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#176
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If more people are interested in making submissions with a variety of weapons I might consider remaking it with an extra five or ten slots per character, and maintaining the nine reegar limit currently on submissions. That's a pretty big "if", though; I feel in all honesty that with so few submissions coming in these days and the dwindling playerbase, it may be a bit pointless. 

 

My main question is this: is there anyone out there who would be encouraged to make more submissions, if I did remake the thread with more slots per character?



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If more people are interested in making submissions with a variety of weapons I might consider remaking it with an extra five or ten slots per character, and maintaining the nine reegar limit currently on submissions. That's a pretty big "if", though; I feel in all honesty that with so few submissions coming in these days and the dwindling playerbase, it may be a bit pointless. 

 

My main question is this: is there anyone out there who would be encouraged to make more submissions, if I did remake the thread with more slots per character?

Hell I'm thinking about it as is but my RL is eating into my MP time. If there is more spots I definitely think it would encourage a little more participation, console users would be at a disadvantage because of objectives and if you put in the PC Reegar damage as well, it's a steep hill to climb to even attempt to touch some of those times.

 

I'll try some that don't have slots filled yet though and try to get a decent time. Sub thirty is good for me personally though. 



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If more people are interested in making submissions with a variety of weapons I might consider remaking it with an extra five or ten slots per character, and maintaining the nine reegar limit currently on submissions. That's a pretty big "if", though; I feel in all honesty that with so few submissions coming in these days and the dwindling playerbase, it may be a bit pointless. 

You're probably right to question whether it'd be worthwhile to do all that at this point. Reegar is blech, but I'd be more inclined to use that as impetus to try to beat some of the existing times in the current HoF than asking you to create a new/expanded HoF just to include non-Reegar runs. 



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I might consider making submissions, with expanded slots it means I do not have to stand in the basement on Glacier with the Arc Pistol or Reegar. I do like seeing my name in lists. 

 

Nevermind, gold sucks and I am butthurt that Atlases do not spawn in pairs for me, ever. 



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All this talk about reegar got me curious. 

The present HoF has 87 reegar entries spread across 25 characters (it's actually 91 across 26, but the 4 quarksman solos used reegar because of a themed solo requirement and it was not used in the solo, atleast not enough to make it critical).

 

We have 59 characters with 565 entries. Reegar has the most number of entries, but arc pistol is not far behind - it has 86. Arc pistol is spread across 32 characters, 7 more than reegar.

 

And out of those 87 reegar solos, 52 have been spread across 8 characters. And most of them (the first six) are the usual suspects - Kroguard (x7), batguard (x9), geth trooper (x8), Krosol (x5), batsol (x8), Juggernaut (x5), Vorcha hunter (x5), Krosent (x5). 

 

I am no reegar fan but banning the weapon or restricting it just because it is absurdly OP or that BSN hates it is not a good reason. Reegar is the only weapon to have a restriction at the moment - max 9 entries for a particular character. 

 

I would prefer things to stay as it is in terms of restrictions on the weapons. 


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To be honest, while the lack of variety is an issue, I personally do not want to create a new thread and do not want to change the rules (or retroactively invalidate any solos already submitted) and would not do so unless many people requested. Based on the input, and on the fact that this is a pretty low traffic thread, I don't feel as if there is a need to make changes at this time. 

 

There is one thing I was considering. Currently, six different weapons (Reegar, Arc, Acolyte, Venom, Wraith, Talon) account for nearly 70%  of submissions.  There is some room to expand the "miscellaneous section" in the third post with a new category or two, I could always add a section for speedrun videos/screencaps where any kits is allowed but the most commonly used weapons are banned. As with other categories in the third post, I probably wouldn't just limit it to 10 entries. 

 

I think such a category could potentially be interesting and inject a bit of variety, although honestly I don't think many people are around to make submissions. There are similar categories in Hendrix's Miscellaneous Solo Hall of Fame, but with more restrictions (such as cyclonics banned, only common weapons, no glacier etc). 

 

If there is interest in such a thing, I might make that addition. Otherwise, will probably just leave everything as is. 


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Currently, six different weapons (Reegar, Arc, Acolyte, Venom, Wraith, Talon) account for nearly 70%  of submissions.

 

Shocking revelation bois - people prefer to use effective guns!


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Shocking revelation bois - people prefer to use effective guns!

 

I know that isn't exactly breaking news. I'm just offering an alternative to the perceived lack of variety of submissions that doesn't include changing rules or making a new thread. 



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Currently, six different weapons (Reegar, Arc, Acolyte, Venom, Wraith, Talon) account for nearly 70%  of submissions.

 

It might be fun (? or not) to figure out what the least used Rare guns are and encourage people to do solos with those.

 

I'm not suggesting "hurr durr do some Avenger solos... or... how about Shuriken solos..." because that would just be tedious and annoying.

 

But something like Argus? GPS? Widow? Carnifex? i.e. the guns that 'normal' people actually have.

 

If I didn't completely suck at solo-ing I would do this myself....



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It might be fun (? or not) to figure out what the least used Rare guns are and encourage people to do solos with those.

 

I'm not suggesting "hurr durr do some Avenger solos... or... how about Shuriken solos..." because that would just be tedious and annoying.

 

But something like Argus? GPS? Widow? Carnifex? i.e. the guns that 'normal' people actually have.

 

If I didn't completely suck at solo-ing I would do this myself....

 

Trouble is most of those unlisted guns suck a big one vs bosses, which makes soloing with them extremely tedious for several minutes at a time.



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I find most of the rare weapons and some of the uncommons to be pretty decent against gold bosses, and most of them are more fun even to solo with than the most "frequent offenders" in this thread.  A category for those might be interesting, I would probably try to make some submissions.

 

I was going to say no URs allowed, but then I realized that doesn't exclude Arc/Reegar/Acolyte. 

 

IMO only some of the real trash like Predator, Shuriken, Vindicator etc. are actually tedious and ineffective on gold. 



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I just checked the guns again and 14/24 gold Guns are frankly crap vs bosses. Some are exceptional vs mooks.

 

Uncommons only have Mattock and possibly Eviscerator as their saving grace.



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19:33 | Adas Anti-Synthetic Rifle | White | Geth | PC | Areksto 

 

I wanted to do something to replace that screenshot of mine. The video is still processing but will be there eventually I guess. 


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-----

 

On another note, here's TurretTurian Saboteur with Saber derping around on White because I think the archive needs moar saber, even if it is just me missing shots with it: 

 

23:37 | 10 WS | Saber | White | Geth | PC | TheTechnoTurian 

 

I will actually update this evening or tomorrow. 

 

Very impressive. Could you post the build? Also the build of your geth trooper + wraith solo.

 

1, I think it would be nice to post builds as well.

 

2, I do not hink that reegar solos should be banned. Yes it is over abundant with certain kits (mostly the tanky ones with incediary cheese, like krogans, batarians, flamer trooper) but other kits have other weapons over represented like the acolyte+hurricane combo or the venom. Would you like to ban them as well?



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If more people are interested in making submissions with a variety of weapons I might consider remaking it with an extra five or ten slots per character, and maintaining the nine reegar limit currently on submissions. That's a pretty big "if", though; I feel in all honesty that with so few submissions coming in these days and the dwindling playerbase, it may be a bit pointless. 

 

My main question is this: is there anyone out there who would be encouraged to make more submissions, if I did remake the thread with more slots per character?

 

To be honest, I'm only submitting because there where free slots. Because:

 

I do like seeing my name in lists.

 

 

I'm fully aware that if you skilled solo'ers keep submitting there's little chance for me to get a place in the HOF. On the other hand I had fun doing the solos and will have fun, trying to do some more. And if there are more slots available...



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Also what video capture software you guys/grills using?



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@Glorious Turian Master Race, 

 

Build for Saboteur: http://kalence.drupa...!23N51334!5EFA5

 

Build for Wraith: http://kalence.drupa...!23F5..64!DA8B3

 

I've used a lot of programs for recording. Some of the really ancient solos of mine (with 2013 dates, I'm not sure there are too many of those left in this HoF as I've tried to prune them all out) used Fraps, but that had a heavy load on my system (it actually caused frame rate stuttering in game at times) and was really prone to recording corrupted stuff. 

 

For most everything else including the recent stuff I've used MSI Afterburner. I like it much better than Fraps, it can record at HD without causing any performance issues. I do have a pretty old PC so this is always a concern. 


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Shocking revelation bois - people prefer to use effective guns!

 

I think there's an inherent problem in the concept of the hall of fame in that the most important factor is always time. This causes players to take the path of least resistance to get there by choosing an appropriate map, faction, weapons, amps and where possible rigging the objectives to be the easier ones where they can break the game mechanics to make them easy and fast.

 

So it's not that surprising that those in the hall of fame end up doing the same thing.



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I think there's an inherent problem in the concept of the hall of fame in that the most important factor is always time.

Because the thread is about 'speedruns'. This thread is all about quick times. It's not a problem, it's the purpose of this thread. There was a time when the goal was to sub-20 with every character and then it changed to sub-20 without reegar. I think* that's the whole reason why this thread started in the first place (Hendrix started it, and Techno just took over).

 

I do understand where you are coming from though. Everyone, including myself would like to see the results of solos with different weapons and different maps etc. That'd require a new thread altogether. At this point, I doubt if there is anyone willing to take over that task. And even if they did, I am not sure of the participation.

 

And if you do want to compare solos without these 'easy way out' techniques like obj. modding, OP guns, glacier/cerb etc, I'd suggest you take a look at the Themed Challenge Thread. It comes very close - there are challenges with every single character and almost every single weapon incl. the likes of shuriken, predator, etc. There are several ridiculously quick times on there too - like sub-20 on hydra, ghost etc. It's not exactly the same but it comes close.

 

* I wasn't on BSN when Hendrix first started the thread, but based on the discussions that followed, I have arrived at the said conclusion.


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Tangentially related, but I'd like to say that this thread, the Themed Challenge thread, the Plat. solos thread -- watching all these videos immensely helped me 'git gud' at this game.

 

Nowhere near as good as the players posting the videos, but much good-er than I was before.

 

So props to y'all for taking the time to do the solos, post the videos, and maintain the threads! :lol:


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Also what video capture software you guys/grills using?

 

 

I've used a lot of programs for recording. Some of the really ancient solos of mine (with 2013 dates, I'm not sure there are too many of those left in this HoF as I've tried to prune them all out) used Fraps, but that had a heavy load on my system (it actually caused frame rate stuttering in game at times) and was really prone to recording corrupted stuff. 

 

For most everything else including the recent stuff I've used MSI Afterburner. I like it much better than Fraps, it can record at HD without causing any performance issues. I do have a pretty old PC so this is always a concern. 

I use ShadowPlay because I have a recent enough nVidia card that makes use of it. Barring that option I agree with what TechnoTurian has mentioned. Afterburner proved to be less taxing vs. FRAPS.

 

One thing most people can do to make their captures even more impressive is use something like SweetFX. Here's a video I captured a while back with my tweaked SweetFX in use. Note the colors. Bright and vivid. This will hit frame rates slightly when in use but I have a 2560x1440 monitor so it's already under a bit of strain to begin with. 1920x1080 shouldn't take as much of hit (or any) unless you have a very low powered GPU. When SFX is in use it's like you cleaned a dirty window and can finally see what you were meant to see all along.

 

If anyone wants to try this I've created a zip with the files here: http://1drv.ms/1JcmFyf

 

There is nothing sinister here. It's just a few files that make your game look really nice. Extract to: C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\Mass Effect 3\Binaries\Win32

 

Change drive letter accordingly if you have installed it elsewhere. The read me is worth looking into if you wish to adjust it further. That is done in the SweetFX_settings.ini file. Again, see the read me file for instructions on that. If you do not like what you see or it is proving to be too much of a burden on your frame rate simply close the game and delete the 9 included files (see read me if you are unsure of which ones) plus the log.log file that is generated after first run from the games binary folder (see above). That's it. No uninstall necessary since you didn't install anything to begin with.

 

It is instantly noticeable when you get to the 'Press any key to continue' screen because at that point it is not a cutscene-like video. To toggle SFX just tap the scroll lock key and you can see what it is like with and without it in use. This works in all the games I play - YMMV. I'm not sure this is worth attempting on a laptop unless it is a purpose built gaming type or high end model.

 

The only reason I'm cluttering up this thread is I like the videos here but they all seem a little murky after being spoiled by what I'm seeing day to day in the game. By the way, this also makes the SP gorgeous. I sometimes find myself looking at stuff instead of, you know, getting on with the game.

 

EDIT:

 

I may have dorked up the folder structure in the link above. If that one doesn't produce results then delete those files and extract this directory to the same location instead. It's been a while since I added that so I plead befuddled old man syndrome.

 

http://1drv.ms/1EwkYKR


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#197
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I use something similar when I play SP. I'm not at my computer so I don't know what it's even called, but it essentially makes the colors and shading much, much better and adjustable. It's kind of a drain on my framerate to record though so I don't use it while making videos. 

 

I may give this a try too, probably just if I play SP again, to see how it compares to what I have.  Having played SP once with a tool for shaders/color adjustment now the game just looks too bland without it. 



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They do make the game very nice to look at.

 

Frame rates are really only affected on mid to low tier GPUs with higher resolutions. I just enabled the frame counter in ShadowPlay and was keeping an eye on it in a couple of random matches. Only when there's a ton of activity going on does it dip just a bit. Normally it stays pegged at 60FPS even with the above enabled and at the resolution I play at. My GPU isn't exactly a slouch however so it's probably best to experiment for yourself.

 

Another way to kind of ease recording frame rate drops is to use a separate drive instead of the main drive if you have one available. It isn't perfect but it helps.



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@Glorious Turian Master Race, 

 

 For most everything else including the recent stuff I've used MSI Afterburner. I like it much better than Fraps, it can record at HD without causing any performance issues. I do have a pretty old PC so this is always a concern. 

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I downloaded it and it works fine. I even recorded my first Turian Soldier solo. Unfortunately it is far from HOF material. I needed 56 mins and every single medigel ops pack, termal clip, cobra missile and a good amount of luck to finish it :) TBH looking back at the build and loadout everything was suboptimal (I had only level 2 pistol rails, used cryo ammo, etc). Next one will be faster ;)


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Updated the thread. New rule, I am going to take this thread in a new direction and delete everything that isn't a turian  and will rename this the turian Solo hall of Fame   edit; my legal team advised against doing this 

 

Open spots!  :wizard:

 

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37:31 | Wraith | Vancouver | Cerberus | Xbox | Kaicel

 

Edit: Actually, nevermind. You can ignore my entry lol. These 3 entries are better and should be posted (if they want it on the list). And I don't want to bump off unknownmerc42's 10WS.

 

 

I ignored yours as requested, but just FYI there is still an empty slot for Shadow, if you'd like me to put it in?