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I didn't, but it's clear that I won't be able to convince you. I still don't understand how somebody can accept something in real life, but not in a fantasy world.
It's probably for the best simply to ignore them. TheDarkKnightReturns had the right idea. Let's just focus on the topic at hand; I don't think it's fair to Gervaise to do anything else.
and the Dalish take pride in their heritage of violence, hatred, and isolation
The Dalish need to stop playing the victim and get off those crosses.
Seriously. What am I suppose to nail these templars to now?
Because dislike of elves is dislike of a fiction trope. Disliking elves is just like disliking goblins, jedi, or superheros. It is in no way the equivalent to real world prejudice.
What constitutes 'equal representation'? Or even a faction?
Does each Dalish clan and each alienage get a vote? That would run into a problem if there are more small tribes than big alienages.
Do the Dalish and the City Elves each collectively get X votes? If the City Elves significantly outnumber the Dalish in population, that wouldn't be proportionally fair to the city elves.
Would significant groups of importance like, say, Briala's eluvian faction get a vote? How about an alliance of elven merchants who are key bankrollers of the project?
What would be the rules against sub-dividing to claim more seats as more factions that are simply aligned?
The three factions are so: City Elves, Dalish Elves, and Tevinter Elves, since those three groups have lived apart for a long enough period of time to have developed their own cultures. I'd include the Qunari Elves, but they wouldn't really be interested in this new homeland since they have found their place in the Qun.
As for votes, each faction gets equal say to avoid one culture gaining dominance over the others. Decisions could be met by a majority vote.
Small factions like Briala would be more like lobbyists.
What constitutes abuse? The Dalish religion/culture regularly compares the Human culture to a disease, and the ancient Dales appears to have extended that belief to Andrastianism as well. In a zero-sum scenario in the existence of the other is considered a harm, what gives?
Your example would be considered an abuse since it is insinuating the elves that support that culture that is being insulted are detrimental to the society.
Basically the stance will be a "live and let live" type scenario, as in you can believe whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt others. By hurt, I mean physical as in mugging them, mental as in insulting them, or spiritual as in forceful conversions.
Wouldn't a key prejudice be the practical disenfranchisement of non-elves, since you reserved representation for your leadership council to elven factions?
Also, what's the policy towards half-blood elves? Do they count as elves, or humans?
That's a good point about non-elves. If they have significant numbers in the nation, they get a seat in the government as well. Below that they would be like the lobbyists. And predjudice against them would be illegal as much as it is to other elven factions.
As for elf-bloods, if they identify as elves they are recognized as such.
Well, that's easy. Even the Dales had diplomati and economic relations, even if that relationship was 'none, or else.'
What kind, with who, and what are the goals of foreign policy?
Peaceful preferably, with at least the neighboring nations if not all, and the goals are the continuation and prosperity of the nation and those who call it home.
Black pride is a thing too.
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It's not equivalent, but it has similarities, which I've demonstrated. I'm legitimately perplexed about how people can detach from the real world so readily.
because this is fiction, the elves are not a stand in for gays or lesbians, they are simply elves
the DA setting is not allegorical or metaphorical
It's not equivalent, but it has similarities, which I've demonstrated. I'm legitimately perplexed about how people can detach from the real world so readily.
Using Logic mostly.
because this is fiction, the elves are not a stand in for gays or lesbians, they are simply elves
the DA setting is not allegorical or metaphorical
Pretty sure the devs would have stated that, if they were going for it.
They never have.
let's see i would have the elfs just act like the humans do. i mean it is working for the humans and dwarves. the elfs have suffered enough so it's time for change. still can have the old gods, but really just build, keep traditions the best i can, and simply kill all those who stand in our way.
let's see i would have the elfs just act like the humans do. i mean it is working for the humans and dwarves. the elfs have suffered enough so it's time for change. still can have the old gods, but really just build, keep traditions the best i can, and simply kill all those who stand in our way.
pfft their gods don't hold a candle to the real old gods
Pretty sure the devs would have stated that, if they were going for it.
They never have.
Even if they were going for it, it may ring false. Quarians were supposed to be space jews. It's a ****** poor analogy at very best.
The fact is, people don't like Dalish because they're murdering bigot scumbags who release demons and hell-mirrors in their space time. If you're comparing the Dalish to a group that doesn't very commonly murder people, then your analogy is a failure.
pfft their gods don't hold a candle to the real old gods
Well the Creators are supposed to be all still alive so... 
Well the Creators are supposed to be all still alive so...
a god we can all get behind, for hide and go seek
pfft their gods don't hold a candle to the real old gods
hmmmm going to need a bigger candle then. * looks on facebook for tips on how to order a giant candle the size of the old gods*
Well the Creators are supposed to be all still alive so...
Yes, but they're sealed in can.
Yes, but they're sealed in can.
Well yeah, but 30% of the Old Gods are also sealed in underground cans. The rest are dead.
the DA setting is not allegorical or metaphorical
But 30% of the Old Gods are also sealed in underground cans. The rest are dead.
Probably why the Maker decided to leave. He saw that God-Canning was taking off in Thedas and decided to take a vacation.
Actually, they were initially inspired by Jewish people.
You don't actually seem interested in discussing how the elves are totally unique creatures who don't resemble real life oppressed groups in any way, so it seems fruitless to continue, at any rate.
any group is going to resemble any number of other groups, I can sit here and talk about how the hobbits in LotR are actually scots, its bound to happen in fiction, the issue is whether it is intentional.
And based on that link's own words "After years of development, however, the connections to those initial inspirations are tenuous at best" it seems pointless to really focus on them
Probably why the Maker decided to leave. He saw that God-Canning was taking off in Thedas and decided to take a vacation.
The Maker is the Maker after all, he probably foresaw it.
Actually, they were initially inspired by Jewish people.
You don't actually seem interested in discussing how the elves are totally unique creatures who don't resemble real life oppressed groups in any way, so it seems fruitless to continue, at any rate.
what groups would those be homeless people?
Probably why the Maker decided to leave. He saw that God-Canning was taking off in Thedas and decided to take a vacation.
Well, according to legend, the Maker did most of the canning himself.
any group is going to resemble any number of other groups, I can sit here and talk about how the hobbits in LotR are actually scots, its bound to happen in fiction, the issue is whether it is intentional.
And based on that link's own words "After years of development, however, the connections to those initial inspirations are tenuous at best" it seems pointless to really focus on them
Well, according to legend, the Maker did most of the canning himself.
And then left before someone could can him. If that's not divine foresight, I don't know what is.
And then left before someone could can him. If that's not divine foresight, I don't know what is.
Now there's a god I could vote for!
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