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[Battlemaster1313]

It's easy to say you would or wouldn't whilst playing the game, but if you were actually in that situation where you could either save or condemn a species at the risk of your own, would you cure it? I would like to think I would but pressure changes people

[KaiserShep]

Under most circumstances, absolutely not. There would have to be something I could consider to be beneficial to myself as well as my own species in order for me to cure it, because if I can only perceive it as a risk, then I would leave them with it indefinitely.

[MissMayhem96]

I really don't know, I agree with KaiserShep.

 

I feel like if Wreav was in charge I wouldn't, even with Eve alive. Since he says he is going to war after the Genophage is cured.

[justafan]

I justify curing the genophage at the time because Shepard has no clue how long the reaper war will go on, and if it does turn out to be another centuries long conflict like it was with the Protheans, the Krogan numbers could help buy time, as they proved during the Rachni wars.  In such a scenario, I would cure the genophage every time.

 

Now, were Shepard to stubble upon Saren's cure in ME1 before knowing the full extent of the reaper threat?  I would hold on to that cure and not tell anybody.  The Krogan are simply too dangerous to be left unchecked unless there is a greater threat to deal with.

[Daemul]

I justify curing the genophage at the time because Shepard has no clue how long the reaper war will go on, and if it does turn out to be another centuries long conflict like it was with the Protheans, the Krogan numbers could help buy time, as they proved during the Rachni wars. In such a scenario, I would cure the genophage every time.

The problem is the Krogan are infantry, whilst the Reapers are ships, even with large numbers the Krogan would be completely useless except against Reaper ground troops, of which the Reapers have an unlimited amount of due to indoctrination. Not to mention, you also need to rely on the Reapers allowing the first wave of Krogan infants to reach maturity and receiving training, instead of them just glassing Tuchunka.

[themikefest]

No.

 

I've cured it with both Wreav and Wrex in charge only to see what happens in the game.

[ELMIKE2K10]

The Krogan while primarily infantry do also have dreadnaughts.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

The Krogan while primarily infantry do also have dreadnaughts.

No.... they don't.

They absolutely do not have any dreadnoughts whatsoever. 

[ELMIKE2K10]

In every time I played ME3, if Wrex is alive, I cure the genophage. Wrex along with the female Krogan Eve want to unite the Krogan but for their species to evolve into something beyond being just warriors and mercenaries. If Wrex dies in ME1, the Krogan leading the clans is his more violent, and power hungry brother Wreave who has intentions to go to war after the Reaper threat and for that, I didn't cure the genophage.   

[Excella Gionne]

The Krogan while primarily infantry do also have dreadnaughts.

No, they don't. If they did, it would have been shot down. Krogans are demilitarized, hence, their part of space is called Krogan DMZ.

[Excella Gionne]

Well, I can honestly say I couldn't care for another Genophage thread considering we had a swarm of it a few months back.

 

To OP: I don't want to get into details, if you want them you can check up on the threads that were made 2-3 months ago. I cure every time(except for the intentional screwed up playthroughs I do), and since Bakara is always alive, I cure it with both Wrex and Bakara alive. Since it is canon that under the rule of Wrex(regardless of Bakara alive or not)the krogans do in fact live in peace and among the other species after the war. You could argue about speculations, but because EC exists and is made headcanon to the ME trilogy, speculation is ruled out. For the original endings, yes, you could argue about anything after the war and what not.

[Dabrikishaw]

If Wrex and/or Eve are alive, Yes.

[ImaginaryMatter]

No. As Wrex said back in ME1, it's not the Genophage that is killing the Krogan but rather their own nature. I would leave it up to the Krogan to decided whether to surpass their savage instincts... or succumb to it.

[Massa FX]

Based on the circumstances of the game if Wrex is alive in ME3, yes. I will cure the genophage.  I think Wrex and Eve will bring change to the Krogan (they already have) and their past will not be repeated.

 

If Wrex is dead, no. I would let the Krogan continue as they are. I'd deceive them. BAD me.

[zestalyn]

I would, because
1. I need Palaven's help
2. Want to stick to my word aka no sabotage
3. Without it cured, and not knowing how long the war will go on, the krogans would be wiped out way too fast. "Too many krograns" is a small price to pay if it means you can have alot more dead Reapers.
4. "Too many krogans" is a problem I'll deal with after the war. When there's a will, there's a way. 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Maelon's data and Eve alive? With Wrex? Yes.

 

No Maelon's data Eve dead with Wreav? No. We fake it.

[BurningBlood]

With both Wrex and Eve, maybe.  Otherwise, never.

 

The problem is how two individuals are supposed to change, in a few decades, millenia of social and biological conditioning for an entire species.

 

Yes, Wrex and Eve are both very influential.  And yes, with the genophage cured the nihilism it instilled in the krogans' cultural psyche could be replaced with hope.  However, as pointed out by Wrex and Eve and Mordin, the krogan penchant for mass destruction (and self-destruction) was alive and well long before they were uplifted by the salarians.

 

I want very much to believe they could pull it off, but so far I haven't been able to convince myself.

[BeastSaver]

Normally, I'd say cure the genophage if Wrex is alive, always sabotage for Wreave. I'm doing a renegade ME3 play-through (with Genesis 2) where I've betrayed Wrex and Eve is dead (the only ME2 companions alive are Miranda and Garrus). I also plan to let the Quarians die. I know I can go online to see what happens, but it's not the same thing as playing it out. It was a very difficult thing for me to do (typically more paragon), even though it's just a video game.

[AlanC9]

In the short term, the krogan are no big threat. As EDI says, no ships. And no ability to build a huge fleet anytime soon, since they don't have much industrial infrastructure. Long-term containment is somebody else's problem.

If not for these facts, I'd sign on with KaiserShep's reasoning.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

As you've worded it, you make it seem like you mean just any random species, and that my own people are at risk by the cure.

 

If that were the case, my instincts would tell me no, I'm not going to sacrifice a species (my species) that is thriving for the sake of a species that obviously has enough issues to warrant the deployment of something like the genophage in the first place. 

 

Even if my own species wasn't at risk, I'd still be heavily weighing my options and looking at what I was doing and who I was doing it too. If it was the Krogan, for example, hell no, I wouldn't cure the genophage ever. Honestly, I think the galaxy is a better place with the Krogan gone. I have absolutely zero faith in either Wrex or Eve to improve Krogan society in any meaningful way. The sole reason I ever cure the genophage is for the war effort, and I'd plan on re-instituting it (or worse) once the Reapers over.

 

Slag the planet from orbit and slam an asteroid into the DMZ's relay. End any memory of the Krogan.

[RanetheViking]

Yes I would keep my word to my bro Wrex. With Wreav probably not.

 

But if the Krogan start any crap after the war we''l just have to put them down for good.

Besides Shepard will need something to do after the rippah's are destroyed.  .. I mean until the Salarians screw up the Yahg uplift that is.

 

Because a soldier needs something to do and "war never changes".

[Obadiah]

I always cure the Genophage, probably always will.

[dgcatanisiri]

Depends on the situation. During the Reaper War, yes, absolutely - we need the krogan on board and fighting the Reapers. We need every hand on deck, and that still might be enough. A single additional person on the battlefield could tip things.

 

Without the Reaper War... Honestly, I would be seriously conflicted. Yes, it's krogan nature that's killing the species more than the genophage itself - Wrex says they wouldn't even stop killing each other for a single generation to just focus on repopulation. At the same time, though... This is still in large part the Council and the salarians fault. They advanced the krogan ahead of what they were really capable of and that genie wasn't going back into the bottle. I don't like the concept of engaging in genocide, which is what the Council was more than willing to stand by and let happen to the krogan. So I think there's a responsibility to help them, even if they're saying that they're not interested. Maybe it's not in curing the genophage (though frankly, I still think that was a war crime level action that shouldn't have been approved and should have seen arrests for), but in doing something to help them.

[KaiserShep]

Slag the planet from orbit and slam an asteroid into the DMZ's relay. End any memory of the Krogan.

 

Destroying the relay on a whim doesn't really seem like a good idea. I don't think the krogan even have the capacity to be such a threat that wiping out an entire star system and its relay would even be necessary. Besides, no doubt the salarians, asari and turians have countless laws regarding the relays. Should they discover who was responsible, there would be nothing the guilty party could do about it if they decided to take action. The only reason Shepard gets away with anything is because of the reaper invasion. Had the war simply ended before it began, Shepard would probably have stayed in prison forever.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

Destroying the relay on a whim doesn't really seem like a good idea. I don't think the krogan even have the capacity to be such a threat that wiping out an entire star system and its relay would even be necessary. Besides, no doubt the salarians, asari and turians have countless laws regarding the relays. Should they discover who was responsible, there would be nothing the guilty party could do about it if they decided to take action. The only reason Shepard gets away with anything is because of the reaper invasion. Had the war simply ended before it began, Shepard would probably have stayed in prison forever.

 

Who says that post-war, I'd be listening to any laws the Asari, Salarians, and Turians come up with? If you don't remember, I'm the shadow hand behind the government. I can do whatever I damn well please. That doesn't mean that I will, but I can freely do just about anything without fear of reprisal. The galaxy needs more individuals with the genius and skill to push it forward.

 

And yes, that's exactly why I'm doing what I will do. I have no doubt that the Council doesn't want their dirty laundry aired. But now that I'm out, we're doing things differently.