, a fact that is brought up in the assembly, "without the surface trade half our houses would go broke." and this isn't about all the surface this is about Ferelden, much of the Dwarves wealth comes from trade with the Chantry, something that is not being hurt by simply adding the Warden who gave them back their golems, saved their paragon, and put a king on their throne, underestimate just how much they would bend over backwards just for the sake of argument. We have seen they are willing to shut their doors to the surface entirely in one ending.
The City elves are a strength, it is only human oppression that keeps them weak, but had they something to fight for they'd show it, and even without weapons we've seen them still rise up when they got fed up with the injustices. So don't put them down, when they are being offered a chance away from human oppression, and a chance at real self governing. The Dalish have never turned away those who wish to return to the people. Not to mention how many Elves work closely to nobility, Anora herself keeps a handmaiden that is an Elf, as do many noblewomen, direct access to a potential ruler like Anora and Ferelden could again see yet another travesty befall it. City Elves would be the absolute first strike against the remaining human nobility, and after that total chaos.
This is all speculation though more fun than simply cursing world states and so on. They should work on that being a spin off IP in my opinion, Dragon Age: War, pick a faction, and crush whoever their primary enemy is. I'd play that until the end of time.
oh i beg to differ, having just fought a blight, lost half of their forces at ostagar, no longer having the Elves backing them, or the Dwarves and their Golems, no Wardens. The greatest general dead, Alistair likely dead at Amaranthine and thus power grab (I didn't marry him to Anora in that playthru) and having just spent whatever forces they had trying to stop the Architects plans, im willing to bet a united Elven uprising with Dwarven support would snap what's left of Ferelden in half. All that fear of Orlai would be justified as I'm sure Celine would be more than happy to take what's left of the throne, and who do you think she'll respect more a army of Elves who have spent centuries preparing for this very moment who promise to keep to themselves in the southern part of Ferelden, or a bunch of two bit banns with no strong leadership, and even less warriors to carry their sorry banners.
No it's the other way around. The Dwarves can and have done fine on their own, it's only a few surfer trader houses that benefit from the surface trade, a fact that is brought up in the assembly, "without the surface trade half our houses would go broke." and this isn't about all the surface this is about Ferelden, much of the Dwarves wealth comes from trade with the Chantry, something that is not being hurt by simply adding the Warden who gave them back their golems, saved their paragon, and put a king on their throne, underestimate just how much they would bend over backwards just for the sake of argument. We have seen they are willing to shut their doors to the surface entirely in one ending.
The City elves are a strength, it is only human oppression that keeps them weak, but had they something to fight for they'd show it, and even without weapons we've seen them still rise up when they got fed up with the injustices. So don't put them down, when they are being offered a chance away from human oppression, and a chance at real self governing. The Dalish have never turned away those who wish to return to the people. Not to mention how many Elves work closely to nobility, Anora herself keeps a handmaiden that is an Elf, as do many noblewomen, direct access to a potential ruler like Anora and Ferelden could again see yet another travesty befall it. City Elves would be the absolute first strike against the remaining human nobility, and after that total chaos.
This is all speculation though more fun than simply cursing world states and so on. They should work on that being a spin off IP in my opinion, Dragon Age: War, pick a faction, and crush whoever their primary enemy is. I'd play that until the end of time.
I don't even know where to begin with this
I don't even know where to begin with this
some people just want to watch the world burn.........armed with only a single match they wont get far though so all is well
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